41 replies to this topic

[Thundersports]

I'm seeing Keith in a couple of days if anyone has any questions on his racing days to put to him post them here i'll ask him and post them back here.

[Bjorn Kjer]

Guess what ? TRANSPORTERS , thanks!

[Thundersports]

Give me a clue about what the above means?

[sterling49]

What memories does he have of dices with Warren Pearce in their lovely E-Types and did he enjoy racing Alan Fraser's Imp? In both instances I enjoyed spectating at Brands whilst this took place

...oh, and who were Molash Racing Partnership? I went through Molash in Kent the other day, any connection?


Great memories Keith!


Sterling

[Andrew Kitson]

Is it true that Keith fell out with Alan Fraser when he was driving the F5000 Lola T142 (the car that appeared on the 'Salvage Squad' programme a few years ago), because his feet were often scorched on the pedals which were too hot, a problem Keith apparantly asked to be rectified many times and nothing was done about it and secondly, could he swim when he went in the Mallory lake!? A great driver, enjoyed watching him many times.

[sterling49]

OT, I bet you were the annoying kid that always pinched my spot at the fence Andy.....we must have rubbed shoilders many a time


Sterling

[Andrew Kitson]

I often used to sit in what my Dad called the 'mechanic's stand', but the drivers called it the 'driver's stand'! You know the one, the small wooden open stand right next to the Brands tunnel ( top straight side )with the Shell oil can advert on it. Otherwise I was around the Paddock Hill bend area somewhere, not too far away incase the old man wanted me to polish the car again for the zillionth time or go and fetch something!

[sterling49]

Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
I often used to sit in what my Dad called the 'mechanic's stand', but the drivers called it the 'driver's stand'! You know the one, the small wooden open stand right next to the Brands tunnel ( top straight side )with the Shell oil can advert on it. Otherwise I was around the Paddock Hill bend area somewhere, not too far away incase the old man wanted me to polish the car again for the zillionth time or go and fetch something!

I used to stand by the fence looking down the tunnel and feel the vibrations and smell the exhausts.....at a young age so infectious and exciting! I was at Paddock when Andrea de Ademich (sp) crashed his Ferrari into the marshalls post there was always a lot happening there!!!

[Bjorn Kjer]

Hi , I thought you knew me ! I am searching for infos and pictures of transporters , and KH rced for Alan Fraser , then himsewlf , and then with sponsors as I recall . So I am very interested in what cars were used to take his cars to the tracks . Perhaps the Alan Fraser one was the one he used for the Sunbeam Tigers ? Any info or pictures (also part pictures). Thank you for trying.

[donharper]

I guess he remembers the Australian part of the Tasman Series , I think 1978 before I went to England.
He ended up in Jon Davisons Lola for Sandown. I worked for Chris Featherstone in that. Visited Keith when I was working in England in 1978/79.

[Thundersports]

Will be seeing Keith Friday 3/8/07 last chance for questions.........

[MCS]

I'd be interested to hear his recollection of the 1971 F5000 Mallory Park crash when he ended up in the lake!

How many different F5000 cars did he race? Off the top of my head I can think of Lola T142, McLaren M10B, Chevron B24, Trojan T101, Trojan T102, Lola T400 and Lola T332. Which was his favourite and why?

Similarly, which race does he rate as his best and which circuit was his favourite?

Hope he's in good health and spirits - look forward to hearing back from you Thundersport.

[Alan Cox]

Who remembers Keith racing in the (thankfully) short-lived series for Ford P100 pick-ups? What's more, does Keith remember it?

[sterling49]

Originally posted by Thundersport
I'm seeing Keith in a couple of days if anyone has any questions on his racing days to put to him post them here i'll ask him and post them back here.

Any feedback from Keith yet?

[Thundersports]

Sorry for the delay work has been very busy!

Sterling49
The Lotus 47 and E-type were owned by Molash racing partnership from Molash near Faversham Kent. The dices with Pearce were lots of fun.

Andrew Kitson
The Mallory lake incident happend when dicing with Redman and Hailwood for the lead when they came to lap Terry Sanger who moved one way for Redman but collecting Keith launching him in the air and taking both front wheels off sangers car, Keith ended up in the lake narrowly advoiding a concrete marshals post. Keith was lucky enough to end upright in a shallow part so there was no "swimming" issues however Fred Saunders a Diver by trade stopped to see if any assistance was needed.

More to follow....................................

[Danny Skehan]

Here is Keith at Mondello - forgot the date!

[Cirrus]

Seeing mention of Salvage Squad in connection with Keith Holland's Lola reminded me that Fred Saunders also appeared in a Salvage Squad programme, restoring (I think) a dustcart.

[sterling49]

Originally posted by Thundersport
Sorry for the delay work has been very busy!

Sterling49
The Lotus 47 and E-type were owned by Molash racing partnership from Molash near Faversham Kent. The dices with Pearce were lots of fun.

Andrew Kitson
The Mallory lake incident happend when dicing with Redman and Hailwood for the lead when they came to lap Terry Sanger who moved one way for Redman but collecting Keith launching him in the air and taking both front wheels off sangers car, Keith ended up in the lake narrowly advoiding a concrete marshals post. Keith was lucky enough to end upright in a shallow part so there was no "swimming" issues however Fred Saunders a Diver by trade stopped to see if any assistance was needed.

More to follow....................................

Interesting! Thank you! I went through Molash today, I guessed that must be the connection, a very small village.Keith must have some interesting tales to tell, look forward to the next installment. Cheers!


Sterling

[David M. Kane]

Danny:

That's an M18 at Mondello right?

[timf5000]

David M.

No that's Keith's M10B, sometimes in later races called an M10H due to Keith's various mods.

Apparently Keith visited my mother's recently and looked at one of my F5000s which is his old T102. Unfortunately wasn't there to see him, didn't know he was dropping in after so many years. My father was the Ian Ward Racing team manager and had helped Keith with entries and sponsorship proposals with the M10.

Tim

[Thundersports]

Sorry for delay been busy with work and playing with Euroboss at Zolder.
MCS
Your list of cars Keith drove is 100% correct his favourite was the Trojan T101, the fastest the Lola T400 the Chevron B24 holds great memories including a dice with Jody Scheketer at the 1972 race of champions which involved some fairly feisty racing as Keith didn't get on with Jody. This was also a car that Keith owned.
The Tasman series holds fond memories with Keith however Silverstone doesn't as he found results difficult to come by. The reason he participated in the P100 series was for "something to do" and he found them woefully under powered (unsurprisingly).
Keith is still running his plant business in Kent and would be keen to get behind the wheel of a Formula 5000 car again, anyone got a spare seat........................................................

[IDAC]

Thundersport

[IDAC]

Thundersport, Did Keith Holland run his M10B in the tasman series, if so would you know the chassis no?I am looking for any Information on this car and driver combination.

[Thundersports]

I'm overdue a visit or call from the old rogue i'll ring him at the weekend and find out.

[Duncan Fox]

IDAC .
Yes Keith ran his M10B in some Tasman races in Australia. The chassis was 400-06 which now resides here in N.Z. It has lain in a dismantled state in a lockup in Seattle since 1976. After moving through a couple more owners since I have shipped it down to N.Z. and have now passed it on to Poul Christie who will restore it with my assistance and run it in pre 72 F5000 alongside his T190 Lola.and our Church Farm M10A.

[Prototype]

Keith Holland's McLaren M10B was the ex Peter Gethin championship car of 1970. Holland bought the car to Australia to run in the 1970 Australian GP @ Warwick Farm, then the Tasman Series. From memory a shortage of funds precluded Holland running the NZ leg of the series. In the interim, to keep the wolf from the door, Keith took a job in Sydney at a mob called Automotive Carburettors.

[IDAC]

Thanks for the information , is anyone likley to have any photos or where should I look for some .

[aaron]

Keith also ran the B24/B28 Chevron here in 1978. Ex Gethin VDS car which won the Tasman in 1974. Aaron

[Thundersports]

Well the above saved me a phone call!

[donharper]

IIRC in 1978 , Keith ran Jon Davo's Lola at Sandown , which was the first round of the Australian part of the Tasman ?

[David McKinney]

There was no Tasman Series in 1978

[Paul Parker]

I watched Keith Holland at Brands Hatch many times in 1966/67 racing the dark blue E type.

It was quite a well used looking car with I seem to recall wider wheels/tyres than the always immaculately presented Warren Pearce E type.

As for their battles I also seem to recall that KH was usually much quicker than WP and unless his car developed problems he normally finished in front.

What became of these two modsports cars? I think Warren Pearce had a very bad smash at Castle Coombe that ended his career but its so long ago now and I'm away from my period Autosports so I can't check the where, when and how.

[sterling49]

Originally posted by Paul Parker
I watched Keith Holland at Brands Hatch many times in 1966/67 racing the dark blue E type.

It was quite a well used looking car with I seem to recall wider wheels/tyres than the always immaculately presented Warren Pearce E type.

As for their battles I also seem to recall that KH was usually much quicker than WP and unless his car developed problems he normally finished in front.

What became of these two modsports cars? I think Warren Pearce had a very bad smash at Castle Coombe that ended his career but its so long ago now and I'm away from my period Autosports so I can't check the where, when and how.

Do you remember the 3rd member of the gang? John Quick in "WOO 11", a fastback (lightweight?) E type, with the "moon equiped" eyes logo adorning the sides. Great races, back in the day, modsports were often the highlight of the day for me back then

[Paul Parker]

Yes I do and in fact saw the reconstituted WOO 11 at the Oldtimer meeting a few years ago.

WOO was not a lightweight, none of the modsports Es were, they were standard steel monocoques with alloy or plastic bonnets, perspex windows and the doors I don't know about.

I also remember Rob Schroeder, Brian Wilson, Mike Loveday, Gordon Spicer and others from the late 1960s. Most mod sports E types used Mimilites but I also recall the J. A. Pearce wheels and some very wide welded steel rims.

This leads me to the Healeys, Stuart Hands, John Chatham, John Gott etc. The late 1960s modsports events produced great racing in a great variety of cars, nothing to match it today in my opinion.

I was told by somebody a while ago that John Quick was unwell, but living up a mountain for months at a time I sometimes miss the news. Anybody know how he is?

[Paul Parker]

Correction it's Brian Spicer upon reflection and Minilites (typo!)

[sterling49]

Originally posted by Paul Parker
I also remember Rob Schroeder, Brian Wilson, Mike Loveday, Gordon Spicer and others from the late 1960s. Most mod sports E types used Mimilites but I also recall the J. A. Pearce wheels and some very wide welded steel rims.

This leads me to the Healeys, Stuart Hands, John Chatham, John Gott etc. The late 1960s modsports events produced great racing in a great variety of cars, nothing to match it today in my opinion.

I was told by somebody a while ago that John Quick was unwell, but living up a mountain for months at a time I sometimes miss the news. Anybody know how he is?

Saw and remember all of these guys with the exception of Brian Wilson, "God Only Knows" what he drove maybe a "Little Deuce Coup"

Sad to hear about John Quick being in poor health.

[Paul Parker]

Brain fade I'm afraid and no way of stopping it apparently.

Now where was I?

Oh yes Brian Wilson, nah, John Wilson, I think!

[richie]

Will be seeing Keith Friday 3/8/07 last chance for questions.........

Any chance of asking him if he's attending F5000 40th anniversary at Oulton Park Gold Cup- open to ex drivers, owners etc 29-31/8/09? The more the merrier.

[lotusien]

The last answer in this topic is well...very old...

But I have interest for the Lotus 47 and Keith Holland ran one in 1967 / 1968 entered by the Molash Racing Partnership. I saw some info about this team above but I am looking for more info.Who was the boss of this team for exemple. And I am looking for the chassis number of this Lotus 47. Any idea? Many thanks

[Thundersports]

The last answer in this topic is well...very old...

But I have interest for the Lotus 47 and Keith Holland ran one in 1967 / 1968 entered by the Molash Racing Partnership. I saw some info about this team above but I am looking for more info.Who was the boss of this team for exemple. And I am looking for the chassis number of this Lotus 47. Any idea? Many thanks

I sent Keith a message with your query he couldn't recall the chassis number the team boss of Molash Racing was Alistair Crawford.

[Jon Saltinstall]

I'd be interested to hear his recollection of the 1971 F5000 Mallory Park crash when he ended up in the lake!

How many different F5000 cars did he race? Off the top of my head I can think of Lola T142, McLaren M10B, Chevron B24, Trojan T101, Trojan T102, Lola T400 and Lola T332. Which was his favourite and why?

Similarly, which race does he rate as his best and which circuit was his favourite?

Hope he's in good health and spirits - look forward to hearing back from you Thundersport.

 

 

That'll be this, then 

 

[bradbury west]

It would be nice to know  his views and recollections of racing with the GSM Delta, and Pieter de Niekerk all those years ago.

Roger Lund