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[glorius&victorius]

Is this true??

I just read http://www.timesonli...icle2199765.ece

And according to this article there has been an exchange of words between Lewis and Ron:

Hamilton, the 22-year-old from Stevenage, had exchanged angry words with his team boss Ron Dennis as he returned to the pits, reportedly saying: “Don’t ever f****** do that to me again!” Dennis replied: “Don’t ever f****** speak to me like that again!” Hamilton delivered a final riposte: “Go f****** swivel!”

Anyone heard/know more about this??

[carbonfibre]

Come to the dark side Lewis...

;)

[pacwest]

I'd pay damn good money to be able to talk to my boss like that and still get paid.

[Dudley]

http://forums.autosp...y=&pagenumber=1

[armonico]

This is what happen when the person is spoilt to an unbelievable level.

McLaren and Lewis deserved each other and have a brilliant future together.

[QdfV]

Lewis is f****** right!

[carbonfibre]

Originally posted by armonico
This is what happen when the person is spoilt to an unbelievable level.

McLaren and Lewis deserved each other and have a brilliant future together.

Indeed couple of WDC's ahead for him....

[Buttoneer]

Originally posted by armonico
This is what happen when the person is spoilt to an unbelievable level.

Indeed. But at least the spoiled brat got a six place grid penalty.

[Mauseri]

Any chance to see Hamilton in Ferrari next year

[QdfV]

I have a natural adversion for McLaren drivers, but Lewis is great and not because of this, but his driving, his immunity for intimidation, great stuff, I have to admit.

[Neo]

More likely a Prodrive/Mclaren if he is switched!!

[MortenF1]

I thought you had Hamilton in mind with "spoilt brat".
If he really said that to Ron Dennis, his mentor, friend and above all in this incident, his boss, he's a rude prick.

[hello86]

and ron thought kimi and montoya are difficult characters

[prty]

It was just reported that now Hamilton doesn't talk to anyone in the team, and when asked, Alonso confirmed it

[Wilko]

Originally posted by race addicted
I thought you had Hamilton in mind with "spoilt brat".
If he really said that to Ron Dennis, his mentor, friend and above all in this incident, his boss, he's a rude prick.

Yeah I agree, up till now I never thought to much of him one way or the other, other than how the media had a thing for him but that wasn't his fault, but you don't talk like that to your boss and guy who gave you a start.

[brunopascal]

Originally posted by hello86
and ron thought kimi and montoya are difficult characters

Hehe, managing the alleged party-lion Kimi must seem like a dream job now.

Originally posted by prty
It was just reported that now Hamilton doesn't talk to anyone in the team, and when asked, Alonso confirmed it

Do you have a source for that?

[lukywill]

this lewis guy is a clown. a fast clown if you prefer. i always suspect people who smiles too much and unnecessarily.
also quite neurotic: lots of nervous face sides.

for sure this episode can only help alonso expectations at mclaren this year.

[prty]

Originally posted by brunopascal

Do you have a source for that?

I recorded the video, but can't be arsed to upload it now to youtube.

[brunopascal]

Originally posted by prty


I recorded the video, but can't be arsed to upload it now to youtube.

Aha, ok. I thought maybe you read it somewhere.

[WHITE]

Originally posted by armonico
This is what happen when the person is spoilt to an unbelievable level.

[ExxonValdez]

Originally posted by micra_k10
Any chance to see Hamilton in Ferrari next year

Probably in Super Aguri or in Spyker.

Fernado has revealed some minutes ago that nobody in McLaren wants to speak to Hamilton. Lewis is completly alone in the team now. Spanish steward from the FIA Joaquin Verdegay also stated that there was no reason for the penalty against Alonso. "Hamilton actually had his flying lap done... Where's the rule which established how many flying laps a driver can have?", he asked. In private, journalist Antonio Lobato, asked Alonso if he was really upset and from "1 to 10", how much upset he was. Alonso replied: "15". In public he said that he's OK. "I'm not the problem", he said. "The problem in McLaren is Hamilton, not me"... He recognized it would be a miracle if he can win this race. Overtaking is almost impossible. Sparks are flying.

[karlth]

Originally posted by prty


I recorded the video, but can't be arsed to upload it now to youtube.

What video? Who said it?

Quite serious if true.

[prty]

Originally posted by karlth


What video? Who said it?

Quite serious if true.

This video:



Or this frame from the video should I say.

[president evil]

No matter the rights and wrongs of what happened yesterday Lewis should watch his mouth.. no matter how golden their golden boy is no one at McLaren will appreciate being spoken to like that from anyone especially a rookie and McLaren family boy who virtually grew up with them.. beit a mechanic or tea lady Lewis should show some respect to his family. I agree with the previous post... never trust someone who smiles too much! Trouble with Lewis is he is perceived as being whiter that white ..well maybe now he is showing his true colours. (And I'm not talking about HIS colour incidentally before anyone moans). He needs to realise the team doesn't revolve around him no matter how much he thinks it does.

[Sergino]

If I were Dennis I would have replied: so what???

[kar]

Didn't take Verdegay long to stick his fat nose in did it?

[VoidNT]

Originally posted by prty
It was just reported that now Hamilton doesn't talk to anyone in the team

If true, Hamilton is VERY embarrassed.

[carbonfibre]

Ofcourse Fernando would confirm it, sets him in a better daylight again compared to Lewis. I wouldnt be surprised though if he isnt willing to talk to Alonso.

[Cheap Wine Alesi]

Originally posted by VoidNT


If true, Hamilton is VERY embarrassed.

Or VERY angry.

[ensign14]

For what it's worth, Ronzo denies that those were the words used.

Which I can believe, it would be more like "the current interlocutory attitude is one which, if utilized in the continuing chronological development, is congruent with intercourse of a reproductory nature in partnership with a particularly cacodaemonic specimen".

[snx843]

Its all downhill from here today

[karlth]

Originally posted by ensign14
... intercourse of a reproductory nature ...

[VoidNT]

Originally posted by prty


This video:



Or this frame from the video should I say.

prty, who's this bald TV guy? I'm seeing him not the first time, he must be a star in Spain?

[Fortymark]

I wonder if this is really true. It wasn´t directly Ron that was standing there
and holding up Lewis, it was Alonso.
Probably Lewis could have done an Montoya @spa comment.

Edit: Ensign

[slapstick]

Originally posted by armonico
This is what happen when the person is spoilt to an unbelievable level.

Obviously you are talking about dirty Alonso.

[ExxonValdez]

Originally posted by VoidNT


prty, who's this bald TV guy? I'm seeing him not the first time, he must be a star in Spain?

He's Antonio Lobato, Tele5 Spanish commentator. He has free access to Fernando and the right to interview him personally (not in the kind of Press Conference) 5 minutes before the race starts. He also has Pedro de la Rosa in his TV team as a commentator.

By the way, they decided today not to ask Pedro de la Rosa about Hamilton's affaire in order not to force him to speak his mind out.

[f1rules]

Ron needs to tell the drivers who the boss is, and that no one is bigger than the team, the drivers need the team more if they want to win the wdc, than the team needs its drivers.

[prty]

Originally posted by VoidNT


prty, who's this bald TV guy? I'm seeing him not the first time, he must be a star in Spain?

Sort of... he's Antonio Lobato, T5 journalist. Remember:

[f1rules]

Originally posted by ExxonValdez



He's Antonio Lobato, Tele5 Spanish commentator. He has free access to Fernando and the right to interview him personally (not in the kind of Press Conference) 5 minutes before the race starts. He also has Pedro de la Rosa in his TV team as a commentator.

By the way, they decided today not to ask Pedro de la Rosa about Hamilton's affaire in order not to force him to speak his mind out.

thanks for the info, if there is more both from Lobato or if pedro has any interesrting stuff please share, thanks

[peroa]

Even RTL showed some dignity last year in Monaco, Lobato`s has blinded him.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally posted by lukywill
this lewis guy is a clown. a fast clown if you prefer. i always suspect people who smiles too much and unnecessarily.
also quite neurotic: lots of nervous face sides.

for sure this episode can only help alonso expectations at mclaren this year.

But Alonso is the lunatic who caused the penalty by executing the racing related competition infringement.

Time to stop the mad Spainard from embaressing Vodafone McLaren Mercedes corporate partners , a Hamilton/Webber line-up would be an excellent installation for the 2008 season.

[prty]

Originally posted by carbonfibre
Ofcourse Fernando would confirm it, sets him in a better daylight again compared to Lewis. I wouldnt be surprised though if he isnt willing to talk to Alonso.

Originally posted by Wout
Dutch RTL just showed footage, shot with their own camera, of Ron Dennis walking up to Hamilton after qualy and grabbing him by the shoulder/neck....looking very very angry. Hamilton immediately pulled back from Dennis and didn't make eye contact

[ExxonValdez]

Originally posted by peroa
Even RTL showed some dignity last year in Monaco, Lobato`s has blinded him.

Well, it's normal. I suppose that British media will speak about Hamilton as though he was the England National Team in a international football match. Same for Tele5: For them, the heroes are the Spaniards, the others are the oponents to beat. A friend of mine living in London told me that the Hamiton's fever in British media is long way greater than in Spain with Alonso.

I find it normal.

[jimpo]

Originally posted by prty
It was just reported that now Hamilton doesn't talk to anyone in the team, and when asked, Alonso confirmed it

Confirmation from Alonso, that's a trustworthy source!

[Cheap Wine Alesi]

Originally posted by ExxonValdez


Well, it's normal. I suppose that British media will speak about Hamilton as though he was the England National Team in a international football match. Same for Tele5: For them, the heroes are the Spaniards, the others are the oponents to beat. A friend of mine living in London told me that the Hamiton's fever in British media is long way greater than in Spain with Alonso.

I find it normal.

If he lives in London, how would he know how big the Alonso fever in Spain is?

[K-One]

Originally posted by ExxonValdez

Same for Tele5: For them, the heroes are the Spaniards, the others are the oponents to beat. A friend of mine living in London told me that the Hamiton's fever in British media is long way greater than in Spain with Alonso.

I find it normal.

Is Spanish media ever critical of Alonso? Or are they able to praise Hamilton for his efforts or is it only Hamilton is favoured crap?

[armonico]

cria cuervos y te sacaran los ojos.

[ExxonValdez]

Originally posted by V8 Fireworks


But Alonso is the lunatic who caused the penalty by executing the racing related competition infringement.

Time to stop the mad Spainard from embaressing Vodafone McLaren Mercedes corporate partners , a Hamilton/Webber line-up would be an excellent installation for the 2008 season.

Sorry to disagree, but it was Hamilton words accusing his team-mate and his own team (as it happened in Monaco) which forced FIA to open a new (the second) investigation. Tele5 (a channel which has access to Alonso) also reported that Hamilton testified against Alonso and Dennis and he said that the official version by McLaren was not true. That's the reason for the penalty against Alonso.

By the way, Alonso, very ironic, asked today which rule in which sport regulation about pit-lane had he broke... And it's true: There was not "According to rule X.XX", but "the stewards don't accept this explanation"...

[ExxonValdez]

Originally posted by Cheap Wine Alesi
If he lives in London, how would he know how big the Alonso fever in Spain is?

because he travels, has access to internet and buy Spanish newspapers...

[scheivlak]

Originally posted by ExxonValdez


Sorry to disagree, but it was Hamilton words accusing his team-mate and his own team (as it happened in Monaco) which forced FIA to open a new (the second) investigation. Tele5 (a channel which has access to Alonso) also reported that Hamilton testified against Alonso and Dennis and he said that the official version by McLaren was not true.

Ah, a whistleblower

And here I thought Ron liked that kind of behaviour