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[phinorman]

Hi !

To finish my book about Mike Beuttler, I try to know if he had raced in Formula Lire ou climbhils between 1963 and 1967 (photos, artiles and classifications required).

Thanks in advance.

Phinorman

[Rob29]

Don't know about hill climbs but I think he did some Brands Hatch clubbies with his F3 cars.Sorry can't be more specific as I no longer have details.

[RobertE]

I may be quite wrong, but I believe that Jane Clark (widow of the splendidly caddish Alan) was a Beuttler - I had thought she was MB's sister, but I forget who told me. MB is not mentioned in Clark's diaries, but that may be because of the rumours surrounding the nature of his demise?

She still lives at Saltwood Castle, Hythe, Kent.

[phinorman]

Hi Robert !

Thanks for your help. I have met Mrs Clark three times for my book. She doesn't know well the detail of MB's career in racing.

Best regards !

Phinorman

Originally posted by RobertE
I may be quite wrong, but I believe that Jane Clark (widow of the splendidly caddish Alan) was a Beuttler - I had thought she was MB's sister, but I forget who told me. MB is not mentioned in Clark's diaries, but that may be because of the rumours surrounding the nature of his demise?

She still lives at Saltwood Castle, Hythe, Kent.

[phinorman]

Hi Rob29 !

Thanks for your help.

For me the first race of Mike beuttler in F3 was in the end of 1967.

With my best regards !

Phinorman

Originally posted by Rob29
Don't know about hill climbs but I think he did some Brands Hatch clubbies with his F3 cars.Sorry can't be more specific as I no longer have details.

[phinorman]

Hi !

I'll lookafter in F2 register for the clubbies races between 1963 et 1967 but I'm not sure for that.

Best regards.

Phinorman

Originally posted by phinorman
Hi Rob29 !

Thanks for your help.

For me the first race of Mike beuttler in F3 was in the end of 1967.

With my best regards !

Phinorman

[Stefan Ornerdal]

My first note of Mike Beuttler, june 12, 1960:

http://www.formula2.net/FJ60_GB25.htm

Phinorman, please check your PM inbox!


Kind regards
Stefan
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www.vargarna.nu
stefan.ornerdal@minmail.net

[Cirrus]

There's a photo of the cars lining up on the starting grid for that race in "Formula Junior Racing Cars Remembered" by Bernard Cowdrey.

[phinorman]

Hi Stefan !

I knew results of MB in FJ with your website ; thanks.

I hope to find eventual races of Mike between 1963 and 1967.

Best regards. Phinorman

Originally posted by Stefan Ornerdal
My first note of Mike Beuttler, june 12, 1960:

http://www.formula2.net/FJ60_GB25.htm

Phinorman, please check your PM inbox!


Kind regards
Stefan
www.formula2.net
www.vargarna.nu
stefan.ornerdal@minmail.net

[phinorman]

Hi Cirrus !

Thanks for that information ; I have this pic scanned from the book (not for my own book).

Best regards ! Phinorman

Originally posted by Cirrus
There's a photo of the cars lining up on the starting grid for that race in "Formula Junior Racing Cars Remembered" by Bernard Cowdrey.

[Stefan Ornerdal]

Silly me

Did not catch the title of this thread - 1963-1967 - I thought about the first year Mike Beuttler had some race results.

What did he do these years in the middle of th 60's?
Studying the law at a university together with Mr B.C. Ecclestone and some future stock-brokers?
And spend his spare time together with Keith Richard, Keith Moon, Ronnie Wood, Robert Plant and all the others?

Looking forward to your book, Philippe!

Stefan
www.formula2.net

[David Birchall]

Originally posted by RobertE
I may be quite wrong, but I believe that Jane Clark (widow of the splendidly caddish Alan) was a Beuttler - I had thought she was MB's sister, but I forget who told me. MB is not mentioned in Clark's diaries, but that may be because of the rumours surrounding the nature of his demise?

She still lives at Saltwood Castle, Hythe, Kent.

In Alan Clarke's wonderful book "Backfire", he mentions in the caption to the photo of Clarke's Talbot Lago GP car: "...Jane's brother, Mike Beuttler, a Formula 1 and Formula 3 driver, campaigned it for a time until it had to be sold...."

As an aside, is this the car that Peter Giddings owns/owned?

[David McKinney]

Originally posted by David Birchall
As an aside, is this the car that Peter Giddings owns/owned?

Giddings has owned two Talbots that I can recall, neither of them the ex-Clarke/Beuttler

[petefenelon]

Originally posted by RobertE
I may be quite wrong, but I believe that Jane Clark (widow of the splendidly caddish Alan) was a Beuttler - I had thought she was MB's sister, but I forget who told me. MB is not mentioned in Clark's diaries, but that may be because of the rumours surrounding the nature of his demise?

She still lives at Saltwood Castle, Hythe, Kent.

This is absolutely correct. I found it very odd that in three volumes of diaries, Clark (a noted petrolhead) doesn't mention Mike. (Then again it's entirely possible that that material, not pertaining to politics, gambling, his relationship with his father, or his horizontal jogging activities) was edited out. There's barely a mention of Mike in Back Fire either. Maybe he and Mike just didn't get on.

I know Mike did at least one historic race in Alan's Talbot.

[phinorman]

Hi Stefan !

Many thanks for these precisions. I'm agree with you : the title of the thread would be Mike Beuttler : his activities between 1962 and 1967.

Best regards.
Phinorman

Originally posted by Stefan Ornerdal
Silly me

Did not catch the title of this thread - 1963-1967 - I thought about the first year Mike Beuttler had some race results.

What did he do these years in the middle of th 60's?
Studying the law at a university together with Mr B.C. Ecclestone and some future stock-brokers?
And spend his spare time together with Keith Richard, Keith Moon, Ronnie Wood, Robert Plant and all the others?

Looking forward to your book, Philippe!

Stefan
www.formula2.net

[phinorman]

Hi !

Do you know a website or a book about GB hillclimbs and GB Formula libre between 1960 and 1970 ?

Best regards.

Phinorman

[David McKinney]

No websites with comprehensive results (though some are being worked on)
No book on libre racing, though the races are mentioned in various circuit histories
Uphill Racers by Chris Mason is a fairly detailed history of hillcimbing (but if you're looking for Beuttler references he's not listed in the index)

[phinorman]

Hi David !

Thanks for your help.

Best regards. Phinorman.

Originally posted by David McKinney
No websites with comprehensive results (though some are being worked on)
No book on libre racing, though the races are mentioned in various circuit histories
Uphill Racers by Chris Mason is a fairly detailed history of hillcimbing (but if you're looking for Beuttler references he's not listed in the index)