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#1 Moon A

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 18:06

Just wondering if F1 will allow more girls (cheerleaders) into the sport. To tell you the truth, its really boring after hours of watching cars and pitcrews. I love F1, but maybe more entertainment, pre and post-race show, interviews, or maybe I am asking too much. Perhaps have different girls representing each team in every race. NBA, NFL, boxing have it, why not F1? Something to think about.

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#2 Ali_G

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 18:15

At least Eddie Jordan livens the place up. Melinda Messinger and some other blonde beauties are there for the presenting of the new car. They are also at a lot of races too.

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#3 Lamont

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 18:16

What's wrong, the spandex clad sign holders in front of each car isn't enough for you? :stoned:

Personally I'd rather see female drivers rather than more cheesecake.....

#4 Ali_G

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 18:20

I never thought of them myself. I think we will see some beauties next Sunday.

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#5 Moon A

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 19:01

Oh yeah, female drivers too. This will definetly get my fiance and other female viewer's attention. Honestly I don't think women are 'into' F1 racing. Maybe this will help... and more cheerleaders for the guys.

#6 Ellen2

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 19:03

how about you go to the local strip joint and leave F1 as a sport without the typical US cheeleaders and similar BS????

If cars and races are not entertaining enough for you, go somewhere else. The last thing I want to see is a bunch of blonde bimbos dressed in silver/red cheering for Hakkinen and Schumi in ponpons and mini-skirts!!!!

#7 Moon A

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 19:06

I just asked my fiancee about female drivers in F1. That reason alone won't convince her into liking it. I wish we can have more women supporting guys like me.

#8 arcwulf7

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 19:14

You probably enjoyed the Monaco GP. The host broadcaster stakes out key balcony beauties, or pit babes, or grandstand girls, and occaisionally goes cruising around the harbour for yacht wenches. Since no one has ever successfully made a contested pass at Monaco they have quite a bit time after the start of the race for this diversion. :)

#9 Pit Babe

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 19:25

Originally posted by Moon A
Honestly I don't think women are 'into' F1 racing.


:rolleyes:

How would you define "into"? I'm really not sure what you're on about.

#10 arcwulf7

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 19:33

the pit babes i referred to are of course the generic babes of the pits, not our own world famous Pit Babe-- who would never submit to becoming such a trivial token of male attention. :)

#11 Lamont

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 20:33

Originally posted by Moon A
Honestly I don't think women are 'into' F1 racing.


I think the women on this BB might beg to differ. :D

#12 Pit Babe

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 20:37

Exactly my point, Lamont. Thank you.

#13 RaceGirl

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 20:44

Sorry to disappoint you, Moon A, but some women are very "into" F1. :)

#14 DaveK

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 20:53

Take pill! Moon A didn't say there wasn't any women into F1. Intrusive administrator's posts don't count do they?

#15 Pit Babe

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:01

But I never assumed that he did. In fact, I asked for clarification because I always leave room in the universe for the possibility that I am misinterpreting what I read.

Why would what I have to say be of any less value than other's comments because I'm an admin?

#16 Pascal

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:06

Originally posted by DaveK
Intrusive administrator's posts don't count do they?


Would you care to develop that puzzling statement further? :confused:

#17 Grano

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:06

Just a thought, if ever another female driver makes it into F1 do you think we will have to look at a spandex clad male pithunk infront of her car? Oh the horror....

#18 Moon A

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:07

Good point DaveK, all I am saying is that we should have more entertainment for the guys, while we should support for more female drivers. I am sure there are female F1 supporters out there and I am not aruging against that! I wish more women can get 'into' watching F1 because it seems to me that I am always surrounded by guys and not girls while watching it. Even my fiancee think I am nuts! If that's the case, let's have more women in F1 racing, both drivers and race babes! I am all for it.

#19 goGoGene

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:07

Yes Davy, Host views do "count" in here.

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#20 Lamont

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:23

Originally posted by Moon A
If that's the case, let's have more women in F1 racing, both drivers and race babes! I am all for it.


The problem is I think those two are mutually exclusive. You aren't going to get women race fans by parading a bunch of other women around in spandex and swimsuits. Same goes for female drivers...if women are treated as objects by race fans and promoters, they aren't likely to want to get involved in such a sport.

#21 Pit Babe

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:24

Thank you Moon A, for clarifying. I understand now. :)

Granö, :lol: I'm looking forward to that "horror"...

#22 Keith Steele

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:34

My wife really enjoyed F1 for someone who hadnt been a race fan until she met me. Greg's death knocked the wind out of her sails so she doesnt watch anymore. But she still wants to know whats going on. If you want to improve F1, make the drivers more accesible to the public and less to the media. I dont need push up bras to improve my F1. Although I bet DC would look hot in a corset and chaps. ;)

#23 DaveK

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Posted 18 September 2000 - 21:53

Thanks for the clarification. Good to know.

#24 Alena

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 06:39

... and the drivers should be clothed in swimming trunks ?

#25 baddog

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 06:51

there are beautiful smooth fast things to see in f1.. they are called cars. As mentioned above if racing isnt what you want to see go to a stripjoint. Dont forget your dirty mac.

While I would dearly love to see women drivers in F1, I find the 'jordan babes' and similiar displays to be downright annoying, a 1970's throwback and look forward to the time such nonsense is forgotten. I have no doubt that sort of thing is offputting to some who would like the sport.

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PS I have known numerous women who were very into and knowledgeable about F1.

#26 Max Torque

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 07:20

Personally I don't care about pitbabes and cheerleaders (?!?) in F1. Nothing would change for me even if the pitbabes disappeared whatsoever.

I'm into F1 because of the shiny 3-litre-rockets-on-wheels.

That said, I don't understand why a female fan would feel uneasy and even become uninterested in F1, because of the existance of said babes.
If, as someone mentioned, it was 'bodybuilding hunks' that presented the cars and went around the paddock, although I wouldn't be interested in them, I certainly would neither feel insulted nor lose my interest in F1 because of them. I would accept it as part of the whole 'package'.

And anyway, it's not like these girls are exploited or anything. They are paid well and I'm sure they enjoy what they are doing.

But, this is only a male fan's opinion of course and I might not be seeing the whole thing clearly :)

#27 baddog

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 07:27

max, for many women they arent an issue (my GF finds them funny for instance) but there are those (women and men) for whom the existence of women like these in the sport (combined with some other things) creates this macho bullshit atmosphere that is offputting where the sport in its own right might attract them.

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#28 Max Torque

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 08:01

You're right Shaun.

But I just don't find it such big a deal to begin with. Certainly though, if there were even more girls and even more girls, that might become annoying. I agree.
But watching from the TV, I don't see much of them anyway.
Erja is the only female that stays long enough on-camera to remember her face. The Jordan girls I am mostly familiar with, because they keep popping up when I download race pictures!


#29 baddog

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 08:05

true, the tv dont show them much thank god, but at the races they are inescapable

anyway, off to a brianrottingly boring meeting.

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#30 dooly

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 11:46

F1 is about the drivers, the cars, the strategies..... Anyone wanting to look at bloody big breasted blonde/brunette booby bimbos should go watch re-runs of The Benny Hill Show ;) :p

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 11:49

bloody big breasted blonde/brunette booby bimbos

Apologies to any of the above who visit this Bulletin Board!!!;)

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 11:54

the mechanics and drivers affectionatly call these girls Screwdrivers

#33 dooly

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 12:01

Originally posted by andy_bee
the mechanics and drivers affectionatly call these girls Screwdrivers


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's so funny, I have to laugh some more!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


#34 Huw Jenjin

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 12:28

Back in the seventies or eighties Hesketh entered a 308E sponsored by Penthouse magazine. It had a penthouse pet painted from the cockpit (ahem) to the nose.
Just to even things up on the battle of the sexs they ran Davina Galica in the car as well.
Why have no female drivers really climbed to the top? (and dont give me that "no support garbage- If a woman driver was good enough she would get the biggest sponsorship deal in history)

#35 FredF1

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 12:34

I think most F1 fans have the correct sense of proportion about these things. At Spa, there were a bunch of glamorous women from one of Arrows sponsors standing across from us waving and all that - The moment the first car came by, everyone had lost total interest in them and concentrated on the cars.

#36 baddog

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 12:40

I think the roots of the lack of women drivers in F1 are in the lower ranks of motorsport, rather than f1 itself.

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#37 Zac

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 12:54

From a female F1 fans point of view the scantily clad "pit babes" don't really bother me, particularly when watching on tv, although they are a little harder to ignore when you're at a race. And I don't think either female drivers or scantily clad men would affect my interest in f1 at all(although I did like the idea of the drivers in swimming trunks! :lol: ). As to the number of female f1 fans, I have to say most of my female friends can't understand my obsession with F1 but I also don't know a lot of men who are as big a fan as I am either.

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 12:55

There was a few months ago quite interesting coverage on AtlasF1 regarding female F1 drivers.

If I remember correctly, the main hindrance for females are sponsors, and the team's unwillingness to stick their feet into cold water. But there are a few ladies who hope to get a drive one day. There was actually a quite interesting interview of one lady.

I'm sure you should be able to find the article in the archives of AtlasF1, since it was posted sometime this year

#39 FredF1

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 13:25

I think this is the article you were on about.


http://www.atlasf1.c...view/magan.html

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#40 Lamont

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 14:43

Originally posted by Zac
As to the number of female f1 fans, I have to say most of my female friends can't understand my obsession with F1 but I also don't know a lot of men who are as big a fan as I am either.


Heehee. Male or female, we are a nutty lot, aren't we? :lol: :stoned: :drunk:

#41 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 14:48

The problem is there are very very few even decent female drivers. The majority of male drivers suck, so the odds are even worse that a woman would make it.

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 15:00

Sorry MOon but can't agree with you on this at all. I like babes as much asthe next guy, but more intertainment? Stop and think just for a moment what you are saying, F1 is not interesting enough for you maybe world federation wrestling? That seems to be the rub for TV producers, go for the real race fan or dancing girls for the masses? We used to go to Watkins glen and buy a garage pass for $2.00 and stare at the cars for hours after the practice sessions. Now that was entertainment. ciao, GFW

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 16:11

'The more things change the more they stay the same'
We still have a long way to go Babes! I always thought it was all about the racing.:rolleyes:

#44 Moon A

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 18:12

F1 is not all about racing, I believe that we should have more... I love the atmosphere, drivers and teams, and pure racing is what does it for me. But after years of watching, F1 should provide more entertainment for the fans. Girls in bikinis, guys in speedos, whatever! F1 will look a lot better, don't you think? Just a thought... After all, its all about entertainment and that's what we pay for.

#45 jaxfan

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 18:59

Men in Speedos, pleaseeee! :eek:

#46 Linus27

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 19:45

I don't care about anything anymore apart from Laetitia Casta so if she can be involved anywhere in F1 then I am in heaven. :)

#47 Cociani

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 19:52

I personally ignore the pit Babes shown on TV. Cheerleading squads would be degrading to the sport.

As for women not liking f1 once introduced to the sport my wife became a complete fanatic. She watches every race and every qualifying and just loves it.

For me everything outside of the racing the cars the stratigies and the people directly involved in the sport are mere diversions. No cheerleaders in hockey no cheerleaders in f1.

P.S. Sooner or later there will be women f1 drivers. As with men the more women involved the more of a chance of finding a dominant driver. I look forward to the day it happens.

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Posted 19 September 2000 - 21:32

My friend's mother and aunt just arrived from Milano [to US]yesterday. They both love Michael Schumacher and know all about him. Their ages are 84 and 86, I didn't have the nerve to ask which was older. Only in Italy do you find such enthusiasim. Ciao, GFW