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[Sergio Sultani]

The Colin Bennett, Sanada and Graham Williams Teams had these wins with Fittipaldi F1 car:

1979 Aurora F1 Series (Champion: Rupert Keegan)
1ª) 15/04/1979 - Brands Hatch - Guy Edwards (Fittipaldi F5A Team ?).

1980 British Formula Libre Championship (Champion: I do not know...)
2ª) 14/06/1980 - Donington - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
3ª) 07/12/1980 - Brands Hatch - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth).

1981 British Formula Libre Championship (Donington Open Championship) (Champion: Val Musetti)
4ª) 19/04/1981 - Donington - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
5ª) 09/05/1981 - Oulton Park - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
6ª) 06/06/1981 - Oulton Park - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
7ª) 07/06/1981 - Donington - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
8ª) 21/06/1981 - Mallory Park - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
9ª) 05/07/1981 - Donington - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
10ª)01/08/1981 - Aintree - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth).

1982 British F1 Championship (Champion: Jim Crawford)
11ª) 09/05/1982 - Gold Oulton Park - Tony Trimmer (Sanada Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth).

1982 British Formula Libre Championship (Champion: I do not know...)
12ª) 05/06/1982 - Oulton Park - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth).

1984 British Formula Libre Championship (BRSCC Open Championship) (Champion: Alo Lawler)
13ª) 29/07/1984 - Ingliston - Russell Spence (Graham Williams Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth 3300).

I ask you:
Anyone have information of anothers Copersucar's (Fittipaldi) car wins?
Anyone have Val Musetti´s photo (or T.Trimmer or R.Spence) driving the Fittipaldi car winner?

Thanks very much
Sergio Sultani.

[fines]

Originally posted by Sergio Sultani
1979 Aurora F1 Series (Champion: Rupert Keegan)
1ª) 15/04/1979 - Brands Hatch - Guy Edwards (Fittipaldi F5A Team ?). [/B]

This was Guy's own team, named after one of his sponsors (Mopar or something similar, the cars were blue/white and yellow), but I think it is stretching things a bit to call this a win: he was 7th, and a lap down iirc! Just because he did get full points for a championship doesn't make him a winner here, does it? A Formula 1 class in a Formula 1 race???

[Allen Brown]

Originally posted by Sergio Sultani
The Colin Bennett, Sanada and Graham Williams Teams had these wins with Fittipaldi F1 car:

1980 British Formula Libre Championship (Champion: I do not know...)
2ª) 14/06/1980 - Donington - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
3ª) 07/12/1980 - Brands Hatch - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth).

1981 British Formula Libre Championship (Donington Open Championship) (Champion: Val Musetti)
4ª) 19/04/1981 - Donington - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
5ª) 09/05/1981 - Oulton Park - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
6ª) 06/06/1981 - Oulton Park - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
7ª) 07/06/1981 - Donington - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
8ª) 21/06/1981 - Mallory Park - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
9ª) 05/07/1981 - Donington - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth),
10ª)01/08/1981 - Aintree - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth).

1982 British Formula Libre Championship (Champion: I do not know...)
12ª) 05/06/1982 - Oulton Park - Val Musetti (Colin Bennett Fittipaldi-Ford Cosworth).

I'm not sure these wins can be called British Formula Libre Championship as there wasn't a national libre championship in these years. There was a MCD Open Championship around this time and some of these events would have been part of that series but that was a club series, not a national series. Also, some of the events that you've listed would not have been a part of any championship.

That said, it's a very good list. I don't have any other wins for Musetti.

Allen

[Alan Cox]

Can't put my hands on one of Edwards at the moment, but here is his team-mate Bernard de Dryver


See also post 2088 by pressman, in Personal Photos from the Paddock

[dnhrudi]

The Fittipaldis were run in 79 by RAM who ran cars for Guy Edwards in 78 and 79 after their privateer efforts in F1 the previous 2 years. As regards Guys 'win' at the race of champions that year, I personally think it was a real win. The Aurora field were on Avon tyres that were almost wooden and they never stood a chance against the F1 guys as the FI teams were on their regular rubber. they even had a one row space on the grid between the 2 fields. the Aurora field were in a championship race wheras the FI guys were just doing their for their own reasons. To top it off I always had a soft spot for Fittipaldi cars and feel that that F5a desevered a win to its name somewhere............

[fines]

I'm sure you're right about RAM Racing , and you're opinion about the Edwards win is also well formed - scratch my post, crumple it up to a ball and try for a 3-point score at your basket!

[Mallory Dan]

IIRC the F5As were usual as quick that year in Aurora as the other 'wing-cars' eg Arrows A1, Lotus 78, Wolf WR6. However the reliability was awful, CV joints kept busting I think, whatever they might be.....They had quite a few Pole Positions, both de Dryver and Edwards.

[Bruno]

Monaco 1978: Emerson Fittipaldi

Wednesday


Thursday morning


saturday qualif

[canon1753]

Originally posted by dnhrudi
The Fittipaldis were run in 79 by RAM who ran cars for Guy Edwards in 78 and 79 after their privateer efforts in F1 the previous 2 years. As regards Guys 'win' at the race of champions that year, I personally think it was a real win. The Aurora field were on Avon tyres that were almost wooden and they never stood a chance against the F1 guys as the FI teams were on their regular rubber. they even had a one row space on the grid between the 2 fields. the Aurora field were in a championship race wheras the FI guys were just doing their for their own reasons. To top it off I always had a soft spot for Fittipaldi cars and feel that that F5a desevered a win to its name somewhere............

Actually that year the Aurora series were on Goodyears... that were almost wooden etc.

I know the HGP folks at Montreal 04 said the same about their own Avons.

Racers always want to go faster

[Sergio Sultani]

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
IIRC the F5As were usual as quick that year in Aurora as the other 'wing-cars' eg Arrows A1, Lotus 78, Wolf WR6. However the reliability was awful, CV joints kept busting I think, whatever they might be.....They had quite a few Pole Positions, both de Dryver and Edwards.

Hi.

Does anyone know if all the 13 wins (since 1979 until 1984) were only with the F5A model?

Thanks

Happy new year ,
Sergio Sultani.

[fines]

I believe all of the Musetti/Bennett wins were in a much modified F5A (see the earlier pics posted by Alan Cox), and the car's designation was F5B, then. The Trimmer/Sanada car would've been an F8B, I'd guess.

[Jerome]

Originally posted by Alan Cox


Can't put my hands on one of Edwards at the moment, but here is his team-mate Bernard de Dryver


See also post 2088 by pressman, in Personal Photos from the Paddock

Bernard de Dryver? That's even a more silly appropriate name than Scott Speed.