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#151 zeppo

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:04

Hamilton to get #1 treatment at McLaren next year:

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/64295


So much for the McLaren equality ehhh.

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#152 Lifew12

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:04

Originally posted by ensign14

the Mille Miglia. All the best F1 drivers were in it as well as the sportscar greats.

And surely the one who had the fastest time ever, beating team-mate Fangio, on top of multiple other GP and sportscar wins, has to be considered as one of the all-time greats...


Partly my point, ensign - it is not the fault of the younger generation, however, that f1 is portrayed as having been the greatest thing on four wheels since time immemorial. On the other hnd, it does not take much to discover otherwise.

#153 ensign14

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:13

Of course, to take that one stage further, Moss did win two world titles - in the sportscar championship as the main force behind Mercedes' and Aston Martin's triumphs.

#154 Lifew12

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:17

Originally posted by ensign14
Of course, to take that one stage further, Moss did win two world titles - in the sportscar championship as the main force behind Mercedes' and Aston Martin's triumphs.


Doesn't count - only Grands Prix count, remember??

#155 Clatter

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:35

Originally posted by zeppo
Hamilton to get #1 treatment at McLaren next year:

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/64295


So much for the McLaren equality ehhh.


Where does anyone from the team say that?

#156 zeppo

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:45

Originally posted by Clatter


Where does anyone from the team say that?


Read between the lines:

Whitmarsh said: "The reality is that Lewis is now an absolutely proven product. He can lead a team and he can be the talisman that can take us to a championship."

Will they want to subject their precious talisman to pressure from within?

#157 Lifew12

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 12:51

Originally posted by zeppo



Will they want to subject their precious talisman to pressure from within?


Lewis himself has said he would prefer a team mate who keeps him on his toes.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 13:06

Originally posted by zeppo


Read between the lines:
Zeppo does not like Hamilton
Whitmarsh said: "The reality is that Lewis is now an absolutely proven product. He can lead a team and he can
Zeppo: Look at my bias
be the talisman that can take us to a championship
."
Feel the power of zeppo's bashing and tremble, puny mortals
Will they want to subject their precious talisman to pressure from within?

Wow you're right, reading between the lines works.

#159 Lifew12

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 13:28

Originally posted by black magic

perhaps some should read stewarts comments



I though he'd been dismissed as a certified halfwit with daft trousers?

do the names montoya, alonso,villeneuve ring any bells?


The middle one does - he was Champion twice on the trot and missed it by one point the next year, wasn't he??

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#160 ex Rhodie racer

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 13:41

A Kimi quote.

"I've always said that I didn't want to retire without having won at least one. Now that target has been reached. Now I want more, as many as possible. Starting from the next one," the Finn told Corriere dello Sport.


I would say that it´s normal for most people to set goals taking it one step at a time. First a GP win, then a WDC, then as many as possible. Lewis has the win. His focus should now be on his first WDC, not on how many before even the first one is in the bag. It´s about keeping your feet firmly on the ground and being realistic I think.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 13:56

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer
A Kimi quote.

"I've always said that I didn't want to retire without having won at least one. Now that target has been reached. Now I want more, as many as possible. Starting from the next one," the Finn told Corriere dello Sport.


I would say that it´s normal for most people to set goals taking it one step at a time. First a GP win, then a WDC, then as many as possible. Lewis has the win. His focus should now be on his first WDC, not on how many before even the first one is in the bag. It´s about keeping your feet firmly on the ground and being realistic I think.


When it comes to "keeping your feet on the ground" Hamilton and Räikönnen represent the extreme, opposite ends of the stick in the current field, that's certain.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 15:32

Originally posted by black magic
however an awful number have arrived with similar billing and no one still enjoys a reputation of the current mob in remotely the same league as schumacher. do the names montoya, alonso,villeneuve ring any bells? and lets be honest in the final analysis jacques had just as good a rookie season as lewis.


Alonso has already bested Schumacher weather he will equal MS' WDC total remains to be seen, as it stands now it is advantage Alonso on the basis of beating Schumacher toe to toe. Let’s not forget that Jacques finished in front of Schumacher every time he had a car capable of the task. I will grant you Montoya did not meet expectations, great talent but undisciplined. Some of you Schumacher fans always have to take it too far. Sorry about the OT but these guys need correcting from time to time.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 16:21

Originally posted by SlateGray


Alonso has already bested Schumacher weather he will equal MS' WDC total remains to be seen, as it stands now it is advantage Alonso on the basis of beating Schumacher toe to toe. Let’s not forget that Jacques finished in front of Schumacher every time he had a car capable of the task. I will grant you Montoya did not meet expectations, great talent but undisciplined. Some of you Schumacher fans always have to take it too far. Sorry about the OT but these guys need correcting from time to time.


Thanks very much. Your intervention was essential. Now we know Alonso bested Schumacher, as much as Villeneuve has bested Schumacher. Or Hill did, or Hakkinen, or Raikkonen also. Patrese too ! Patrese is a very good example of a driver who has bested Schumacher but also had to face the comparaison in equal cars.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 18:02

a lot of thinking by mclaren: lead driver for car number 22 is hamilton. we already suspected it.
now - equality demands - who´s the leading driver of car number 23?

and they are sure that this equality is a better equality than last years equality: for sure this will put them on a wdc chance.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 19:07

Originally posted by lukywill
a lot of thinking by mclaren: lead driver for car number 22 is hamilton. we already suspected it.
now - equality demands - who´s the leading driver of car number 23?

and they are sure that this equality is a better equality than last years equality: for sure this will put them on a wdc chance.


Great post Lucky.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 20:08

Originally posted by f1seb
Hmm he maybe contracted for life by McLaren so he's already halfway there.


It's been 10 years since a WDC for McLaren. What did Ron say after 2000? 21 years before Ferrari won another. Perhaps Ron was projecting his own future.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 20:15

Originally posted by Kaiser


It's been 10 years since a WDC for McLaren. What did Ron say after 2000? 21 years before Ferrari won another. Perhaps Ron was projecting his own future.


10 years? Where did you learn math?

#168 Chui

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 20:38

"Hamilton wants to be the best of all time."

Who the hell doesn't????? :rolleyes:

Now there's criticism for having the audacity to think about winning and plan for it... Oh, the humanity. :down:

#169 Dolph

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 21:07

Originally posted by Mika Mika
All drivers want to be the best.... This time last year Rolf was saying he was the 3rd best!!!!!


That's right, Miko Miko

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 21:11

Originally posted by F1Johnny


10 years? Where did you learn math?


I rounded

#171 F1Johnny

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 21:12

Originally posted by Kaiser


I rounded


OK. Good luck with that.