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[ERault]

Hello,

I am wondering if someone could help with some gaps in 1950 italian sportscar results. As this is purely for my own interest and peace of mind, don't quit your day job for it...

March 26, Coppa Inter-Europa, Monza
1 Sanesi, Alfa 6C 2500
2 Stagnoli, Ferrari 166 MM Zagato
3 Cornacchia, Ferrari (what kind ?)
4 Scagliarini, Cisitalia/Abarth 204A
? Macklin, Aston DB2
...?

April 30, Coppa d’Oro di Sicilia, Siracusa
1 Musmeci, Maserati A6GCS
2 Cherubini, Ferrari
3 La Mota, Ferrari
.... ?

May 14, Parma-Poggio di Berceto
I have seen both Bracco and Stagnoli credited as winner, both on Ferrari ?

August 20, Circuito di Pergusa
1 Valenzano, Cisitalia/Abarth 204A
2 Cammarata, Trinacria-Cisitalia 1100
3 Placido, Stanguellini 1100 SI
... ?

August, Stella Alpina
1 Ammendola, Alfa 6C 2500
2 Maderna, Fiat 1500 Stanguellini
.... ?

Thanks in advance

[raceannouncer2003]

Hi

One source has the March 26, Monza Cornacchia car as a 166 Inter Berlinetta, 009S.

Vince H.

[Udo K.]

Coppa Intereuropa:

5. Giampiero Bianchetti Ferrari 166MM
6. Guido Scagliarini Abarth 204A



Coppa d'Oro Sicilia:
3. Stefano La Motta Ferrari 159C
4. Carlo Pottino Ferrari 2000
5. Mario Cammarata Cisitalia 1100
6. Francesco Garofano Stanguellini-Fiat
7. Giovanni Patane Stanguellini-Fiat
8. Francesco Faraco Cisitalia 1100
9. Michele Tomatore Fiat 1100
10.Celestino Giamporcaro Fiat 750

[Udo K.]

14. Corsa in Salita Parma - Poggio di Berceto

1. Giovanni Bracco
2. Sergio Sighinolfi Fiat
3. Clemente Biondetti Jaguar 3.5

[ERault]

Thank you both

[GIGLEUX]

26/3/1950 II COPPA INTEREUROPA

Duration: 2 hours

Group A:
-class 750:
1.A.Ferrario Fiat Zagato 500 190,147 km
2.Zagato Fiat Zagato 500
3.Carta Fiat 500
4.Brambilla Fiat 500
-class 1100
1.G.Pagani Cisitalia 202B 254,829 km
2.Mijorini Cisitalia 202B
3.Mantori Cisitalia 202
4.Facetti Fiat Zagato
5.Musitelli Cisitalia 202
6.Veroni Fiat Zagato
7.Gramegna Fiat Monviso
8.Grosso Fiat Bertone
9.Gamacchio Cisitalia 202
-class 1500
1.F.Bordoni Maserati 255,484 km
2.Anselmi Lancia Aprilia
3.Haller Lancia Aprilia
4.Jeri Maserati
5.Crespi Lancia Aprilia
6.Ippocampo Lancia Aprilia
7.De Marzo Lancia Aprilia
-class over 1500
1.L.Piotti Alfa romeo 2500 254,851 km
2.Moroni Alfa Romeo 2500

Group B
-class 750
1.E.Zagato Fiat Zagato MM 209,722 km
2.Branca Fiat Zagato MM
3.Marangoni Fiat Zagato
-class 1100
1.Scagliarini Abarth 263,869 km
2.Capelli Fiat S
3.Zoppoli Cisitalia
4.Maderna Fiat S
5.Minardi Fiat S
6.Cappellotto Fiat S
7.Mauri Fiat S
8.Colombo Fiat S
9.Gandini Fiat S
10.Evaso Fiat S
11.Lucchelli Fiat Sirca
-class 2000
1.A.Stagnoli Ferrari 290,569 km
2.Cornacchia Ferrari
3.Bianchetti Ferrari
-class over 2000
1.C.Sanesi Alfa Romeo 2500 294,867 km
2.Macklin Aston-Marti 2580

[dretceterini]

Was Guido Scagliarini's Abarth coupe a 204A or a 205A? The 204As had tube chassis and the 205As had platform chassis, and it appears that there were 3 205A coupes built. I have seen no evidence that any 204A coupes were ever built.

[ERault]

Thanks Gigleux for the results.

To dretceterini, according to "Abarh the man, the machines", it was a "204A sports tourer", later known as a 204A Monza because his first appearance was the Coppa Intereuropa at Monza. The photo shows a stunning Vignale berlinetta still unpainted.

If I understand correctley, road version of this car were 205A, with a different chassis but a similar body.

[dretceterini]

Originally posted by ERault
Thanks Gigleux for the results.

To dretceterini, according to "Abarh the man, the machines", it was a "204A sports tourer", later known as a 204A Monza because his first appearance was the Coppa Intereuropa at Monza. The photo shows a stunning Vignale berlinetta still unpainted.

If I understand correctley, road version of this car were 205A, with a different chassis but a similar body.

To me sports tourer would generally connote a spider.

Curami's book "La Sport E I Suoi Artigiani 1937-1965" says the 1950 Mille Miglia coupe (race number 533) with the aerodynamic nose and tail added was a Tipo 204, but other sources says it was 205-101 (Three Tipo 205 coupes having been built). It also calls an identical looking coupe, but without the aerodynamic nose and tail added a "Tipo Monza 1100 sport".