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[Tobias]

Jacarepagua set to be demolished

By Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, January 8th 2008, 17:33 GMT

The Jacarepagua circuit will be demolished to make way for an Olympic park if Rio de Janeiro is chosen as the venue for the 2016 Olympic Games.

The Brazilian city on Tuesday unveiled details of its third bid to stage the Games. Rio had previously bid for the 2004 and 2012 Games, failing to make the final shortlist on each occasion.

Jacarepagua last hosted Formula One in 1989, a race won by Nigel Mansell in a Ferrari.

The circuit also hosted a round of the CART series from 1996 to 2000 in an accessory oval track named Emerson Fittipaldi Speedway.

Very sad

[wj_gibson]

It was a bit of a noddy track, and one that was barely used in latter years (and I mean used for anything at all - never mind major interantional series). If there is a better use for the site, then they might as well go ahead.

[dutra]

Befone the changes made for the Panamerican Games the circuit was one of the most used in the country with "state range" events. The only reason for the demolition is politic. It would be a lot easier keep the circuit than build another one(that I bet, won't be real for a good number of years).
And one last thing. Take note of this name: Carlos Arthur Nuzman, president of the Brazilian Olympic Comitee. This man could destroy motorsports in Brazil in name of his self-promotion. And this candidature of Rio de Janeiro is just to use public money to promote him and his fellows. And nobody gets arrested...
Sad and pathetic this whole situation.

[COUGAR508]

Although Jacarepagua paled somewhat next to Interlagos, it is still sad to see it disappear.

[coyoteBR]

Ok, put this on the list of things you must write to your congressman and stop from happening.


Although the chances of Rio getting the Olympics, specially after the Pan-American fiascos, is zear zero... thanks God.

[dentistTubster]

Originally posted by coyoteBR
Ok, put this on the list of things you must write to your congressman and stop from happening.


Although the chances of Rio getting the Olympics, specially after the Pan-American fiascos, is zear zero... thanks God.

I agree, Jacarepagua always held a special place in my heart when I watched races from there as a kid. What a pity it would be destroyed if Brazil get the Olympic Games... fortunately, they havent even got into the shortlist when they bid for the 2004 and 2012 games, so there is hope for Jacarepagua yet.

[Ali_G]

I dunno why but one of my favourite F1 photos comes from the 1988 GP at Jacarpagua.

Its in The Ultiamte Encylopedia of F1 with MS, Villeneuve and DC on the cover I think. Looked cool with the huge hills and everything in the background.

[Nikos Spagnol]

Jacarepaguá was always underated.

OK, it was flat, no elevation changes, but the fast section after the opposite straight, with a long, almost-flatout bend to the left, than a kink to the right and finnally a medium-speed left corner, was superb!

Now about half of the track is of no use after they built sport buildings there, but that fast section remains.

Anyway, Rio will never hosts the Olympics in any circunstances, but even so the circuit is under threat: real state companies and corrupt polticians want to bulldoze all that area to build housing for rich people...

[Atreiu]

It is perhaps underrated, but nowadays cars would do zero overtaking on it for several reasons and we'd hate it with a passion (like Barcelona).

[wj_gibson]

The half-serious effort to take the F1 race back there in about 2000 involved a proposal to bypass the fast second half of the circuit altogether, instead having the F1 cars run all the way down the back straight to what is Turn 3 of the oval circuit, which would have become a hairpin for the F1 cars that would simply run straight back to the start/finish area.

[rodlamas]

Originally posted by coyoteBR
Ok, put this on the list of things you must write to your congressman and stop from happening.


Although the chances of Rio getting the Olympics, specially after the Pan-American fiascos, is zear zero... thanks God.

The Pan-Am games were far from a fiasco...

And much better than the 2004 Olympic games where there were no cover to the swimming pool and every day there was a huge ice delivery to cool down the water.

What we brazilian don't need is people bashing their own country.

[Tobias]

Would be nice to see that photo someone mentioned here.

Others are welcome too

[dutra]

Originally posted by rodlamas


The Pan-Am games were far from a fiasco...

And much better than the 2004 Olympic games where there were no cover to the swimming pool and every day there was a huge ice delivery to cool down the water.

What we brazilian don't need is people bashing their own country.

I'm not bashing my country. I'm bashing who is trying to take advantage of it.
And the Pan-Am games were sucessfully organized? Ask to the baseball players. Ask Record TV's employees about the work conditions.
And don't forget those solid walls in the Olympic Stadium that collapsed just one day after the event made with 4 times more money than the necessary.

If you not aware of what is normaly discussed here I tell you that who is from England, for example, is always asking for better facilities in Silverstone, and that is not bashing with their country. It's exactly the opposite.

[ehagar]

What I don't get is why they bent over backwards to get third rate event, and destroyed an international circuit in the process. Sure it wasn't the best circuit in Brazil, but it was the home of the Brazilian MotoGP race. Expecting Interlagos to be safe enough to hold the race seems a bit rich to me...

[kals]

I much preferred Jacarepagua to the new Interlagos, it will be sad to see it go. There is a lot of history there.

[Sith]

I was at that last race in 89' (although we didn't know at the time...) Was planning to go back in 90', but they changed it to Sao Paulo. Jacarepagua really was a great! Sitting atop of the grandstands on the long straight you could nearly see the whole track. I took some great pics when i was in the pits. Senna, Prost, Mansell, Berger and co... I'll have to scan them and put them on this thread....

Long live Jacarepagua!!

[speedmaster]

Originally posted by wj_gibson
It was a bit of a noddy track, and one that was barely used in latter years (and I mean used for anything at all - never mind major interantional series). If there is a better use for the site, then they might as well go ahead.

Jacarepagua circuit begin its fall when Rio's mayor decided to let MotoGP and later Indy Car. The track was great to drive (I've done some racing there) and very technical. The mayor (Cesar Maia) is a good administrator but not capable of understanding racing as a magnet for turism and sports development.

The area where de circuit is will be used to host an sports complex for the Olympic Games 2016 which Rio seems to be sure will be there...so sure it is quite suspect...anyway let's see.

On the flip side, CBA (auto racing regulating board in Brazil) has been place for politics and not supporting the sport. If CBA's president was stronger and competent we would still have, at least, Champ Car and Moto GP there. It is also well know that F1 drivers preferred Rio over SaoPaulo for quite some years.

I'm really sad. I saw the first Jacarepagua, with wood stands, no cover. I've jumped to the track in every race and saw many great drivers in close up... Emmo, Carlos Pace, Wilson Fittipaldi (well this one not that great). Saw Alfas P33, Lolas T70, Porsches 917... and many Brazilian built race cars...saw Piquet winning F1, the Copersucar gets its only second place and saw Ayrton Senna and Mansel...

Jacarepagua was part of my childhood, adolescence and adult life. Too bad it is closing its track. Memories will stick with me forever.

Cheers

[coyoteBR]

Originally posted by rodlamas


The Pan-Am games were far from a fiasco...

And much better than the 2004 Olympic games where there were no cover to the swimming pool and every day there was a huge ice delivery to cool down the water.

What we brazilian don't need is people bashing their own country.

Actually, is for Brasil's sake I'm against the World Cup and Olympics here, as well as I was againts the PanAm games. And:
- finantially, yes, it was a fiasco
- in terms of legacy for Rio de Janeiro, yes, it was a fiasco.
- in terms of utility of the instalations build, yes, it was a fiasco - the apartments build for athlets start to sink during the construction phase - the area is a swamp, you know.
- in terms of reflex for the brazilian sports, yes, it was a fiasco, because we demanded our athlets to get ready for a D-level competition, the Pan-am games, instead of focusing in the Olympics. Luckly no one got injuried at that.

I am extremelly patriotic, I loe my contry. That's why I want it to use well it's money, and use it to help athletes at the basis, instead of improving the life of a few real state people and people like Nuzman and Teixeira

And my love for Brasil demands me to fight to save it's history, in this case, the Jacarepagua circuit

[MONTOYASPEED]

And posting on a BB is going to help a lot.

[Tobias]

Originally posted by Sith
I was at that last race in 89' (although we didn't know at the time...) Was planning to go back in 90', but they changed it to Sao Paulo. Jacarepagua really was a great! Sitting atop of the grandstands on the long straight you could nearly see the whole track. I took some great pics when i was in the pits. Senna, Prost, Mansell, Berger and co... I'll have to scan them and put them on this thread....

Long live Jacarepagua!!

I'm very interested in seeing your pictures sir

This is Jacerpagua today, as seen on google earth. As you see it, the west side (because the pic should be upside down) is already sort of demolished.
A very sad loss I have to say.

And Sith, I watched the review of 1989 today by coincidence. Awesome you wouldn't happen to be the guy running over the start/finish straight when Mansell exits the last corner to win?

[dutra]

This picture is already a bit out-of-date. The west side is almost completly destroyed by now.
That small hairpin connecting the two straights was used by Brazilian Stock Car for the last couple of years, reducing by almost half the track. They used the turn 1 of the oval too.

And posting on a BB is going to help a lot.

Sorry for debating motorsports here....

[Tobias]

Originally posted by dutra
This picture is already a bit out-of-date. The west side is almost completly destroyed by now.
That small hairpin connecting the two straights was used by Brazilian Stock Car for the last couple of years, reducing by almost half the track. They used the turn 1 of the oval too.



Sorry for debating motorsports here....

like this then?

[dutra]

Yes. They just made a small change in the junction after the turn 2 of the oval and the original track to make the turn less sharp. Before that two cars just flipped when hitted the kerb.

In another perspective:

[Sith]

Originally posted by Tobias


I'm very interested in seeing your pictures sir

This is Jacerpagua today, as seen on google earth. As you see it, the west side (because the pic should be upside down) is already sort of demolished.
A very sad loss I have to say.

And Sith, I watched the review of 1989 today by coincidence. Awesome you wouldn't happen to be the guy running over the start/finish straight when Mansell exits the last corner to win?

Ha ha. Na that's not me, but i remember it well.... Looking at that google pic, you can just make out the few corners that used to lead on to the back straight. I must admit, my heart felt heavy upon seeng that arial pic of the track. All the memories of what was my 1st overseas F1 race came flooding back.. I'll have to go and dig up those pics now...