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[ERault]

On 23 May 1954 was held at Spa-Francorchamps a race for "production" sportscars. Some interesting cars showed up, some maybe more "sports" than "production" : Typ C Jag, A6GCS Maserati... It was a multiple class affair, with the result that today almost everyone claim to have win that one.

Maybe someone could clear this up, and even produce detailled race results ?

Thanks

[Hugo Boecker]

all I have

Spa Production Grand Prix 23. Mai 1954

Race 1 12laps



   A.Pilette		  Ford			   1. TC up to 4000cc	135,702km/h	3.

   A.Milhoux		  Ford			   2. TC up to 4000cc				   4.

   Evrard			 Ford				  TC up to 4000cc				   5.	  

					  Ford				  TC up to 4000cc

					  Ford				  TC up to 4000cc

					  Ford				  TC up to 4000cc

					  Ford				  TC up to 4000cc

   R.Laurent		  Dodge				 TC up to 4000cc	dnf

   Julien			 Chrysler			  TC up to 4000cc	dnf

   Franssen		   Mercuy			 1. TC up to 5000cc	136,583km/h	2. 

   P.Frere			Chrysler		   1. TC over 5000cc	 144,101km/h	1.



Race 2 12 laps



   Welter			 Panhard			1. TC up to 1000cc	118,821km/h

   Gosselin		   Panhard			2. TC up to 1000cc

   Jaque			  DKW				3. TC up to 1000cc

   Bay				DKW				4. TC up to 1000cc

   Boucquey		   DKW				5. TC up to 1000cc

   Quernette		  Peugeot 203		1. TC up to 1600cc	123,188km/h

   Henriquet		  Peugeot 203		2. TC up to 1600cc

   Rener			  Peugeot 203		3. TC up to 1600cc

   T.George		   Peugeot			4. TC up to 1600cc

					  FIAT			   5. TC up to 1600cc

					  FIAT			   6. TC up to 1600cc

   P.Frere			Alfa-Romeo 1900Ti  1. TC up to 2500cc	144,660km/h	1.

   P.Stasse		   Alfa-Romeo 1900Ti  2. TC up to 2500cc

60 Martigioni		 Alfa-Romeo 1900Ti  3. TC up to 2500cc

					  Bristol			4. TC up to 2500cc

Race 3 12laps



   H.Glöckler		 Glöckler-Porsche   1. SC up to 1300cc	134,411km/h

 1 G.Thirion		  Gordini			2. SC up to 1300cc

   G.Oliver		   Porsche			1. SC up to 1600cc	140,384km/h

 5 B.Musy			 Maserati		   1. SC up to 2000cc	153,416km/h	2.

   J.Swaters		  Cooper-Bristol	 2. SC up to 2000cc

10 d’Hendecourt	   Ferrari			3. SC up to 2000cc

   F.Rouselle		 Triumph TR2		4. SC up to 2000cc

14 H.Roosdorp		 Ferrari			5. SC up to 2000cc

					  Ferrari			6. SC up to 2000cc

					  Veritas RS		 7. SC up to 2000cc

   Robert			 Triumph TR2		   SC up to 2000cc

12 J.Herzet		   Ferrari 166 MM/53	 SC up to 2000cc	DNS	  

20 H.Davis			Jaguar C		   1. SC over 2000cc	 153,609km/h	1.

   de Ridder		  Jaguar			 2. SC over 2000cc

   van Dieten		 Jaguar			 3. SC over 2000cc					5.

   C.Goethals		 Austin Healey	  4. SC over 2000cc

   Meunier			Jaguar				SC over 2000cc

					  Jaguar				SC over 2000cc

26 J.Blanc			Talbot T26GS		  SC over 2000cc	 dnf

29 O.Gendebien		Jaguar XK120		  SC over 2000cc

[RAP]

I have the following race times,
Race 1
1.Frere 1'10'37
2. Franssen 1'14'25
3 Pilette 1'14'55

Race 2
1. Frere 1'10'46
2 Martignoli 1'11'13
3 Stasse 1'11'28
NB 2nd & 3rd are reversed compared to Hugo's information. I would NOT guarantee the accuracy of mine.

Race 3
1. Davids 1'06'11.9
2. Musy 1'06'16.5
3. Swaters 1'08'21.0
Dietens' Jaguar is probably C type XKC 0019

[ERault]

Thank you very much. That brings to more questions, if I may :

- I did not know Swaters ran a Cooper-Bristol (apart for May Silverstone 1953 with a F2 car), any idea whose car was it ?

- Is it sure Glockler still has one of his specials in 1954 ? Maybe it was a Porsche 356 1300 ? By the way, if anyone is interested, Glockler's 1952 lovely special is for sale at auction.

[312 P]

It isn't a Formula 2.
It is the fourth car in the photo
Davis (Jaguar C), Musy (Masesati A6 GCS), Gendebien (Jaguar XK120), Swaters (Cooper Bristol), Jaguar C, Jaguar XK120

[raceannouncer2003]

Originally posted by ERault


- I did not know Swaters ran a Cooper-Bristol (apart for May Silverstone 1953 with a F2 car), any idea whose car was it ?

The Swaters-driven Cooper-Bristol was, apparently, the Bob Chase car, CB-4-52, that Mike Hawthorn drove in Formula 2 in 1952, and for 1953, completely rebuilt as a sports car and driven extensively by Alan Brown in 1953 and 1954. Apparently the car, as a sports car, was in France in recent years? Anybody know where it is now? It was discussed here:

http://forums.autosp...?postid=1503853

Vince H.

[ERault]

I agree, 312 P very nice picture points to Alan Brown's car. I don't know where the car is today, but I think it raced in the first Monaco historic GP.

[Peter Morley]

Originally posted by raceannouncer2003


The Swaters-driven Cooper-Bristol was, apparently, the Bob Chase car, CB-4-52, that Mike Hawthorn drove in Formula 2 in 1952, and for 1953, completely rebuilt as a sports car and driven extensively by Alan Brown in 1953 and 1954. Apparently the car, as a sports car, was in France in recent years? Anybody know where it is now? It was discussed here:

http://forums.autosp...?postid=1503853

Vince H.

It was sold in a French auction a few years ago (possibly together with a single seater that claimed the same origin).
It is now in Belgium (or somewhere pretty close).
It was on display at the Brussels Retro Festival a couple of years ago with some other Swaters cars.

[David McKinney]

Yes, Belgium is probably still right
It was sold at a Poulain le Fur auction in June 2003, and was being advertised for sale in Belgium the following year

[RAP]

From 312P's excellent picture, the Cooper Bristol looks like it has registration HPN 665, confirming its identity as the Ex-Hawthorn converted car. Also it can be seen that there is a second C type which is presumably Dietens. I hope this isn't a silly question but I wonder why the cars are going the "wrong way" ie uphill.

[Arjan de Roos]

Davis it's not, it is Hans Davids (NL) in the C-type (XKC006). He is often listed as the overall winner of the Grand Prix de Spa 1954.

[312 P]

It is definitely Dutch Davids who wins the 3rd running in 153.609 km/h average.

1st running by group :
4.0 l : André Pilette - Ford 135.702 km/h
5.0 l : Paul Frère - Chrysler 144.101 km/h (1st overall)

2nd running by group:
1.1 l : Weler - Panhard 118.821 km/h
1.6 l : Quernette - Peugeot 123.188 km/h
2.0 l : Paul Frère - Alfa Romeo 143.660 km/h (1st overall)

3rd Running by Group:
1.3 l : Glöcker - Porsche 134.411 km/h
1.6 l : Olivier -Porsche 140.384 km/h
2.0 l : Musy - Maserati A6 GCS 153.416 km/h
+2.0 l : Davids - Jaguar C-Type 153.609 km/h (1st overall)

[312 P]

it was written below by Hugo Boecker and RAP. I had not seen it. Sorry