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Rally road books/route instructions

Started by Terry Walker , Jan 27 2008 10:51

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#1 Terry Walker

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 10:51

Probably a dumb question but - does anybody collect or keep these ephemeral documents?

During my brief heyday I competed in about a dozen rallys of various levels from minor Club level to Western Australian State Championship level, and even organised one or two.

Yet I do not have any road book/route instructions from any of them. Not one. Long dumped.

As a minor motoring historian, this worries me a touch.

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#2 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 11:13

What a good thought!

Dakar 2003:

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#3 sterling49

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 11:17

No left at T's there Fred, or yellow over red or 90 rights :lol:

I was bloody hopeless in the lefthand seat, full of admiration for you guys that could keep your heads down (and your lunch :lol:

) whilst pandemonium and world war three was erupting around you :up:

How did you cope with the travel sickness thing?

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#4 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 11:31

Originally posted by sterling49

How did you cope with the travel sickness thing?

I was always sick on road rallies but gradually got better. Then the next time it happened was on a Baja Aragon (1 stage of 800kms!) where a clever team doctor put lemon juice in the drinks bottle! Every year thereafter I thought about that time and it happened again even without the lemon. So I started to pinch the little bags on aeroplanes.....

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#5 sterling49

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 11:55

Originally posted by Fred Gallagher

So I started to pinch the little bags on aeroplanes.....

Fred

Nice touch......with experience you learn when marshalling road events....to never lean on the door :lol:

I did it just the once........and of course we went on to do another control, and was out allnight long..... :rotfl:

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#6 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 12:21

And now Safari 1967:

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#7 Fred Gallagher

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 12:29

......and 1976 RAC:

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#8 RS2000

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 15:01

Won't duplicate 76 RAC but here's 75:

Kingsdown Warren about to be used again (on the Great Bustard Enduro) after many years.

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#9 RS2000

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 15:05

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#10 RS2000

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 15:11

Oldest RAC Roadbook in my posession

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#11 RS2000

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 15:15

Finding the village of Paschendale on the route was quite a disturbing/moving experience.

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#12 RS2000

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 15:30

[i]How did you cope with the travel sickness thing? [/B]

I can honestly say I was never sick navigating on a road rally or co-driving on a stage rally (or driving, it should go without saying, but I have heard of some...). I once felt a bit that way on a road rally (using the Pevensey Levels I think - see other thread!) when I had flu but Blackcurrant Spangles stopped it.
Confidence comes back to haunt us all though...
I've never been air sick (including a couple of experiences flying "nap of the earth" in RAF helicopters. I'd never been sea sick, including some appalling Channel crossings coming back from rallies....until a couple of years ago I ate breakfast on the fast Cat from Weymouth to Guernsey...oh, the ignominy of it...

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#13 RS2000

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 15:42

Originally posted by Fred Gallagher
......and 1976 RAC:
Fred

I guess you were through Speech House (SS2) before it was cancelled (not Makinen's roll but a German 911 hitting spectators standing in an escape road). They printed out a nice roadbook route amendment slip to get to the start of Serridge. Unfortunately the first mileage on it was hopelessly wrong. I knew the area more or less like "the back of my hand" and collected a tail of about 6 foreign crews at the first junction to lead them to SS3!

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#14 sterling49

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 15:43

Originally posted by RS2000

Finding the village of Paschendale on the route was quite a disturbing/moving experience.

Is that Robert Droogmans in one of Tony Maslen's Escorts?

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#15 sterling49

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 15:48

Originally posted by RS2000

I can honestly say I was never sick navigating on a road rally or co-driving on a stage rally (or driving, it should go without saying, but I have heard of some...). I once felt a bit that way on a road rally (using the Pevensey Levels I think - see other thread!) when I had flu but Blackcurrant Spangles stopped it.
Confidence comes back to haunt us all though...
I've never been air sick (including a couple of experiences flying "nap of the earth" in RAF helicopters. I'd never been sea sick, including some appalling Chanel crossings coming back from rallies....until a couple of years ago I ate breakfast on the fast Cat from Weymouth to Guernsey...oh, the ignominy of it...

hmmmn, I cured my navigation sickness, I stopped navigating and drove as I wanted to in the 1st place, I never used to get travel sick, but I went to Japan with the paper bag on my knee (all the way) and I had an awful ferry crossing from Southampton-Le Havre, I kid you not, dying would have been sooo much easier than finding my sea legs. :blush:

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#16 RS2000

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 16:06

Originally posted by sterling49

Is that Robert Droogmans in one of Tony Maslen's Escorts?

I think the answer to that is "yes", since the 82 paperwork would have carried 81 photos. It's quite complicated. In 82 and 83 Droogmans was run by Jeff Churchill, often in "NUG", the car now restored by Christophe Jacob. That was usually in Belga colours but not always, since Marc Duez had the major share of the Belga budget in 83 to run a Quattro. In 81 Tony Maslen ran Droogmans in Belga colours and Churchill ran Patrick Snijers. In 82 Maslen ran cars with the red of Belga replaced by blue (for Pentti Airikkala on Boucles de Spa, Haspengouw etc. and British Open and for others, like Cesar Baroni on Ypres when "YCD" was destroyed). Snijers ran a BMW with Bastos support in 82, then in 83 took over the Jean-Pierre Gaban 911 that Duez had used in 82 and the rest, as they say, is history.

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#17 GeoffR

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 20:10

A page from the 1967 BP Rally of South East Australia - complete with mud stains.

Not mine originally, but rescued when the person who was there was going to dispose of them on becoming a "grey nomad". I have most of them through to the last BP which was in 1974.

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#18 RS2000

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 20:27

I have no recollection as to why a TORCH was of significance (presumably my driver had lost the one in the car). What I do recall is that, when I passed through the TC at Lockerbie Ice Rink with the time cards, the driver and car were elsewhere with a headgasket change underway. Oh for the days when such things were just "rallymanship"...