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[wembi]

David's Indy race today clearly demonstrated why he is NEVER going to win the world championship.

1) Makes (let's all say it together) STUPID rookie mistakes every time he is in a leadership position. He either stalls at the start ( Brazil and Canada) or blately jump starts at the US GP. If the red light was too long, how come 20 other drivers , including Hakkinen and MS, DID NOT JUMP??? Doesn't this tell you something about the people who jump started today?

2)Coulthard suffers from what I call the " Damon Hill complex of inferiority". Instead of using his talents to be ahead and stay focused on playing his own game, David ( as well as Damon Hill in his days) spend most of their time and concetration , reacting to what Michael Schumacher is doing. The great ones like Prost, Senna, Mansell, Hakkinen and Schumacher didn't wait to see what their rivals were doing, but rather dictated the rules of the game. If you follow your opponents'game plan, you lose.

3) Coulthard doesn't get any respect in his team because of the stupid mistakes he makes every time he has a chance. At the start of the season, David was the team's best chance to win. Now Hakkinen has some 15 point advantage over him and that's not because Michael Schumacher fought DC harder earlier during the season.

4) I saw nothing wrong with DC's attics when MS came to lap him. Those of you out there who thought that DC was going to just let MS pass him easily, can be best described as NAIVE F1 fans. MS knew what DC was trying to do (besides DC had done it once before: Spa 98, remember?). MS was prepared and I certainly would have been to, if I was in MS's shoes. What I would have done though, would have been to wait till the next lap and pass DC on the front straight after slipstreaming him. But then again, that's MS is an F1 world champion and DC and I , are not! MS's move in Turn 1 was beatiful, bold and an emphatic statement to DC. It was almost as if MS was telling DC: " This is how WORLD champions do it! See ya!..."

So, in conclusion, the US GP was a nice event ( not great) and DC showed the whole world, once again, that he will always be the world's best # 2 driver...a little bit like Stirling Moss was with Fangio. But at least , Moss was a very talented and clever driver. The same can't be said about DC.


FORZA FERRARI!!!!!!!!!!! TWO MORE RACES AND I CAN OPEN THE BOTTLE OF WINE I HAVE BEEN SAVING FOR 21 YEARS!!!!!


Great job Michael and thanks for not crying again :-)

Nice second place Rubinho!

Wembi

[selena]

I think that Michael did very well to pass DC. I thought it was too tight at that point. He must be careful of DC in the future.

As I have said earlier, the WDC title will go between Michael and Mika for many years to come. No one can stop these two.

[Raelene]

wembi

if Michael wins in Suzuka (next race), you'll be able to open it then... I hope so

[Wolf]

I'm new in this forum, but I think it sacriligious to mention DC with SCM in the same breath (come to think of it, the same sentence would be too). Even our 2xWDC, Mika, has barely passed him on account of wins (by the way Moss started 66 GP events, how many were it for Mika?). Moss 'sat behind' Fangio- but he learned from The Master; does DC learn? Even on FORIX, in driver classification where championships are scored as races, Moss has 33 points (4x2 + 3x3), whilst Mika has 20 (2x1). Mika doesn't compare, how could a man who's playing a second fiddle for him (and wrecks his cars in pits)?

P.S. Guess from which forum I dropped in.

[wembi]

You are right, Raelene...but please, don't get me all excited already. By the way,I almost opened it up today when Hakkinen's car was on FIRE!!!!! It took A LOT of will power not open it :-)

I decided not open the bottle of wine because I want MS to beat MH on the track, fair and square, otherwise it would be like DC's win at Monaco this year where he took credit for MS's car problems...ahh that DC! He should have his head examined.

Although I am glad MS won today, I must admit that there was a bit of a let down feeling when Hakkinen retired. He definetly would have put up a great fight for this inaugural US GP. Unlike the second place qualifier who by the way, needed HELP yesterday to get to that now in famous second place starting position ( oh! to those who claim that MS did the same with RB, I 'm afraid you weren't wacthing the qualifying session. MS had already set Pole position ON HIS OWN-no slipstreaming AND MS WENT OUT TO HELP RB QUALIFY BETTER. But RB failed to use the slipstream proprely! That's a fact!)


The bottle of wine will be ready in Japan. It's honestly 21 years old. So...WHO WANTS SOME????? :-)

Wembi

[mason]

The wine doesn't get opened until we've passed tech inspection at Malaysia. But it's coming folks. It's the playoffs and this is the right time to get hot. I can't see it going bad now.

Michael world champion!!!
Ferrari world champion!!!
In the same year!!!!!!!!!

This year will kill a lot of ghosts; they won because everyone else was weak, they won because of others misfortune, they won because they got lucky, they won because the FIA smiled on them, they won because..... I don't know, maybe the devil was on their side. I love you Brock Yates, but,up yours nevertheless

No bullshit this year, when they win it's because they beat MB and McLaren straight up!

Forsa Ferrari!

[Horse]

Bingo on DC .... he is really becoming rather pathetic ... he was even mentioning that the lights were "on longer than usual" although he did not blame his false start on it.

Oh and also, notice that MS did not give DC the finger as he pass him as Dc did in France.

[MacFan]

Originally posted by wembi
David's Indy race today clearly demonstrated why he is NEVER going to win the world championship.

1) Makes (let's all say it together) STUPID rookie mistakes every time he is in a leadership position. He either stalls at the start ( Brazil and Canada) or blately jump starts at the US GP. If the red light was too long, how come 20 other drivers , including Hakkinen and MS, DID NOT JUMP??? Doesn't this tell you something about the people who jump started today?

Your hero Schumacher isn't averse to the occasional stall when the pressure's on (see Suzuka 97,98)

2)Coulthard suffers from what I call the " Damon Hill complex of inferiority". Instead of using his talents to be ahead and stay focused on playing his own game, David ( as well as Damon Hill in his days) spend most of their time and concetration , reacting to what Michael Schumacher is doing. The great ones like Prost, Senna, Mansell, Hakkinen and Schumacher didn't wait to see what their rivals were doing, but rather dictated the rules of the game. If you follow your opponents'game plan, you lose.

Agreed, but Hill did win the WDC

3) Coulthard doesn't get any respect in his team because of the stupid mistakes he makes every time he has a chance. At the start of the season, David was the team's best chance to win. Now Hakkinen has some 15 point advantage over him and that's not because Michael Schumacher fought DC harder earlier during the season.

The reasons why DC is not as favoured at McLaren as Mika is run somewhat deeper than your "analysis"

4) I saw nothing wrong with DC's attics when MS came to lap him. Those of you out there who thought that DC was going to just let MS pass him easily, can be best described as NAIVE F1 fans. MS knew what DC was trying to do (besides DC had done it once before: Spa 98, remember?). MS was prepared and I certainly would have been to, if I was in MS's shoes. What I would have done though, would have been to wait till the next lap and pass DC on the front straight after slipstreaming him. But then again, that's MS is an F1 world champion and DC and I , are not! MS's move in Turn 1 was beatiful, bold and an emphatic statement to DC. It was almost as if MS was telling DC: " This is how WORLD champions do it! See ya!..."

Funny, it looked a lot like DC's pass on MS in France to me...

[miniman]

What happened to DC? he used to be a nice gentlemanly racer and pretty good too. These past couple of years his attitude has gone nasty but his driving isn't getting any better.

By the way, Schummi said in the post race interview that they touched wheels.

[wembi]

Mason...you are right. I completly forgot Ron Dennis's Tech Inspection Team in Malaysia will be waiting for the Ferrari team to arrive. I'm sure it will be like meeting old friends. Bummer...are you telling me I'll have to wait 10 days after the season is over to officially open my bottle of wine? :-)

Horse, DC would have wanted to use that Magic finger again, but he had already done two stupid things for the day ( jump/start and getting passed by Shuey before Hakkinen had a crack at MS). Ron Dennis told him by radio that he (DC) had reached his quota of stupid things for the day. :-)
FORZA FERRARI!!!!!


W.

[wembi]

Your hero Schumacher isn't averse to the occasional stall when the pressure's on
(see Suzuka 97,98)

McFan??? WHAT PRESSURE WOULD DC BE UNDER??? IT'S NOT LIKE HE WAS RUNNING FOR THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE OR IS HE???

In both races you picked to validate your argument, MS was ACTUALLY contending for the title in those races. The pressure was MUCH HIGHER in MS's case. DC was clearly playing second fiddle to MH at the USGP today...and he can't even handle THAT job well!!

As to your comment on MS'a pass being similar to DC's pass in France...I have only one comment: NO middle finger was shown to DC!!! That's called " class" :-)

FORZA FERRARI!!!!


W.

[FerrariFanInTexas]

Hey, don't sweat the Malaysian Inspection Team. As long as Schumacher wins in Japan, he wins the Title.

With a Schumacher win and a Hakkinen second place in Japan, then even with a DNF or DQ in Malaysia and a Hakkinen win there, Michael would still win, 98 points to 96 points.

One more win and the Celebration can truly begin! Let's make it happen in Japan....

Avanti Ferrari!

[MacFan]

DC didn't stall at the US GP. When he stalled at Canada, he was under pressure as he was fighting for the lead of the WDC. I don't know what you mean by him stalling at Brazil, the Brazilian race I saw only had Wurz stalling at the start.

Anyway, the point was that all the leading drivers make mistakes - did MS not spin in yesterday's race while cruising with a huge lead? Oh sorry i forgot, only DC is to be criticised for his mistakes

[mountain dude]

i wouldnt open a 21 year old bottle of wine. better get some decent stuff. use that old bottle next time you need to leave an urine sample.

md

[lomond]

Wembi.

You should be very happy, your hero MS won the race. And. he won the race fair and square.Rubins was second. A Ferrari one - two.
Why are you getting your wee head so out of shape over David Coulthard. And, the pass that you are talking about was basically the same pass Coulthard pulled off on Schumacher at France.
I think you will be celebrating with your 21 year old bottle of wine, for it looks pretty good for Schuie, and Ferrari to take it all. I do not support Ferrari or Schumacher, but they have worked hard and deserve the WDC & the WCC. However, when you open your bottle of 21 year old wine, please swallow 30 to 40 sleeping pills prior to drinking it.
You are such a f---ing little whinner.
Have a good one.

[baddog]

whooa there iomond, NO need for that sort of thing.. your post was all fair comment but with that sleeping pill line you are a long way out of line.

Shaun

[G-R]

Originally posted by lomond
head so out of shape over David Coulthard.

hehehe, classic quote If you get it of course;)

[dooly]

Originally posted by wembi
MS knew what DC was trying to do (besides DC had done it once before: Spa 98, remember?).

What did DC do in Spa 98? Mika was nowhere in sight (as contact with MS had spun him out at La Source). DC knew MS was coming to overtake and was prepared to let him pass, MS couldn't see properly in the rain/DC's spray and went right into the back of DC's car. MS accuses DC of trying to kill him, when he should have possibly picked a better place to overtake! (considering the conditions and that he obviously couldn't see much in front of him)

I hope we're not saying DC did that on purpose to take points from MS. I'm sure he values his life just a little!

[baddog]

dooly, we are way off topic here I guess but in spa98, ms WAS NOT TRYING TO OVERTAKE when the crash occured.

DC slowed on the line in a bungled attempt to let ms past, MS continued his normal pace. DCs change of pace caused the incident, MS did nothing except jink to the left at the last moment when he saw DCs car through the spray.

Shaun

[TheDestroyer]

Selena,

I agree that Schumi's pass was a tight one but I really think he did it that way to make a statement to DC... Was it smart? Probably not considering the championship was riding on Schumi winning but then again that's Schumi

[BuzzingHornet]

Sorry but this is a complete BS thread, and I don't even support DC..!



Come on Wembi, DC is only doing what he is paid to do, there is no question of 'blame' cos he hasn't done anything!

1) 'every time'?? Hardly!
2) Rubbish! Senna and Prost/Mansell & EVERYONE were OBSESSED with what the other was doing!
3) not exactly, he gets bags of respect for being such a doormat
4) Schumacher was passing him not lapping him. He lapped him very easily later in the race at the pitstops
[p][Edited by BuzzingHornet on 09-25-2000]