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[Herbert]

If I'm not mistaken three Porsche 908/3 were converted to turbo-power for the 1975 season. The first was the famous 008 of Reinhold Joest, the second was the Martini-Dannesberger car and the third was the car of Ben Heiderich.
Joest used his car until the early 80s. But what happened to the other two cars? According to my sources both belonged to Egon Evertz in 1976. Is this correct? The Heiderich car was only raced at Mugello as #7. Any pictures of that car? Is this the same car that Evertz raced in the Interserie in late 1975 and at Le Mans in 1976?

The Ex-Martini-Dannesberger car is the one raced by Evertz in Dijon in 1976 (#14) as their bodywork is identical. But what about his second car (#12) there? Was this the Le Mans car which had a different bodywork? Any pictures?

BTW who is Hermann Dannesberger?

[mx906]

The others were 007 and 013. I believe that Egon Evertz owned both. Herbie Mueller died driving the latter.

Jerry

[Norman Jones]

Herbie Muller's death at the Nurburgring 1,000 km of 1981 was in the car owned and raced by Dr Siggi Brun. As far as I am aware this was his own car. It later was rebuilt and appeared in Thundersports races here in Britain in 1983, with Derek Bell and Desire Wilson co-driving, run, I think by Paul Howarth

At Oulton Park in that year Brun had two 908 in the paddock, the other was in Gulf livery but unraced.

Hope this helps

[Herbert]

If I'm not mistaken one of the Brunn cars was the normally aspirated 908 of Joest. I think it was the he entered in 1980.

Which of the Evertz turbo cars was later owned by Siggi Brunn? I think Herbie Müller had is accident in chassis 13. was this the ex Martini-car which Müller already raced in 1975?

In 1982 Brunn also bought the Joest-908/4 which I think was the faithfull 008.

[Wouter Melissen]

Jean Marc Luco campaigns a turbocharged 908 in Europe with the chassis number 908-03-011. It is entered under the type indication 908/4.

[Allen Brown]

I'm coming to this a bit late but I hope Herbert, mx906 and Norman are still watching.

I agree three cars were converted and that one was Joest's existing car, one was for Dannesberger and came from the Porsche Museum and the third was for the Spaniard Heiderich but never reappeared after that first race at Mugello 23 Mar 1975.

Firstly, what were the chassis numbers of these cars. I read different numbers in different places. I'd like to know where mx906's chassis numbers come from.

The Heiderich car goes to Evertz first as Autosport Dijon 1976 report says Evertz’ car is "the turbo-charged Porsche 908/3 seen briefly at the beginning of last year and then not seen again". So this must be the car Evertz had used in Interserie late 1975. Then Evertz acquires a second 908/3 and Autosport calls this the "ex-Dessenberger Porsche 908-turbo". I presume they mean Dannesberger.

So of the three turbo conversions, Joest has one in 1976 and Evertz the other two. The fourth 908 at Dijon was Joest's non-turbo car; I don't know the number of that either.

But then Evertz stops racing at the end of 1976. A recent auction catalogue (reproduced across the web) places chassis 007 with Fernandez in 1973 (should be 1972), then to Evertz (implying Heiderich's car was Fernandez's which is plausible) and then to Bill Bradley (the German-based Englishman). This all seems fine but Martin Krejci - who I trust - has 013 as Fernandez's car. Both can't be right.

Then Kremer Racing has a turbo for Wollek in Interserie in 1978 and then Sigi Brunn has a turbo later. The "908 The Long Distance Runner" book says Joest kept his car so does that mean Kremer and Brunn must have had the second ex-Evertz car?

My head is starting to hurt. Hasn't there been a book or article sorting all this out?

Allen