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#51 mba21

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 21:39

Apparently we had an airfield called Bournemouth (Hurn) airport close by but we never used to mix it 50/50 with pump petrol !! :blush:

I totally believe you :rotfl: :rotfl:
I also did hear rumours of the proddy boys getting there carbs bored oval,and putting expansion pipes inside the std pipes ......................as if

Edited by mba21, 25 January 2010 - 21:41.


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#52 kerrowmoar

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 22:48

lollypop sticks holding airboxes open on quick release pieces of string(for the run down laps apparantly)

tz cranks?

i remember being blitzed on the revett straight by a junker of an lc whilst on my state of the art TZR250.............explain that one Mr *********

:eek: :eek: :( :lol: :lol:

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#53 MickJones

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 23:10

Hands up all those who never used Avgas :rolleyes:

:clap: Me and that's the truth, in retrospect i wish i had now, it would have been a hell of alot easier.

#54 MickJones

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 23:15

There was a story going around the paddock that a certain 250 LC rider used to tap novice's on the shoulder when going around coram curve..... :eek: :eek:

Yep i believe it, i'm not being a kill joy but there is a time and a place for messing about and the track isn't it. I witnessed it first hand in 81 and it led to the death of Mike Downes. Hope i havn't put a dampener on the convo but it happened right in front of me and could have easily been avoided with a little common sense. Sorry.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:04

lollypop sticks holding airboxes open on quick release pieces of string(for the run down laps apparantly)

tz cranks?

i remember being blitzed on the revett straight by a junker of an lc whilst on my state of the art TZR250.............explain that one Mr *********

:eek: :eek: :( :lol: :lol:


Hi Brendon :wave: Bailey is only 6 *s!  ;)

#56 kerrowmoar

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 10:45

Hi Brendon :wave: Bailey is only 6 *s! ;)


Wotcha Nige :wave:

You mean there was more than one questionable LC????????????????????????????

Well i never,at least someone could have told me :eek:

Never mind we still had plenty of fun stuffing the open class boys :) :) (joke,before i get an earfull :p )

Apparantly your allowed to use the electric start once you give the open boys a three pace headstart(especially when your on the inside at brands trying to push up that bloody hill)

(Spose id better admit i bought a 96 TZ250 last week and i absolutely love it.......sounds and smells just like a racebike should.)

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#57 mba21

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 11:19

Wotcha Nige :wave:

You mean there was more than one questionable LC????????????????????????????

Well i never,at least someone could have told me :eek:

Never mind we still had plenty of fun stuffing the open class boys :) :) (joke,before i get an earfull :p )

Apparantly your allowed to use the electric start once you give the open boys a three pace headstart(especially when your on the inside at brands trying to push up that bloody hill)

(Spose id better admit i bought a 96 TZ250 last week and i absolutely love it.......sounds and smells just like a racebike should.)

Now thats a real racer just love that bit ..........................sounds and smells just like a racebike should
Even though it gave me tinnitus I loved my racing days

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 19:34

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Surprised nobody got these two 11 is Gary Thrush 64 is Andy Green

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 19:45

Surprised nobody got these two 11 is Gary Thrush 64 is Andy Green

I was just about to say that :rotfl: :rotfl:

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#60 kerrowmoar

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 19:55

Melen has it over the furthest though,nice style

where is it ?

#61 Snetterton-b17

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 19:56

Melen has it over the furthest though,nice style

where is it ?

I think it's Mallory Park !!

#62 kerrowmoar

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 20:01

thats what i thought

dont recognize the big bank in the backround though

headbutted a few in my time,maybe thats why :lol:


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Posted 26 January 2010 - 20:02

thats what i thought

dont recognize the big bank in the backround though

headbutted a few in my time,maybe thats why :lol:

Lake esses by the look of it !!

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 20:14

Lake esses by the look of it !!

It is Mallory Lake esses 84

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 20:17

It is Mallory Lake esses 84

I was there for the Marlboro Clubmans Round.....Which this is not....A New Era meeting i think ?

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 21:03

I was there for the Marlboro Clubmans Round.....Which this is not....A New Era meeting i think ?

Racing Clubmans 26-8-1984

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 07:25

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 20:40

Yep i believe it, i'm not being a kill joy but there is a time and a place for messing about and the track isn't it. I witnessed it first hand in 81 and it led to the death of Mike Downes. Hope i havn't put a dampener on the convo but it happened right in front of me and could have easily been avoided with a little common sense. Sorry.

Sorry Mick I was there to and i had no intention of bring back old memories....and i won't bring the subject up again.... ):

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 20:41

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Howard Selby & Eric McFarlane !!

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 21:35

Howard Selby & Eric McFarlane !!

why o why do i put them on !! well done lol


#71 MickJones

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 00:42

Sorry Mick I was there to and i had no intention of bring back old memories....and i won't bring the subject up again.... ):

No problem Snett, in the old days it just seemed like a lark but i just knew it would end in tears that day, it was getting out of hand. It opened my eyes a bit and i think i grew up a bit that day.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 11:38

Hi Vtwinmad, I did a bit of Production racing in 1980/81 on a Ducati 900SS that my employers (Three Cross Motorcycles) let me use.The starts then were at the flagdrop and everyone (except me !) pressing their start buttons.The Ducati was kickstart only and if you timed it right you could swing on the kickstart and almost simultaneously bang it into first.If you got it right then you could get away with the leaders, get it wrong and you would be stuck on the line, desperatley trying to find neutral and Compression !
Mind you , when I was racing the Open Class on my P&M Suzuki, they were all push starts and above the eerie silence that was a second after the flag fell and everyone was pushing, it was amazing how many starter motors you could hear from the proddie bikes alongside ! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Hi steve, hope you are not pointing any fingers !!! LoL. I must admit the old starter thumb did used to get a bit twitchy in the open class races, it was very difficult to control ! but then we were giving away a lot of horsepower & running on road tyres. The worst example of this I could remember, was a friend of mine racing a ducati proddie bike in the open class, using the kickstart. That really was a bit obvious !!


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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:47

I remember Roger Marchant (unless age is catching up with me); turned up at Brands one day for a free day of clubby racing, and Roger was running in the open class on the 'straight bar' Kwaka Z1000, a basically standard Z with wide, flat bars just so he could hang on to the thing.

Watched him wrestle with this 'all power, no handling' monster for lap after lap, and stood there with my mouth hanging open, watching him hanging on for dear life while the bike bucked, kicked and weaved through Paddock was awe inspiring; for the next race, I got into the pits and stood in the back paddock to watch him go through the left/right Surtees to McLarens, the bike getting more out of shape with every lap.

I'm pretty sure he won both races outright, but he certainly did beat the Katanas, no mean feat considering the Suzuki handled much better.

Now someone will tell me it wasn't Roger Marchant at all, but I certainly remember that bike, sponsored by Boyers of Bromley, local Kwaka dealers.


I'm new to this, I can remember him very well, I raced at the same time, TZ250 Yam, between races I went out to watch the guys go around. Roger was on the grid and his Z1000 stopped, all the grid left him standing. Roger got it going, wheelied off the line and he went for it, I remember he wasn't last at the end of the race.

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 08:15

Ah, yes, I remember watching Mark Plato racing, and his brother. I don't think Mark's brother was named Julian, but I could be wrong. I saw them only as they 'flew' round the track. I may have some old programmes from Brands or Snetterton in the loft. Haven't looked for years, but I used to collect them, noting my son's progress as he started with the orange jacket and eventually won some 1300 Proddy races. Mark Linscott, if still around, would remember him.


Mark Linscott, Steve Veasy, John Lambert, Phil Robinson, Pat Holland these are some of the names I remember from that time, I have all the progs at home in Spain, when I get back I will look them out.

Mark is running a race school I believe, another name that just come into my head is Darren Dixon

Anymore pictures of that time I

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 15:40

anyone out there remember these names from the time? :confused:
Graham Marchant
Roger Marchant (no relation)
Steve (Smooth) Burrows
Mark Plato

remember it as a very well contested era,lots of different machinery
Suzuki Katanas
Suzuki GSX1100
Kawasaki GPZ900
Kawasaki GPZ1100
Honda CB900
Honda CB1100R



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Posted 09 November 2010 - 16:06

Hi all,first time on here so a few years behind! Yes used to race with all these guys and afew more names you might recall,MARK PLATO,DAVE BURFORD ,GRAHAM MARCHANT,SIMON SLOAN,STEVE BONHOMME,VINCE FIELD,ROLAND BROWN,DEREK LEE,NEIL SPALDING(now motoGP technical guru)TED BUNTON,JOHN DAVIES,GUY MURSH,ANDY KEY,DAVE GOODLEY,DAVE PICKNELL,RAY KNIGHT,RICKY McMILLAN,ZAN MARSEILLE,and more!Was good friends with most of these guys and had some great races and beers in the kentagon and snetterton bar! still talk to ricky mcmillan and zan marseille.also remember a few of the LC guys cos raced 81/82 on LCs and did marlboro series 82/84/85 on different motorcycles,will download a few pics when i figure it out! Jeff Donovan

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Posted 13 November 2010 - 10:29

My first race bike was a Proddy bike. It was a Suzuki GT250 X7.

For its time it was wickedly fast, but ground clearance was not one of its strongest points. I remember grinding a hole in one one the very fat expansion chambers on dunlop loop at Amaroo Park.

I had my first race, and my first crash all in the same meeting.






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Posted 13 November 2010 - 18:56

The name Andy key brings back memories, I remember having a right old ding dong with him at Cadwell Park in about 82, he was on a CB1100R and i was on a TZ350, neither of us was going to give in, he was quicker than me around Chris curve and I had the advantage on the brakes into the hairpin.

I eventually rammed him going into the hairpin on the last lap when he closed the door on me to stop me nipping down the inside, we both stayed on but another guy nipped through and won it.

I went to apologise after the race but he was laughing about it and said it was the most enjoyable race he'd had that day.

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Posted 13 November 2010 - 20:47

There was a guy racing an ex Honda Britain (Wayne Gardner IIRC) CB1100RC,he had won a years loan of it by finishing well in a championship the previuos season.
I seem to recall he might have been a policeman from Aylesbury .....
I remember it being handed back a little worse for wear


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Posted 15 November 2010 - 18:27

The name Andy key brings back memories, I remember having a right old ding dong with him at Cadwell Park in about 82, he was on a CB1100R and i was on a TZ350, neither of us was going to give in, he was quicker than me around Chris curve and I had the advantage on the brakes into the hairpin.

I eventually rammed him going into the hairpin on the last lap when he closed the door on me to stop me nipping down the inside, we both stayed on but another guy nipped through and won it.

I went to apologise after the race but he was laughing about it and said it was the most enjoyable race he'd had that day.
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Ah Andy Key he has written of more bikes than Dave Croxford CB1100r,s GPZ,s he didn,t care he just got his sponsor to buy a new one!!!!!!!

this one is at the bombhole at snett!!!!!!



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Posted 15 November 2010 - 23:58

kkkk

There was a guy racing an ex Honda Britain (Wayne Gardner IIRC) CB1100RC,he had won a years loan of it by finishing well in a championship the previuos season.
I seem to recall he might have been a policeman from Aylesbury .....
I remember it being handed back a little worse for wear


Yes I remember him, he got the bike for "Winning" the Brands Hatch Racing school, I came 3rd that day. I took up Proddy Racing on a Stan Stephens Yamaha LC350.

#82 MickJones

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 17:44

The name Andy key brings back memories, I remember having a right old ding dong with him at Cadwell Park in about 82, he was on a CB1100R and i was on a TZ350, neither of us was going to give in, he was quicker than me around Chris curve and I had the advantage on the brakes into the hairpin.

I eventually rammed him going into the hairpin on the last lap when he closed the door on me to stop me nipping down the inside, we both stayed on but another guy nipped through and won it.

I went to apologise after the race but he was laughing about it and said it was the most enjoyable race he'd had that day.

Ah Andy Key he has written of more bikes than Dave Croxford CB1100r,s GPZ,s he didn,t care he just got his sponsor to buy a new one!!!!!!!

this one is at the bombhole at snett!!!!!!

Lol, yeah Ricky, Andy was a bit of a lad wasn't he. How you feeling mate? :wave:

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 11:26

Lol, yeah Ricky, Andy was a bit of a lad wasn't he. How you feeling mate? :wave:

I am ok Mick getting bored of sitting around .Itried to post a picture on the last post but it did not work so i will try again or maybe get a 6 year old to do it for me !.The leg is healing ok its just going to take time i get the fixator off in April and then i can start to try and walk properly .

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 15:18

I am ok Mick getting bored of sitting around .Itried to post a picture on the last post but it did not work so i will try again or maybe get a 6 year old to do it for me !.The leg is healing ok its just going to take time i get the fixator off in April and then i can start to try and walk properly .

Best of luck mate :up:

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 16:05

The name Andy key brings back memories, I remember having a right old ding dong with him at Cadwell Park in about 82, he was on a CB1100R and i was on a TZ350, neither of us was going to give in, he was quicker than me around Chris curve and I had the advantage on the brakes into the hairpin.

I eventually rammed him going into the hairpin on the last lap when he closed the door on me to stop me nipping down the inside, we both stayed on but another guy nipped through and won it.

I went to apologise after the race but he was laughing about it and said it was the most enjoyable race he'd had that day.



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Posted 17 November 2010 - 17:39

Good one Ricky, glad your on the mend slow process that it is.! :well:

#87 kerrowmoar

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 20:20

Think you could say that one was beyond the point of no return :)

GWS Ricky

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 20:49

kkkk


Yes I remember him, he got the bike for "Winning" the Brands Hatch Racing school, I came 3rd that day. I took up Proddy Racing on a Stan Stephens Yamaha LC350.


In, I think, 1983 I got to the Brands Hatch Racing finals (didn't finish near the top, but it was wet and I didn't fall off so I wasn't last either!) which were won by a bloke called Bill Doughtry or something like that, a Welsh postman, who got a CB1100R as the prize - I've got a photo somewhere. Anyone remember him?

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 20:29

2 nice period shots found on facebook
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 23:14

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2 nice period shots found on facebook
AND ONE MORE!!!
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 17:42

2 more periods shots Mark Plato from Romford
Streetmachine of Collier Row sponsored him....
pics from facebook

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 00:13

Look closely at the marshal in the background on the top pic above, this could make an interesting caption competition :)

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 02:02

Look closely at the marshal in the background on the top pic above, this could make an interesting caption competition :)



Ministry of Silly Walks?

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 10:46

Ministry of Silly Walks?


Or 'dancing to the Katana beat became popular in the 80's and live concerts were held, sadly though attendances were poor'

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 10:55

Look closely at the marshal in the background on the top pic above, this could make an interesting caption competition :)

Yuk ! Where is the cement dust ? Thought animals including dogs were not allowed into circuits ? ):

#96 Paul Collins

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 18:49

'Hey Sid stop doing the goose step every time that guy on the Beemer goes past, its getting embarrassing'

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 18:55

You just watch me hop over the barrier :blush:

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 11:40

Hi there
Just adding a few pics and names to this one. The first one is of myself at Snetterton in 1978 at the end of the back straight.

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This is a pic of myself and Grant Goodings that was taken after the endurance race at West Raynham on the 2nd of September 1979. We came second in the 250 class. If you look on page 13 of the topic 'Help can you identify these 70/80s riders' No 72 in pic 4 is me and in pic 3 No 85 is Kevin Mitchell who won the 250 class.

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The riders in this one are myself, Colin Pole, Steve Trasler, Micky Downs, Trevor Clow and Mark Ordidge.

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This one was taken the same day and the rider behind me is Nat Wood on the HQ Fibre 'Quest' Suzuki. It was a Nick Parravani frame with a bored out GS750 motor and Nat went well on it.

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This was taken at West Raynham on the 21st of September 1980 at the long sweep before the start line over the helipad.

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Hope they bring back a few memories for some of you. I'll post up some LC pics soon.

Stuart Matthews



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Posted 27 December 2010 - 14:53

:wave: Hi Stu, nice to see your still kicking mate, great pics. :clap:

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 17:36

Hi Mick
Have you still got all that lovely hair ? It's been good to see a few names again and some pictures that otherwise you may never had seen. What are you up to these days ? Me it's mortgage, kids, cat and a local job with the bonus of parading a replica here and abroad, that I took four years to build, but having a good time now it's all done. Just for fun I have put it on the road as well. 18000 RPM and lots of noise ! I've put in a couple of pics of it in road trim and on the track at Croix en Ternois which Bemsee used at sometime. Good to hear from you.

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