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picblanc, on Dec 27 2010, 18:05, said:
Lovely bike!! Excellent photos.
Nice set of Hein Gericke leathers too I have set in those colours, dont think I will ever get in them again though!!
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 11:11
RC162, on Dec 28 2010, 08:26, said:
Hi there
It made for a quick lap and I was lucky enough to get a win over the weekend. The other three races were won by Pat Moony. They were close races with Cliffton Tabiner, Eddie Boldizar, Paul Grubb, John Hogg and a lad who's name was Tipple. I won mine when it rained during the race otherwise I think Pat would have cleaned up.
Stuart
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 10:41
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Paul Collins, on Dec 30 2010, 16:41, said:
He certainly was very quick Paul, i'd be interested to know his history after 1980 when I got to know him well(I had his 79 bike) and only just managed to grab the BRC 250 proddy title off him(I was 2nd in 79). He was from Leicester way I believe and quite a devout christian, had a nice sister as wellColin Pole!! he was a flyer, he also used to give us a hard time on our TZ's in the open class on his proddie bike.
I remember one year he graduated to a TZ and I expected him to really go places but for some reason he didnt seem to get on with it and just disappeared from the scene after that, I often wondered what the story was with him.
Posted 30 December 2010 - 22:21
MickJones, on Dec 30 2010, 20:40, said:
He certainly was very quick Paul, i'd be interested to know his history after 1980 when I got to know him well(I had his 79 bike) and only just managed to grab the BRC 250 proddy title off him(I was 2nd in 79). He was from Leicester way I believe and quite a devout christian, had a nice sister as well
Posted 30 December 2010 - 22:30
RC162, on Dec 29 2010, 09:16, said:
StuartHi there
Yes Martin Edwards ' Wobbly Willy ' If ever there was a guy who ran close to the edge it was him. I liked him a lot and we were good friends. He was quite aggressive with his engines but it stayed together most of the time. I remember at the start of one race when the engines were turned off him shouting out at the top of his voice " Now then boys I want a nice gentle ride and don't go too quick " He is a lad. Some years back he went to collect a lorry for a ' friend ' from France but at the French border they found a bit more than fresh air in the chassis and Martin did about 10 years in a French jail but at least he can speak French of a different kind now. I think he's living in Norwich at the moment.
Can you let me know your name LCRider ?
Stuart
Edited by LCRider, 30 December 2010 - 22:36.
Posted 30 December 2010 - 22:38
LCRider, on Dec 30 2010, 22:21, said:
Mick,
He raced a Single cylinder Yamaha for a while and maybe a Bantam
I am not sure that he went any further than a 250 LC
Posted 30 December 2010 - 23:14
Paul Collins, on Dec 30 2010, 23:38, said:
I was having a weekend off from riding and went marshalling at Cadwell one day around 1980/81ish, he was out on a Maxton TZ, I cant remember if it was a 250 or a 350, he was mid field at best in his early races and then I picked him up after he binned it at Charlies later in the day.
Having witnessed his talents on proddies I expected him to get dialled in and be right up there after a couple of meetings but I heard later in the year that he'd given up with the TZ as he couldnt get on with it, I think he went back to a proddie but I never really heard any more of him after that.
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 02:42
burton500, on Dec 30 2010, 11:41, said:
Great to be reminded of some of the names in the early 80's proddy racing scene. I was in the 500 class on a RD400, and Colin Pole was the one to beat in the clubs I was in.
I was in the Bantam Racing club (anyone remember the annual p*ss up at the end of year dinner?), British Formula Racing Club, and the Southern 67 club. Looks like they all disappeared without trace at some point. I take it Bemsee is the main club still surviving?
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 08:55
LCRider, on Dec 30 2010, 22:30, said:
Stuart
I am Paul Lancaster I used to live in Attleborough but have married and live north of Norwich. I raced for 2 full seasons in 84 and 85.
I marshalled for several years before that.
I was part of the crew that had Alan Howlett and his wife Maureen plus a few other lads (George and wife Kate. + Howard (who had a bus!) We tended to do Sear and Russell @ Snetterton or The Hairpin at Cadwell, so not sure if we ever picked you up.
I then comentated at Bemsee mettings - I once commentated at a Racing 50 meeting and it turned wet. I was racing too so it got a bit perculiar!! My mechanic - Stan - put my wets on for the last race but because I wasn't thinking straight I forgot to top up with fuel. I was in a batch of 3 or so guys scrapping for a top 6 place and catching the guys in front (who were running KR124/TG22 combos) and ran out of fuel at Riches on the last lap Bugger!!
I liked Wobbly but I was never sure about when he was serious and when he wasn't. I think he was the guy who (on a wet Snetterton meeting) Began to sing "singing in the rain" after the engines had been switched off before the lights changed - caused a lot of chuckles and presumably he got away first.....
He was a hard rider but there were a lot of them in those days, Askins, Allot, Langan, Boldizar, Rymer, Melen. It was the last yrs of the Yamaha domination before Suzukis return with the RGV.
Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:13
MickJones, on Dec 30 2010, 19:40, said:
He certainly was very quick Paul, i'd be interested to know his history after 1980 when I got to know him well(I had his 79 bike) and only just managed to grab the BRC 250 proddy title off him(I was 2nd in 79). He was from Leicester way I believe and quite a devout christian, had a nice sister as well
Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:36
Robin127, on Dec 31 2010, 03:42, said:
During the early 80's I travelled to races with a bunch of friends and I was the only one who didn't ride a production bike, maybe because I was slightly older and a bit more sensible
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More than once I slept on the floor of a certain race secretary's house in Rothwell follwing the Bantam Club dinner....and more than once did I see a certain contributor to this thread in a slightly "happy" state at the same do's...although I never got that way myself...no, not me
Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:48
RC162, on Dec 31 2010, 10:13, said:
Hi Mick
...... When I started riding her Mum and Dad were both riding production at the time. I know that they moved to the I.O.M. and sadly Hillary was one of the marshalls that was injured when a local lad from Attleborough crashed on the mountain in 2009 and he and a spectator sadly died. I had heard since that Hillary was making a good recovery. Lets hope so.
Edited by Rennmax, 31 December 2010 - 09:59.
Posted 31 December 2010 - 15:32
Rennmax, on Dec 31 2010, 09:48, said:
http://news.bbc.co.u...000/8726137.stm
I remember her riding in the F3 at the TT in '78
Cheers
Posted 31 December 2010 - 15:45
burton500, on Dec 31 2010, 09:36, said:
Jane managed to find me and my then wife a spare bed once we were on the committee, how the rich and famous live. Jane and Chris Walpole even spent some time with us on our wedding night(behave yourselves), they stayed at the same Hotel after the "do" and we had a bottle of champagne left over so we carried on with the party. It was a good day and full of racing people. Jimmy Webb was my best man and Kieth Webb, Kieth Wray, Steve Trasler, John Oldfield, Mark Strong and Ron and Josie curtis were all there.Yep, I seem to recall Paul Siddons very much the worse for wear at Jane Andrew's house. Sleeping space was at a premium, and I'm sure it was Paul who kipped in the bath.
Posted 31 December 2010 - 18:17
RC162, on Dec 31 2010, 10:13, said:
....As regards to Colin Pole he always seemed out of the crowd a bit. You never felt you would know him properly. I remember at a BFRC meeting at Snetterton it was raining and I beat him in the first race, he came to look at my bike and went balistic as I had a 375 KR124 on the back. " that's illegal" and all the usual squit came out and I thought he'll slit his wrists if he doesn't win the next one.....
Posted 31 December 2010 - 18:36
Rennmax, on Dec 31 2010, 09:48, said:
http://news.bbc.co.u...000/8726137.stm
I remember her riding in the F3 at the TT in '78
Cheers
Posted 31 December 2010 - 18:54
Robin127, on Dec 31 2010, 18:17, said:
Well, was it?
If it was I'm very surprised that John Milligan didn't pick up on it, what with his reputation regarding proddy bikes.
I was with some of my friends at a meeting in 81 or 82 and Colin Pole joined in the conversation and he asked one of them who had just started racing what he was riding, he replied "An RD400", Pole said "What like mine?" to which Lin, my friend answered "No, my one's legal." There was total silence as Colin Pole turned on his heel and walked off, we all, as one would, found it rather funny. I believe there was always some rumours about the legality of that RD.
Posted 31 December 2010 - 18:55
Robin127, on Dec 31 2010, 18:17, said:
Well, was it?
If it was I'm very surprised that John Milligan didn't pick up on it, what with his reputation regarding proddy bikes.
I was with some of my friends at a meeting in 81 or 82 and Colin Pole joined in the conversation and he asked one of them who had just started racing what he was riding, he replied "An RD400", Pole said "What like mine?" to which Lin, my friend answered "No, my one's legal." There was total silence as Colin Pole turned on his heel and walked off, we all, as one would, found it rather funny. I believe there was always some rumours about the legality of that RD.
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Paul Collins, on Dec 31 2010, 19:18, said:
I remember being at a Racing 50 Club meeting when Jim Parker decided to have the headlights checked on all the RD's and other proddies at scrutineering, if it didnt work you could'nt ride in the proddie race.
We were at Cadwell and my mate had to race off in the van to a bike shop in Louth and get about 20 headlamp bulbs for everyone, I also remember the big fuss about removing seat padding and my mate's vain arguments with scrutineers most weekends as he tried to convince them that his seat had 'just sagged like that honest mister'i'm glad I didnt ride proddies.
There was never much to worry about in the open classes but I did once get pulled for having clip ons which were supposedly shorter than the legal minimum!! when I pointed out that i was on a TD1C against TZ's and I didnt think it would do much to make up my 20bhp power disadvantage he let me off.
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Paul Collins, on Dec 31 2010, 19:55, said:
I heard rumours of people running paraffin in gearboxes and removing seals from wheel bearings to reduce drag, did it really get to that level?
Posted 31 December 2010 - 20:24
MickJones, on Dec 31 2010, 20:07, said:
That sounds excessive Paul but I wouldn't put it past em. As Stu said, you had to ride it so give me a rider over trickery any day. The only rule I broke knowingly was the seat padding thing which was a load of B******s anyway. Surely if that's how you feel safer on your bike it makes sense to give in a little, hat's off to BEMSEE for taking a sensible attitude to it.
Posted 31 December 2010 - 20:41
MickJones, on Dec 31 2010, 18:54, said:
Hi Mick, I can honestly say hand on heart that my Fi Suzuki was definitely 997cc with Yoshimura pistons and ran on pump petrol. However .............. we did have handcut slicks cut to a KR124 pattern by a brilliant ex Dunlop guy from Solihull, cant remember his name but had a standup row with Fred Curry at the Marlboro round at Thruxton who wasnt too impressed, Rob Gourlay intervened and said " If there were money on this race then blood would be spilt !"Was it illegal? news to me if it was, I didn't think tyres were an issue, not including slicks of course. I used roadgoing TT100's for a season and a half until I got real and fitted KR124's. Similarly rear shocks were ok to change, i had those upside down gas girlings which were an inch or so longer than the originals for ground clearance which saved having to play with the rules and "accidently bend the pipes. Talking of illegal, Colin sold me my X7 which had the one piece head sawn in half to allow access to one cylinder, that was pounced on in scrutineering as illegal so i had to do some pretty nifty makeup work to disguise it. I think BEMSEE were the most leniant with the rule book as they never bothered with the seat padding issue as BRC and BFRC did. I made up a replica padding that dissapeared when I sat on it as I just couldn't get on with sitting up in the air, so in my mindset, it was a safety issue and nothing to do with performance. I must admit that this cheating thing is something I didn't miss when i went open class. I must have been a bit too blase about it though because a friend of mine and old rival recently told me that in F1 I was the only mug out there without an oversize engine and not using AVGAS.
Posted 31 December 2010 - 20:48
Steve Bateman, on Dec 31 2010, 20:41, said:
Hi Mick, I can honestly say hand on heart that my Fi Suzuki was definitely 997cc with Yoshimura pistons and ran on pump petrol. However .............. we did have handcut slicks cut to a KR124 pattern by a brilliant ex Dunlop guy from Solihull, cant remember his name but had a standup row with Fred Curry at the Marlboro round at Thruxton who wasnt too impressed, Rob Gourlay intervened and said " If there were money on this race then blood would be spilt !"
Top man and sorely missed !
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MickJones, on Jan 1 2011, 00:32, said:
Justice !Just to add fuel to the fire, I raced against Alf Mossel for the BRC 1300 4 stroke championship all year in 82 and of course learnt his strength and weakness during the process. His bike was quick but not unbeatable and I had the wiggly bits sorted so the annual 50 miler was where I would win or lose the championship. We both got away in front and I thought I'd sit behind him for a while, long race after all. We exited Sears and my heart sunk, he just rocketed away so quick my heart sunk. By lap 19 I was a lonely 2nd in front of Nick Jury, Ray Knight and I think Dave Cartwright but not sure on that one, anyway my pit board started showing P1 and I got kinda puzzled. It seems Alf had blown his motor and handed me the pot, kind of poetic justice really I guess.
Posted 01 January 2011 - 12:23