Can anyone tell me about Dale Duncan?
#1
Posted 22 November 2010 - 14:15
Can anyone add anything?
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#2
Posted 22 November 2010 - 15:27
#3
Posted 22 November 2010 - 15:45
After his divorce he moved to Houston where he raced Ferraris for his friend Big Jim Hall.
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Edited by Jerry Entin, 22 November 2010 - 18:10.
#4
Posted 22 November 2010 - 15:53
I wonder if he is mentioned in Mike Cox's book on Masten.
#5
Posted 22 November 2010 - 16:12
He is indeed, Barry. He apparently played a significant role in getting Masten involved in racing. There's also a great story about Dale and Masten winding up the local plod by fooling them into thinking that Masten was driving Dale's Allard through Kansas City (when he was banned from driving) and pouncing on him gleefully, only to find that the car was right-hand drive and being driven by Dale.I wonder if he is mentioned in Mike Cox's book on Masten.
He also gets a passing mention in a number of earlier threads, including this gem from the 'On this day in motorsport history' thread:
January 24,
(etc)
1954, Dale Duncan puts out a fire in his Allard's engine compartment during the 1000 kilometer endurance race in Buenos Aires, Argentina, by urinating on it. His co-driver, Carroll Shelby,
had thrown the fire extinguisher out of the car to save weight. They would finish tenth. Shelby's driving skills were noticed by John Wyer, who would later hire him to drive for Aston Martin. (Typical Carroll...) Am I correct in finding that Maston Gregory shared the win in that Argentine 1000km event with Eugenio Castelloti and Luigi Musso?
(etc)
Edited by Tim Murray, 22 November 2010 - 16:19.
#6
Posted 22 November 2010 - 18:11
Dale and Betty Duncan in 1955
When Dale Duncan wasn't flying for Braniff Airlines, he could often be found in the winner's circle, like here at Kansas City on September 1955. The car is A.V. Dayton's 4.5 Ferrari, the girl his wife Betty, who was the sister of Gregory's first wife.
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Edited by Jerry Entin, 22 November 2010 - 18:57.
#7
Posted 22 November 2010 - 19:24
Sebring 1958, drivers Mike Hawthorn, Briggs Cunningham and Dale Duncan waiting for the start
The fellow on the ground resting is Phil Hill.
Dale Duncan drove the Blue #7 Maserati 300S of A.V. Dayton
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Edited by Jerry Entin, 22 November 2010 - 19:33.
#8
Posted 22 November 2010 - 19:52
Wasn't that the car Gregory raced in Europe in 1954?
The car is A.V. Dayton's 4.5 Ferrari
#9
Posted 22 November 2010 - 20:46
It is the same Ferrari: the 4.5-liter 375MM, chassis 0370. Gregory sold it to A.V. Dayton, who sold it to A.D. Logan early in 1957. A.D. Logan sold it to Dean Knight later in 1957.
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#10
Posted 23 November 2010 - 07:55
#11
Posted 23 November 2010 - 09:50
#12
Posted 23 November 2010 - 13:28
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#13
Posted 23 November 2010 - 13:59
Not surprising that he never got another.
#14
Posted 23 November 2010 - 14:20
It seems unlikely that there's any close family connection between A.V. and Duncan Dayton. According to this profile of Dayton, he grew up in Minneapolis, his father Ken being CEO of the retail empire now known as Target.
#15
Posted 23 November 2010 - 14:34
Didn't Duncan test a 250F in Modena around that time?
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#16
Posted 23 November 2010 - 21:21
Not sure if all her demands were met, but Masten avoided visiting Kansas City for quite a while. At the time his annual income was estimated to be over $50,000 by Luella.
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#17
Posted 23 November 2010 - 21:22
Haven't hard that, though it's perfectly believableDidn't Duncan test a 250F in Modena around that time?
Perhaps he signed up for the Centro-Sud school?
#18
Posted 23 November 2010 - 21:48
Incidentally, Gordon Pennington went through the same thing while visiting Modena. He was invited to test a Maserati sportsracer with Bertocchi in the passenger seat.
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Edited by Jerry Entin, 24 November 2010 - 02:01.
#19
Posted 23 November 2010 - 21:57
We certainly have catalogued Mr. Duncan's racing career. Let's hope anyone else searching for this driver comes upon this thread.
BTW, why is he not on Darren's F.1 Driver information list?
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#20
Posted 23 November 2010 - 23:12
(Most website seem to be)
#21
Posted 23 November 2010 - 23:16