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[OO7]

Does anyone happen to know when last a driver completely dominated a race weekend? So that would include being quickest in every practice session, qualifying on Pole, setting the fastest lap and winning the race.

[phil1993]

Sebastian Vettel was fastest in FP3, Q2, Q3, won the race, led all 60 laps and set the fastest lap in the 2011 Indian Grand Prix.

He was also second fastest in FP1, although Lewis Hamilton's lap was set under yellow flag conditions. In FP2, Massa was 0.088 quicker than Seb.

I'd say that's fairly dominant!

[Atreiu]

Schumacher had many dominat weekends in 2002 & 2004. Hungaroring and Melbourne 04 come to mind, as Barcelona 2002.

[TheWilliamzer]

It's called "Grand Slam" I think? topping every session, then pole, fastest lap & win.

[Cavani]

grand slam is pole,race,lead every lap and fastest lap , has nothing to do with every session

[Zava]

well I know that Seb won 2009-2010 suzuka races by winning all FPs (excluding the total washout fp3 in 2010, with only 2 drivers having timed laps) all Q sessions, and races. however I think on both occassions Webber took the FL-s, in 2009 they sent him back on track to do some test mileage, and in 2010 I think he just wanted to spit in the soup of Vettel, taking the FL on the last lap from him (Button posted a faster lap than Vettel's previous FL as well on the final lap, though)

edit: sorry, I'm wrong: he didn't win FPs in 2009, although I was damn sure about that

Edited by Zava, 04 August 2012 - 18:40.

[Buttoneer]

I don't know that the practice sessions are 'measured' in that way, but we do have the a Grand Chelem. Thread on that is here;
http://forums.autosp...howtopic=136368

[AvranaKern]

Lewis Hamilton in 2008 Chinese GP. He was the fastest in FP1, FP2, Q1, Q2, Q3 and the race bar FP3 in which he was second to Heidfeld by 0.074. Fastest lap was also set by him. He was untouchable that day.

[scheivlak]

Does anyone happen to know when last a driver completely dominated a race weekend? So that would include being quickest in every practice session, qualifying on Pole, setting the fastest lap and winning the race.

This same question was asked just two or three days ago in the SQT thread.

The answer was: Mika Hakkinen, Brazil 1998.

[OO7]

I don't know that the practice sessions are 'measured' in that way, but we do have the a Grand Chelem. Thread on that is here;
http://forums.autosp...howtopic=136368

Forget about knowing what that means, I didn't even know how to pronounce it .

[OO7]

This same question was asked just two or three days ago in the SQT thread.

The answer was: Mika Hakkinen, Brazil 1998.

Cheers scheivlak
Seems the SQT isn't just for asking stupid questions.

[Kingshark]

The answer was: Mika Hakkinen, Brazil 1998.

That would be the correct answer.

[Avastrol]

The 3-phase qualifying makes matters more difficult I guess. To "completely dominate" a weekend today, one must lead:

- FP1
- FP2
- FP3
- Q1
- Q2
- Q3 (pole position)
- Lead from the first to the penultimate lap
- Race win (lead on the last lap)
- Fastest lap

A rather ridiculous feat. Pole + fastest lap + win is a Grand Slam. Add leading all the laps to that, and it becomes a Grand Chelem, which I think was last achieved by Vettel in 2011 India and Alonso in 2010 Singapore. Add FP1-Q2, and you have a complete weekend domination.

[Zava]

The 3-phase qualifying makes matters more difficult I guess. To "completely dominate" a weekend today, one must lead:

- FP1
- FP2
- FP3
- Q1
- Q2
- Q3 (pole position)
- Lead from the first to the penultimate lap
- Race win (lead on the last lap)
- Fastest lap

A rather ridiculous feat. Pole + fastest lap + win is a Grand Slam. Add leading all the laps to that, and it becomes a Grand Chelem, which I think was last achieved by Vettel in 2011 India and Alonso in 2010 Singapore. Add FP1-Q2, and you have a complete weekend domination.

nearly right, grand slam is the same as grand chelem, the pole+FL+win is called hat trick, if I'm not mistaken.

[OS X]

The hardest part of this feat is achieving the fastest lap. We are in an era which puts an emphasis on winning a grand prix by going as slowly as possible. Like Seb demonstrated several times in 2011, the most effective way to win a race is to build a 5-10 second gap to second place and manage that gap for the race. Therefore, when the cars are lightest, the dominant driver will be more interested in maintaining a gap rather than lapping quickly.

Only 2 winners of the 11 grands prix have set a fastest lap this season.

[Zava]

The hardest part of this feat is achieving the fastest lap. We are in an era which puts an emphasis on winning a grand prix by going as slowly as possible. Like Seb demonstrated several times in 2011, the most effective way to win a race is to build a 5-10 second gap to second place and manage that gap for the race. Therefore, when the cars are lightest, the dominant driver will be more interested in maintaining a gap rather than lapping quickly.

Only 2 winners of the 11 grands prix have set a fastest lap this season.

also the leading all along part is hard, lotuses (and saubers if they start at the front), or one less stoppers can ruin that easily.
probably a lotus driver starting from pole (the hardest part for them) could achieve it, they can stretch the stints so they're the last to pit at the front, and Kimi managed fastest laps on 22-23 laps old tyres last weekend...
mind you, Vettel nearly did it in bahrain, di Resta and Grosjean led 1-1 laps by pitting later (in Grosjean's case, 1 lap later, di Resta 3 laps later)

Edited by Zava, 05 August 2012 - 07:39.

[OO7]

It's a shame that motorsport.com made changes to their website. The information they used to have including race reports etc was brilliant. I was hoping to use the site to get more info on Mika's 1998 Brazilian Grand Chelem, but that information is no longer available.