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[Vesuvius]

time to get ready for singaproe Gp and the flyway races.

 

Alan Permane on singapore Gp Preparations

 

 

so this means no LWB cars at Singapore. 

 

hopefully they are right and car will be competitve at singapore...it wasnt competitive last year and this year E21 has been also pretty weak on tracks like last year montreal, spa, monza, monaco...althought at in three/four of those there was pace on the car but different circumstances denied the results. LWB will be back at some point (suzuka, brazil..) but it wont be good at track like singapore.

[Yoshi]

http://www.omnicorse...o-lungo-a-monza

 

Can someone translate it please?

 

According to Google Translator the new LWB is not legal.

[MadYarpen]

so it is true that they didn't pay Kimi his salary. TBH I couldn't believe that. Doesn't bode well for the next season...

[eronrules]

http://www.omnicorse...o-lungo-a-monza

 

Can someone translate it please?

 

According to Google Translator the new LWB is not legal.

according to this article

 

 

http://www.blogf1.it...ia-non-proprio/

 

 

 

On Friday evening, the E21 is transported to the FIA garage to the usual monitoring techniques, but here is the unexpected around the corner. At the back of the car there are three holes, in which are inserted buffers that are used to lift the car on the bridge and allow technicians to carry out the changes. 

It 's just there that the team realizes the error: the arms had been lengthened, according to the regulation, but the holes were left in the original position and have not been able to raise the car regularly. The machine was, therefore, considered to be " illegal "because uncontrollable, not because he really was.

 

if i understand this correctly (from google translate), the problem was something like this. 

 

- when the wheel base was lengthened by 10 cms, the t-tray wasn't re positioned accordingly, also

- the mountings or holes where the jacks goes under the floor weren't changed either. thus,

- when the team jacked the car up at the weigh bridge for scrutineering, they couldn't raise it sufficiently/raise it at all as the t-tray got in the way as it wasn't positioned correctly. 

 

this violated the regulation somehow and the car wasn't allowed.

Edited by eronrules, 19 September 2013 - 12:00.

[eronrules]

kimi on why he left LotusF1 ... 

 

http://www1.skysport...g-to-help-lotus

 

Q: it seems that lotus owes you a lot of money, so the question is simple, why, if the team doesn't fulfill it's part of the contract, why do you respect your's and why don't you simply just stay at home ???

 

Kimi : i like to race, i mean obviously it's the only reason why i'm here, it doesn't matter which team it is and (mumbling)  ... the reason is why i left the team is purely the money side and ... the things they haven't got much either ... it's an unfortunate thing ... like i said i wanna help the team as much as possible as i can and i like to race.   

[kimister]

I am sure Kimi really wanted to stay at Lotus, but that unresolved financial issues should be a real trouble. That's so unfortunate. But, As Kimi said himself, he will help to team as much as he can untill the end in terms of both racing and off track sponsor tracking.

Edited by kimister, 19 September 2013 - 16:10.

[Vesuvius]

I heard Mika Salo said that Kimi is paying travel fees and hotels from his own pocket. It was apparently said on a Finnish broadcast few races back. Anyone got info on that? Surely Lotus situation can't be that bad?

Yes I can confirm he said this. But don't know how true it's.

[eronrules]

let's get back to the car shall we. 

 

even though LotusF1 seems to be running on fumes, the car is still good . now, the car showed very good pace at Hungaroring. so we do have good chance of scoring a podium here. 

 

any pics of something new on the car??? 

 

 

also we need some one with good italian to translate these ... google translate isn't clear enough ... 

 

the problem with LWB car .... 

 

http://www.omnicorse...o-lungo-a-monza

 

http://www.blogf1.it...ia-non-proprio/

[Vesuvius]

Car was very good at Hungary as well but was miles away from pace at singapore...hopefully it will be different this year, I believe they should be strong this time.Also hopefully Kimi will get best out of supersofts as he has so far never got them work as well Romain has.

[SilentKiller]

Singapore is one of Kimi's weakest tracks. I think Gro could be beating him this weekend. Quali is very important as is the case with all street circuits.

[Raikkonen94]

Singapore is one of Kimi's weakest tracks. I think Gro could be beating him this weekend. Quali is very important as is the case with all street circuits.

 

Well he still holds the lap record so he can't be that bad around here. But I agree, so far Singapore hasn't been his best track, to say the least. It could very well be that Grosjean beats him here, especially if Kimi has trouble again with his quali lap on the SS. The Lotus car wasn't very good around this track last year either,

[SophieB]

I moved the discussion of the financial situation at Lotus over to the thread about it here:

 

http://forums.autosp...us-split-topic/

[F.M.]

Steering issues continue for Grosjean....

 

Edit: braking problem this time apparently

[Pitlane]

Lotus pace seems sooo far away from RBR

[Radion]

Lotus pace seems sooo far away from RBR

Yeah, but within mercedes pace in terms of long run.

I hope they can at least fight with the two mercs for that third spot on the podium.

[kimister]

I thought Kimi's last stint on medium (?) was quite good and was matching RBR.

[Vesuvius]

Lotus racepace is good, but will they have enough speed over one lap? Does Kimi still struggle ith Super softs...if they can qualify high, than everything is possible as there will be more stops on the race.

[Raikkonen94]

Red Bull looks on it's way to a simple 1-2 this weekend. Hopefully the pace from Lotus is good enough, because the F1 live timing froze I couldn't really see Kimi's pace. Grosjean will be up there tomorrow as it's pretty close behind the Bulls. Is this a typical 2 stop race? Lotus' one stop less strategy might benefit here as overtaking is very difficult.

[kimister]

Eric Boullier said at press conference that Kimi's speed was as good as RBR's.

[Vesuvius]

Eric Boullier said at press conference that Kimi's speed was as good as RBR's.

Great! If only he would qualify in top 5.

[DutchQuicksilver]

Eric Boullier said at press conference that Kimi's speed was as good as RBR's.

Useless if Kimi qualifies only 8th or so. With a bit of luck he can qualify 5th. Red Bull and Mercedes seem out of reach for him.

[Raikkonen94]

Eric Boullier said at press conference that Kimi's speed was as good as RBR's.

 

Unfortunately Boullier has said so many things positive things about the car prior to a race (weekend). Before every quali or race I hear him say the most optimistic things and then later in the race the car just doesn't have the pace. And according to Boullier the Infinity deal should've been finalised around the summer break or so and still no significant progress has been made in that regard. I don't really trust what he says, although I really like his French accent when he talks

Edited by Raikkonen94, 20 September 2013 - 15:53.

[eronrules]

the love-hate relationship between kimi and supersofts continue 

 

once kimi decided to leave, all the steering and mechanical gremlins switches to Grogro's car   (kidding)

 

car looks good on bumps and kerbs, but overall lacks DF. i haven't seen any mentionable new bits on the car IIRC.

 

expect a repeat of Singapore GP 2012. E21 is good with high DF setup, yes, but on proper race tracks, not stop and go 90^o snoozefest circuits. 

[eronrules]

I thought Kimi's last stint on medium (?) was quite good and was matching RBR.

fat load of good that's gonna do in the race when he'll be stuck behind rosberg and hamsta, not to mention the ferrari's

[Raikkonen94]

Andrew Benson ‏@andrewbensonf1 

 

Long run avgs. super-soft. VET 1:50.654; WEB 51.258; RAI 52.306; ROS 52.637. ALO & HAM N/A

 

Long-run averages medium tyre. WEB 50.783 (four laps); VET 51.617 (7); RAI 51.766 (7); HAM 52.87 (5) ALO 53.371 (15); ROS 53.428 (10)

[Vesuvius]

Kimi to TS:

 

- my supersoft lap was ruined by traffic on the start and in the end, without that my time would have been much quicker. Car already felt pretty good, so lets see what we can do tomorrow

- nobody can challenge Red Bulls, Vettel was so much quicker than anyone else.

- Kimi was happy with long runs.

[kimister]

Oh, at least he feels good in the car. Tomorrow's results cannot be as bad as I thought then 

[Vesuvius]

Oh, at least he feels good in the car. Tomorrow's results cannot be as bad as I thought then 

it can still be bad, as we know Kimi just doesnt get the best out of the supersofts but Kimi hasnt been that positive about the car for long long time...althought he has never ruled out victory before like he basicly did now.

[jedioriginal]

Oh, at least he feels good in the car. Tomorrow's results cannot be as bad as I thought then 

So it seems Lotus have a decent chance to p5 tomorrow,Bulls 1,2-merc 3-4,Lotus 5-6...

[Gasp]

~1hour to go. Hope they find little more speed, it is nice to hear that Kimi says car feels good. It would be nice to see Kimi at podium tomorrow.  

Just looked my crystall ball, it says Qual. order is 1. Vet 2. Ham 3. Webber 4. Rosberg 5. Kimi 6. Gro. 

[kimister]

~1hour to go. Hope they find little more speed, it is nice to hear that Kimi says car feels good. It would be nice to see Kimi at podium tomorrow.  

Just looked my crystall ball, it says Qual. order is 1. Vet 2. Ham 3. Webber 4. Rosberg 5. Kimi 6. Gro. 

 

Not bad 

[Vesuvius]

~1hour to go. Hope they find little more speed, it is nice to hear that Kimi says car feels good. It would be nice to see Kimi at podium tomorrow.

Just looked my crystall ball, it says Qual. order is 1. Vet 2. Ham 3. Webber 4. Rosberg 5. Kimi 6. Gro.

I would be happy with that result!

[kimister]

I hope the time lost will not a big problem in terms of car performance for Romain.

[Cyanide]

Not following live timing, but why is Kimi down in 14th, 2 and a half seconds off the pace and Grosjean is 4th, 3 tenths off the pace? 

[sock22]

Not following live timing, but why is Kimi down in 14th, 2 and a half seconds off the pace and Grosjean is 4th, 3 tenths off the pace? 

He did his run quite early and hasn't set a lap time since.

[Vesuvius]

Not following live timing, but why is Kimi down in 14th, 2 and a half seconds off the pace and Grosjean is 4th, 3 tenths off the pace?

Kimi made a mistake on his best flying lap, then spent about 15 minutes at the pit...then now came back on track...slow and now back in pit, there is some probems.

[artista]

Not following live timing, but why is Kimi down in 14th, 2 and a half seconds off the pace and Grosjean is 4th, 3 tenths off the pace? 

Dunno if there is something else, but I could see in the tracking he got a lot of traffic in S2 and S3 of his best lap

[Vesuvius]

On Kimi's inlap, told to "cool the car as much as you can, please, cool the car as much as you can"

[Vesuvius]

Dunno if there is something else, but I could see in the tracking he got a lot of traffic in S2 and S3 of his best lap

Didn't see anyone in front of his best lap on S3 but he did couple of mistakes on few last corners.

[artista]

Didn't see anyone in front of his best lap on S3 but he did couple of mistakes on few last corners.

Maldonado

 

Edit: I don't know if he also did a mistake in addition

Edited by artista, 21 September 2013 - 10:47.

[Yoshi]

Didn't see anyone in front of his best lap on S3 but he did couple of mistakes on few last corners.

 

The rear looked unstable in S3 during his lap.

[kimister]

Dunno if there is something else, but I could see in the tracking he got a lot of traffic in S2 and S3 of his best lap

 

Maldonado was ahead of him and  though he was on a slow lap, he didn't let kimi pass unfortunately. Kimi was angry to Williams on the radio.

[SophieB]

4000 posts, new thread needed!

[Cyanide]

I saw in the beginning he had serious handling troubles, especially in the rear, in the final sector. And he's locking up very often into the first corner. 

[Vesuvius]

Maldonado

Ok, but on tv there was nobody in front of him for last 15 seconds of the lap...don't know what happened before that as it wasn't shown on tv.