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[raiderhall]

sweet ass!!!

Edited by raiderhall, 16 October 2014 - 12:43.

[Timstr11]

A more detailed insight into Mercedes expenditure over the year 2013 for Brackley and Brixworth:

http://www.motorspor...n-14101709.html

 

Brackley 2013:

Spend: 231 million EUR (27% up from 2012)

Income from Daimler AG: 60 million EUR (Mercedes branding)

Loss: 84 million EUR

Head count: 663

 

Brixworth 2013:

Spend: 152 million EUR (5% up from 2012)

Profit: 24 million EUR

Head count: 523

 

These numbers exclude inter-company payments. E.g. the Brackley engine cost is not reflected in the 231 million euro I believe.

Edited by Timstr11, 17 October 2014 - 14:28.

[OO7]

[Timstr11]

It..it..it's aliiiive!

[Wifey]

That ass!!

[OilFour]

Jar Jar Binks, is that you?

[CrucialXtreme]

via OmniCorse.it

Giorgio Piola says Mercedes & Bosch have developed a new direct injection that will operate at 500 bar which is a huge improvement because this years system operated at barely half that. Piola says this alone will give an increase of roughly 40 horsepower. Looks like the new Mercedes PU106 A is going to be better than this years.

The story can be found here at Giorgia Piola/OmniCorse[/quote]

[bonjon1979a]

[quote name="CrucialXtreme" post="6932499" timestamp="1413676794"]


via OmniCorse.it

Giorgio Piola says Mercedes & Bosch have developed a new direct injection that will operate at 500 bar which is a huge improvement because this years system operated at barely half that. Piola says this alone will give an increase of roughly 40 horsepower. Looks like the new Mercedes PU106 A is going to be better than this years.

The story can be found here at Giorgia Piola/OmniCorse[/quote][/quote]

I feel like I saw this exact same story on f1technical last year.

Bosch 500 bar pressure injectors aren't new either

http://www.f1technic...0/red-bull-rb10

This feels like someone's picked up a tidbit of information and run with it in completely the wrong direction

[CrucialXtreme]

This feels like someone's picked up a tidbit of information and run with it in completely the wrong direction

Not sure what you think those have to do with each other but from what I can see, they don't.
One team has nothing to do with the other, same for their power units.

[Timstr11]

I feel like I saw this exact same story on f1technical last year.

Bosch 500 bar pressure injectors aren't new either

http://www.f1technic...0/red-bull-rb10

This feels like someone's picked up a tidbit of information and run with it in completely the wrong direction

 

The article you linked to contains the normal vague spec sheet that teams give out as pat of their press kit. so I would not draw any conclusion from that.

Although it says Injection: Bosch direct fuel injection, limited to 500bar, that does not mean they made 500 bar.

500 Bar is the regulatory limit.

 

It's quite possible that Bosch has only now managed to design a 500 bar system that works reliably.

The omincorse artile says that Ferrari's Magneti Marelli system was already at the 500 bar level.

Edited by Timstr11, 19 October 2014 - 08:38.

[Timstr11]

[bonjon1979a]

The article you linked to contains the normal vague spec sheet that teams give out as pat of their press kit. so I would not draw any conclusion from that.

Although it says Injection: Bosch direct fuel injection, limited to 500bar, that does not mean they made 500 bar.

500 Bar is the regulatory limit.

 

It's quite possible that Bosch has only now managed to design a 500 bar system that works reliably.

The omincorse artile says that Ferrari's Magneti Marelli system was already at the 500 bar level.

I didn't dig out the Merc link because I couldn't be arsed to seek it out. Merc were already using Bosch fuel injectors at 500 bar pressure. You'll have to trawl through the F1technical engine thread but there was a lot of discussion about it and it was found to be that they already were using Bosch fuel injectors capable of 500 bar pressure. That's why I find it an odd article as it's something that has been discussed at length before.

[maverick69]

I didn't dig out the Merc link because I couldn't be arsed to seek it out. Merc were already using Bosch fuel injectors at 500 bar pressure. You'll have to trawl through the F1technical engine thread but there was a lot of discussion about it and it was found to be that they already were using Bosch fuel injectors capable of 500 bar pressure. That's why I find it an odd article as it's something that has been discussed at length before.

 

Maybe they're doing something with the pulse so they can go over 500 bar - but average at 500 which is required by the rules.

[bonjon1979a]

Maybe they're doing something with the pulse so they can go over 500 bar - but average at 500 which is required by the rules.

Maybe but the rumour is exactly the same as one heard last year which leads me to believe its old news.

[Timstr11]

Maybe but the rumour is exactly the same as one heard last year which leads me to believe its old news.

 

Omnicorse have actually been consistent in their reporting.

I found a discussion about this matter in this very thread where there is a link to an omnicorse article (jan 2014) about Bosch not having reached the objective of 500 bar yet.

[raiderhall]

Please! NO MORE DNF's with this car!

[SanDiegoGo]

now, the constructors title has been sewn up, what are the chances of a hangover mentality causing gremlins in the cars? i worry that the pressure is off, somewhat, and that will allow mistakes to creep in. toto and paddy have alluded to this in their calls for the team to continue provinding reliable cars for both drivers. they are aware it's an issue.

Edited by SanDiegoGo, 21 October 2014 - 00:23.

[Szoelloe]

now, the constructors title has been sewn up, what are the chances of a hangover mentality causing gremlins in the cars? i worry that the pressure is off, somewhat, and that will allow mistakes to creep in. toto and paddy have alluded to this in their calls for the team to continue provinding reliable cars for both drivers. they are aware it's an issue.

 

SQT?

[Timstr11]

How details made a title winner for Mercedes

By Giorgio Piola on  21 October 2014  @giorgiopiola

Words by Mark Hughes

 

Edit: The log style exhausts are a unique feature that should've been mentioned as. well.

Edited by Timstr11, 21 October 2014 - 16:47.

[Ellios]

Mercedes F1 gearbox secrets revealed - Scarbs F1 Update

 

[SirT]

I see Puma have renewed with Mercedes to supply team kit. I thought Hugo Boss were gonna take over making the team kit but I guess they will just be a sponsor. Kind of glad as the McLaren gear for last few years has looked rubbish.

 

http://www.f1today.n...er-for-mercedes

[sabjit]

Mercedes F1 gearbox secrets revealed - Scarbs F1 Update

 

 

 

The secret is out.

 

We're doomed 

[SirT]

I see Puma have renewed with Mercedes to supply team kit. I thought Hugo Boss were gonna take over making the team kit but I guess they will just be a sponsor. Kind of glad as the McLaren gear for last few years has looked rubbish.

 

http://www.f1today.n...er-for-mercedes

 

Maybe not...

 

Just seen this on Mercedes facebook page:

 

PUMA are responsible for all team technical wear (driver suits / boots / gloves, mechanic overalls, etc.) while Hugo Boss will be making our team kit (travel wear etc.) - Hope that clarifies

[Zoetrope]

Real one...



...vs rendered image

[femi]

Yes !!!

http://www.gpupdate....d-dewar-trophy/

[GoldenColt]

Well deserved.

[KiloWatt]

Well deserved.

+1

[OO7]

[Timstr11]

[SanDiegoGo]

 

 "WHERE'S MY DINNER?"

Edited by SanDiegoGo, 01 November 2014 - 14:18.

[OO7]

[Timstr11]

Something about the light in Texas...

 

 

 

 

 

[otbevo]

Not quite the W05, but here's the show car they have at the USGP with the combination W05/W04/W03 pieces up close and personal:

 

 

 

 

 

 

^Wouldn't surprise me if this is the rear wing from Lewis' car that caught fire in qually in Hungary with the burn damage...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Zoetrope]

One more 1-2 and Mercedes hits the record of most 1-2s in a season. 1988 seen just 16 races thou.

[SheIsDisaster]

Toto Wolff post race interview

 

[Ducks]

 

14 WINS

[teejay]

Race pace looked to be a little concerning until the second stops then boom, gone.

[SirT]

[payinkind]

No Toto, Lauda, Lowe?

[Newbrray]

 

14 WINS

 

 

This is pure porn!!

[SirT]

No Toto, Lauda, Lowe?

 

Not sure why they are missing. Perhaps there were some big meetings after the race?

 

Some more good pics of Mercedes cars and celebrations here... http://www.f1fanatic...-prix-pictures/

[OO7]

Does anyone happen know what the record for most number of 1-2 starts in a season is?

[Boxerevo]

Man, its a shame Ros couldn't taste this sucess after hard first years.

[Hyatt]

 finally shrugged off Ric. The remaining two races will be the most enjoyable ever for me!

[sabjit]

So a confirmed double championship for Merc.

 

Massive congrats to the guys!

[OO7]

[TF110]

I love when they are on the white banded medium tires. Best look imo.

[Ducks]

White or Red are the best tire colors, unfortunately in Abu Double we might end the race on the soft yellows...

[OO7]

I like the colours of the soft and medium tyres.

[OO7]

Ok, I've just checked.  Mercedes will need to start 1 & 2 in both Brazil and Abu Dhabi to equal the record of 12 front row starts by both the 1988 McLaren MP4/4 and the 1993 Williams FW15C.

 

The record for most consecutive Pole Positions by a team was Red Bull in 2011 with 15!   (From the 1st race in Australia to the 15th in Japan).

Edited by OO7, 12 November 2014 - 01:12.