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#351 Rupertlt1

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Posted 30 October 2023 - 06:29

A. J. Korczynski:

 

https://www.racingsp...czynski-GB.html

 

Said to be chassis #203? Certainly at Silverstone, 1959. Was he ever entered at Goodwood?

 

A.M.O.C. Silverstone, 23 May 1959, David Brown 200-mile relay race:

1. Lotus No 4 team (J. Graydon-Whitehead, P. D. Anders, A. T. Korczynsky, Mrs. R. Bluebelle Gibbs)

 

Who is this, #3B? (Definitely 200 miles, not 100 miles.)

https://library.revs...le-relay/447331

 

Also at Snetterton, Sunday 7 September 1958.

 

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Posted 31 October 2023 - 14:59

Was he ever entered at Goodwood?

 

Surely as a ‘motor racing historian’ you know exactly where to find this information….



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Posted 31 October 2023 - 15:22

Surely as a ‘motor racing historian’ you know exactly where to find this information….

 

Presumably in the Goodwood reference books which I don't have?

The whole point of TNF is that it is 'give and take.' Try finding the Silverstone result I gave above elsewhere on the internet?

This is part of trying to find XJH 781   if you are familiar with this thread you will know that this is a quest that has been running for some years and has, so far, defeated everyone here.

 

See from 2016: https://forums.autos...-4#entry7575173

 

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Posted 02 November 2023 - 13:33

"Was he ever entered at Goodwood?"

Rupert

I've checked the Index of Robert Barker's A Record of Motor Racing at Goodwood and he is not listed

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Posted 02 November 2023 - 17:49


Who is this, #3B? (Definitely 200 miles, not 100 miles.)

https://library.revs...le-relay/447331

 

Also at Snetterton, Sunday 7 September 1958.

 

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 #3B at Silverstone is Edward  Hine  - Lotus XI (1958 model year). He was part of a team called Equipe South Africa the other members of which were G. Morgan, Tony Maggs, Louis Jacobsz, all in 1098cc Lotus XI's.  Lotus No 1 Team (source event programme)

 

(btw  the Sprite in the photo is #18A of Edgar B. Wadsworth)


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#356 Rupertlt1

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Posted 03 November 2023 - 07:09

A.M.O.C. Silverstone, 23 May 1959, David Brown 200-mile relay race:

1. Lotus No 4 team (J. Graydon-Whitehead, P. D. Anders, A. T. Korczynsky, Mrs. R. Bluebelle Gibbs - reserve, but ran)

2. Jaguar No 4 team (R. F. Taylor, D. J. Uren, F. G. Brown)

3. Lotus No 3 team (D. Hitches, E. A. Martin, M. R. Eyre)

4. Healey Sprite No 2 team

5. Healey Sprite No 1 team

6. Peerless No 1 team

Winning average 67.77 mph, 2hr 33min 44.6sec?

19 teams, Graham Hill in a Lotus Elite.

Birmingham Daily Post, Monday 25 May 1959, Page 5

Does the programme identify Lotus car capacities e.g. 1098, 1172 etc? Car colours?

Off topic can you identify the other runners and riders in the results?

Another Peerless team?

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Posted 03 November 2023 - 12:30

No colours given in the programme but here are the teams as listed.  21 teams listed but Team 21 (Rileys) and Team 20 (Astons) did not run.

 

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Posted 08 November 2023 - 05:01

1964: #349 red Lotus XI Le Mans, G Modified, Ken Legg, Seattle, Washington, wire wheels

 

Ran Westwood, B.C., 28 June 1964.

 

https://www.racingsp...n-Legg-USA.html

 

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Posted 21 December 2023 - 13:14

Trying to identify all Lotus cars at this meeting. Can anybody help?

Goodwood, BARC 27th Members' Meeting, 31 August 1957

#1 Innes Ireland, 5 BPH

#2 Graham Hill, POY 780

#4

#6 E. G. Vaughan SWK 750?

#8 Michael Clarke, Lotus XI Le Mans, XKM 9, 4th Event 1

#9 Gordon Fowell, OEA 272

#11 Len Gibbs YKX 55?

#17 Roy Watling-Greenwood

#19 Doug Graham, 418 SRE?

#31 J. S. E. 'John or Jon' Leighton, Scuderia Birchwood, Lotus Ford 11, XJH 851*

#44 D. K. Duckworth, Lotus Mark VI-Climax, MTD 2? (also at 25th Members' Meeting)

 

*14th Brunton Hill Climb, 12th May 1957, 1172 award — J. S. E. Leighton (Lotus) 31.66 secs

B.A.R.C. Year Book 1958, Page 99

Also at Brunton, Sunday 23 June 1957, 28.14 secs.

Autosport, 12 July 1957, Page 41

 

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#360 Rupertlt1

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Posted 22 December 2023 - 05:47

M.G. CAR CLUB SILVERSTONE RACE MEETING

24th August 1957

Results

Novices' Handicap, 5-lap, Heat A: 1. J. D.

Davis (Lotus-Climax); 2. G. I. Beedie (M.G.A);

3. N. Hillwood (Lister-Jaguar); 4. Mrs. M. A.

Hayward (M.G.A)

5-lap Novices Handicap, Final: 1. J. D. Davis

(Lotus-Climax); 2. G. I. Beedie (M.G.A); 3. R. P.

Stassieri (Austin-Healey); 4, J. J. Palmes (MG

TD).

 

J. D. Davis, Exeter, Lotus-Climax Mk XI

Thought to be UFJ 444.

 

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Posted 22 December 2023 - 19:37

Trying to identify all Lotus cars at this meeting. Can anybody help?

Goodwood, BARC 27th Members' Meeting, 31 August 1957

#1 Innes Ireland, 5 BPH

#2 Graham Hill, POY 780

#4

#6 E. G. Vaughan SWK 750?

#8 Michael Clarke, Lotus XI Le Mans, XKM 9, 4th Event 1

#9 Gordon Fowell, OEA 272

#11 Len Gibbs YKX 55?

#17 Roy Watling-Greenwood

#19 Doug Graham, 418 SRE?

#31 J. S. E. 'John or Jon' Leighton, Scuderia Birchwood, Lotus Ford 11, XJH 851*

#44 D. K. Duckworth, Lotus Mark VI-Climax, MTD 2? (also at 25th Members' Meeting)

 

*14th Brunton Hill Climb, 12th May 1957, 1172 award — J. S. E. Leighton (Lotus) 31.66 secs

B.A.R.C. Year Book 1958, Page 99

Also at Brunton, Sunday 23 June 1957, 28.14 secs.

Autosport, 12 July 1957, Page 41

 

RGDS RLT

 

Rupert,

 

Definitely Jon Leighton. What your research has done is find the UK rego for this car. Not listed in Marc Schagen's 'Lotus - the historic Sports & Racing Cars of Australia' book. But he does have this 'Club model' as chassis number 198 with Willment headed 1172 Ford sidevalve. 

 

I can add that Jon advertised the Eleven in 13/6/58 Autosport - the gist of being Scuderia Birchwood  Lotus XI 1172 engine dismantled £850 Twyford 5 evenings (Jon Leighton) p763. Either no takers or he changed his mind, because the car was in Australia competing by November 1958. My (current) earliest record is 16/11/58 Hepburn Springs Hillclimb for the combo.

 

You also reference Gordon Fowell, who would have been 20yo at the time of that meeting. By May 1962 he had some motoring press coverage for his Gitane GT special he hoped to put in limited productioni. Abarth Simca-like, it ran a Mini Cooper 997cc engine. He then had design work on Tecno racing cars if memory recalls correctly.

 

 

Stephen.



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Posted 23 December 2023 - 03:58

Jon Leighton is here:

 

https://library.revs...rc-27th-members'-meeting/405794

 

Defeated by the apostrophe, which it sees as a control character. Search on Goodwood 27th and XJH 851 is there #31 at Revs.

 

Finding him at Brunton is a bonus!

 

Other news of great interest here at the

moment is that Jon Leighton, founder of

the Scuderia Birchwood and noted for his

"low flying" at Brands Hatch in 1961, is

shortly to start a racing drivers'school; in

fact, it is hoped that Frank Gardner will

be chief instructor in the initial stages. The

cars to be used will be three Formula

Juniors (Lotuses) and a sports car (probably

a Lotus 23). Subsequently, it is hoped to

enter pupils in races.

Autosport, 7 December 1962, Page 774

 

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Edited by Rupertlt1, 23 December 2023 - 04:20.


#363 cooper997

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Posted 23 December 2023 - 08:51

Rupert, 3 x Lotus 18 indeed landed in Oz for 'The Birchwood School of Motor Racing'

 

A great Ashley Tracey study of School Loti and pupils at Calder 1963 can be found here...

https://www.facebook...3&theater&ifg=1

 

 

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Posted 25 December 2023 - 07:05

Trying to identify all Lotus cars at this meeting. Can anybody help?

Goodwood, BARC 27th Members' Meeting, 31 August 1957

#1 Innes Ireland, 5 BPH

#2 Graham Hill, POY 780

#4

#6 E. G. Vaughan SWK 750?

#8 Michael Clarke, Lotus XI Le Mans, XKM 9, 4th Event 1

#9 Gordon Fowell, OEA 272

#11 Len Gibbs YKX 55?

#17 Roy Watling-Greenwood

#19 Doug Graham, 418 SRE?

#31 J. S. E. 'John or Jon' Leighton, Scuderia Birchwood, Lotus Ford 11, XJH 851*

#44 D. K. Duckworth, Lotus Mark VI-Climax, MTD 2? (also at 25th Members' Meeting)

 

*14th Brunton Hill Climb, 12th May 1957, 1172 award — J. S. E. Leighton (Lotus) 31.66 secs

B.A.R.C. Year Book 1958, Page 99

Also at Brunton, Sunday 23 June 1957, 28.14 secs.

Autosport, 12 July 1957, Page 41

 

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No 31 John Leighton did not compete in event 1 (Scratch Race (A) up to 1250cc s/c) 10 lap race at 27th Members Meeting.

He did however compete with that no at event 7  (Handicap Race (B) a 5 lap race.

No 31 John Leighton,  Scuderia Birchwood ,  Lotus Ford 11, chassis 198 (reg no XJH 851) 1172cc. Grid 1'45", Result:  3rd, 5 laps, 10'53.2" 



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Posted 28 December 2023 - 09:55

XJH 851 is here at Brands Hatch, 29 June 1958:

 

https://library.revs...ds-hatch/390471

 

When and where did it first appear in Australia?

 

J. E. S. Leighton sailed for Australia on the S.S. Iberia, with Mrs. Leighton, arriving at Fremantle, WA, on 13 Oct 1958, bound for Melbourne.

 

In 1962 he was operating Birchwood Sports Cars at 204 Toorak Road, South Yarra, with Graham Kiellerup. 

 

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Posted 30 December 2023 - 08:37

Chequered Flag:

1958: ex-Keith Hall first series Lotus Eleven-Climax. 

Another Lotus Eleven, this time an 1172cc Ford sidevalve-engined Club variant.

"Warner then sold the older Series I Eleven and replaced it with a new Series II Climax-powered car."

"It had a de Dion rear end, disc brakes, magnesium wheels — the lot.

As for it being brand new, well, we had to practically rebuild it.

One of the wishbones had been installed upside down —

all sorts of things were wrong with it."

Was this 767 CNK?

https://library.revs...hatch-f2/392001

Driven by Graham Hill:

https://www.stilltim.../abi/abi257.jpg

 

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Posted 31 December 2023 - 07:23

So when did the Lotus Eleven show up in Australia?

 

Warwick Farm, Sunday 26 February 1961

RESULTS UNSUPERCHARGED SPORTS CAR RACE, under 1500 cc, five laps.

1. Scuderia Veloce (Dvr. D. McKay), Lola, 9m 41.8s, 65.85 m.p.h.

2. Martin's Neutral Bay Motors (J. Martin), Lotus Eleven, 10m 21.5s

3. G. Dummer, M.G. TC, 10m 57.9s.

Fastest lap: McKay, 1m 53.6s, 71.3 m.p.h.

 

Warwick Farm, Sunday 30 July 1961

Entered Ron Hodgson, Lotus Eleven

 

See:

https://forums.autos...les-businesses/

 

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#368 cooper997

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Posted 31 December 2023 - 10:01

Rupert,

 

Definitely Jon Leighton. What your research has done is find the UK rego for this car. Not listed in Marc Schagen's 'Lotus - the historic Sports & Racing Cars of Australia' book. But he does have this 'Club model' as chassis number 198 with Willment headed 1172 Ford sidevalve. 

 

I can add that Jon advertised the Eleven in 13/6/58 Autosport - the gist of being Scuderia Birchwood  Lotus XI 1172 engine dismantled £850 Twyford 5 evenings (Jon Leighton) p763. Either no takers or he changed his mind, because the car was in Australia competing by November 1958. My (current) earliest record is 16/11/58 Hepburn Springs Hillclimb for the combo.

 

 

 

Stephen.

 

Rupert, I've underlined part of my post 631 with my earliest recording, that is quite possibly the first event.

 

I'll add that Jon Leighton was entered for the 2 big consecutive weekend's at Albert Park. Event 5 'Victorian Tourist Trophy' on 23/11/58 and Event 9 Sports Car Scratch Race as part of  'Melbourne GP meeting' of 30/11/58.

 

12/58 Australian Motor Sports mag Spotlight page also records that David Leighton's younger brother ( Jon) arrived in Australia.

 

 

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Posted 01 January 2024 - 10:23

No 31 John Leighton did not compete in event 1 (Scratch Race (A) up to 1250cc s/c) 10 lap race at 27th Members Meeting.

He did however compete with that no at event 7  (Handicap Race (B) a 5 lap race.

No 31 John Leighton,  Scuderia Birchwood ,  Lotus Ford 11, chassis 198 (reg no XJH 851) 1172cc. Grid 1'45", Result:  3rd, 5 laps, 10'53.2" 

 

No 4Jack Westcott  (Lotus Climax 11, chassis 168 (reg no SXB 670) grid 10th, result: 19'06.2"



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Posted 12 January 2024 - 05:28

Silverstone, Aston Martin O.C. St. John Horsfall Meeting, Saturday 13 July 1957

1,172 c.c. Formula cars (5 laps):

1. Lotus XI 1,172 c.c. (J. Lawry), 65.39 m.p.h., 7min 22.8sec;

2. Lotus-Ford 1,172 c.c. (D. H. Swanton);

3. Lotus XI 1,172 c.c. (D. H. Hall).

 

https://www.racingsp...n-Lawry-GB.html

 

https://www.racingsp...._-Hall-GB.html

 

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Edited by Rupertlt1, 12 January 2024 - 05:33.


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Posted 12 January 2024 - 06:45

Rupert, Don Swanton was another Aussie who went off to the UK to try his luck in the mid-50s. You found some information about the Lotus VI he started with and is post 52 within the Staverton thread - if my note is accurate.

 

He later ran an XI, with Marc Schagen listing as S2 chassis 303 ex Peter Ashdown.

 

Dec 58 AMS again comes into play (as per Jon Leighton) with reference of Don being back in Melbourne after 2 1/2 years away. He then joined Lucas and the Lotus XI followed him home too.

 

There's a feature on Don in Aut-Wint 20 Oily Rag vol 29 #3 cover Caldersmith Ron Tauranac tribute

Forgotten pioneer of Australian motor sport - Don Swanton by Chris Charge – Amilcar, Austin 7, Singer, Cooper Jap – ex Matchless advert; Lotus 6 then Elva, there's a Goodwood photo showing 95 Lotus 11 rego 8574 F with no fairing and Albert Park photo car 71 with fairing (that must be from either 23 or 30/11/58 meeting) p30

 

 

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Posted 12 January 2024 - 13:32

John Lawry also seen in a Lotus Elite.

#252 at the 1957 Brighton Speed Trials in the Lotus XI.

 

#256 Tom Barnard, TUU 444, also at BST:

 

https://library.revs...d-trials/411114

 

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Edited by Rupertlt1, 12 January 2024 - 13:50.


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Posted 14 January 2024 - 09:43

Rupert, Don Swanton was another Aussie who went off to the UK to try his luck in the mid-50s. You found some information about the Lotus VI he started with and is post 52 within the Staverton thread - if my note is accurate.

He later ran an XI, with Marc Schagen listing as S2 chassis 303 ex Peter Ashdown.

Dec 58 AMS again comes into play (as per Jon Leighton) with reference of Don being back in Melbourne after 2 1/2 years away. He then joined Lucas and the Lotus XI followed him home too.

There's a feature on Don in Aut-Wint 20 Oily Rag vol 29 #3 cover Caldersmith Ron Tauranac tribute
Forgotten pioneer of Australian motor sport - Don Swanton by Chris Charge – Amilcar, Austin 7, Singer, Cooper Jap – ex Matchless advert; Lotus 6 then Elva, there's a Goodwood photo showing 95 Lotus 11 rego 8574 F with no fairing and Albert Park photo car 71 with fairing (that must be from either 23 or 30/11/58 meeting) p30


Stephen


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Stephen,

Here is Don Swanton in Lotus 11 Climax #303 chasing Lou Molina's Molina Monza Holden with Alan Jack, Cooper T39 Climax behind during the Victorian Tourist Trophy on November 23, 1958 at Albert Park. (Chris Charge Collection)

Article on the event here: https://primotipo.co...bert-park-1958/

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Posted 14 January 2024 - 20:54

Mark, you've made me dig out Oily Rag and that's the Albert Park photo used in the Swanton feature. Not sure if the original snapper would likely be Ed Steet or Peter D'abbs though.

 

 

Stephen



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Posted 15 January 2024 - 00:44

Agreed.

 

I'd never heard of the bloke but one of my old school-mates sent me this shot which was pinging around Camberwell Gwamma Ye Olde Boy circles. Singing God Save The Biscuit Tin and the School Song while sheet-faced aren't really my kinda-gigs, so I'm not in those loops.

 

Don Swanton spent most of his time in the motor industry it seems, and a good steerer for the brief time he was involved. 

 

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ps: wonder who ended up with the Steet archive?



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Posted 16 January 2024 - 04:46

Brands Hatch, B.R.S.C.C., Sunday 20 April 1958

Event 6, sports cars up to 1,200 c.c.: R. Gregory Brain spun lap 1.

Incident pictured in The Daily Telegraph, Mon 21 Apr 1958, Page 9

 

"R. G. Brain in his Ford-

engined Lotus 11 387

was no match for the

Climax-engined

brigade"

#22, registration 40 HK,

Goodwood, 26 April 1958

Motor Racing at Goodwood, An Illustrated History, by Robert Barker, Page 140

 

Also entered at B.R.S.C.C.'s National Open Race

Meeting, Mallory Park on Sunday, 11th May 1958:

R. Gregory Brain (Lotus-Ford).

 

Snetterton, Romford Enthusiasts Sprint, 14th September 1958

"J. Tennant in a Lotus Mk.

XI really pulled out the stops and his

32.77 was good enough for the class,

and R. Gregory-Brain in the same car

proved it was no fluke with 32.88 secs."

Autosport, 3 Oct 1958, Page 448

 

Also at Silverstone Club, North Staffs Motor CIub restricted, 27 September 1958.

 

https://www.racingsp...y-Brain-GB.html

 

Also entered in the R.G.W. (Norton) Formula III at Aintree, 23 June 1956.

A most obscure car?

 

Was he Ronald Gregory Brain? Sometimes Gregory-Brain.

 

See also: #2 Tree-Cooper at Snetterton:

https://www.progcove...erton560325.pdf

 

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Edited by Rupertlt1, 16 January 2024 - 08:23.


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Posted 16 January 2024 - 07:53

28th March 1958; 28th Member Meeting (Goodwood)

 

No 22 Gregory Brain  (Lotus 11-Ford) chassis 387 (Reg no 40 HK)  Entered Scratch Race (A) up to 1250cc non s/c  (10 laps)

Grid 22nd, result: retired 7 laps.

 

Ref: 'A History of Motor Racing at Goodwood, Volume 1 (2nd edition)



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Posted 16 January 2024 - 08:35

O/T is there any sign of the R.G.W.-Norton Formula III car at Goodwood circa 1956?

 

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Posted 17 January 2024 - 10:14

An entry was made for Earl of March Trophy by B.Sparks for the R.W.G.-Norton but he did not appear.

The R.W.G.-Norton has entered at a number of circuits during 1956, Snetterton-Silverstone-Crystal Palace-Brands Hatch, by several different drivers.

Best records would be from Formula One Register with their 'Formula 1 Register Record Books on F3  events (1950's) These can be supplied on particular no of years.

Generally full entries, results as far as possible to obtain. Early 1950's races were not always reported in full in specialist press at time               . 



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Posted 18 January 2024 - 04:36

I have no idea if this Eleven is lost, just that it was the most appropriate place to put this photo.

 

There's been a couple of boxes with old magazine clippings in my shed for a decade now, but the other day for some reason I had a scratch through them. This photo was amongst one of them. The boxes came from an uncle, but they relate to a chap named Peter Coleby, he was a member of the BARC in the UK and must have come to Australia in or around early 1960. As there's a March 1960 dated letter from the Light Car Club of Australia thanking him for his assistance at the previous Sunday's Rob Roy Hillclimb and application for membership

 

Anyway, cutting to the chase this photo might be able to be dated by those with Lotus Eleven knowledge. So over to you.

Coleby_Lotus_photo.jpg
 

 

Stephen

 

Back on the track of XJH 781 this comparison photograph establishes beyond doubt that the above picture was taken at Goodwood. Note #40 paddock bay.

https://library.revs...goodwood/269119

By the way what date in 1960 were the Brooklands Gates inaugurated at Goodwood? Possibly at the Guild of Motoring Writers test day, 23 October 1960? (The cars circulated at this event with the chicane removed.)

Where are the gates now? Possibly at Silverstone? Here is Bill Boddy? Laurence Cade?

https://library.revs...goodwood/264884

 

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Posted 19 January 2024 - 04:49

Snetterton, 1 September 1957, wet

I. Bueb, driving a Lotus, led the next race (for sports cars up to 1,100 c.c.)

throughout from the first lap, and steadily increased his lead so that at the

finish a gap of over a minute separated him from the second man, D. B.

Mathieson (Lotus).

Autocar, 6 September 1957, Page 340

 

Donald Mathieson, 108 DPJ:

 

https://library.revs...wick-cup/402690

 

Also #32 Lotus Eleven, registration 555 GVW, D. Pasterfield:

 

https://library.revs...s-1100cc/386694

 

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Snetterton Autosport Three Hour Race, 12 October 1957 

"Six were Lotus-Fords,

all having Buckler close-ratio gears, Coakley and Lawry using Ford

heads, Prior an Aquaplane, Walker a Willment, Parkes and Barnard

the Elva o.h. conversion. Parkes and Walker had tail-finned bodies." 

"The third retirement was Coakley's

yellow Lotus, which had shed a wheel in practice, had no rear lamp,

and in the race suffered from clutch slip."

 

Walker, XJH 902.

 

Prior, later Lotus-Climax, ORX 556?

 

So Lawry and Prior remain persons of interest in the search for XJH 781?

 

"John Lawry now has a Mk. XI Lotus"

Autosport, 10 May 1957, Page 584

 

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Edited by Rupertlt1, 19 January 2024 - 08:07.


#383 syrener

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Posted 19 January 2024 - 08:00

Hello, you may already know this: XJH778, which is 3 digits away from XJH781, is chassisnr 197, a club model sold new to a J.A.W. Harris. Today that car sits 10 miles away from me in Luxembourg. I suppose XJH781 is probably very close to chassis 197….

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#384 Rupertlt1

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Posted 19 January 2024 - 08:25

Brands Hatch, trio race meeting, 30 June 1957

1172 formula: Scratch race (two 5-lap heats.

7-lap final): Heat 1: 1. Lola (E. H. Broadley),

5min 45.8sec, 64.55 m.p.h.; 2. Lotus Eleven (J.

Lawry); 3. Lotus Mark VI (J. P. H. Gresham).

Fastest lap: (tie) J. Lawry and R. N. Prior (Lotus

Eleven). 1min 7.4sec, 66.23 m.p.h.

Final: 1. Lola (E. H. Broadley), 8min 0.4sec. 65.04

m.p.h.; 2. Lotus Eleven (J. Lawry); 3. Lotus

Eleven (R. N. Prior). Fastest lap: (tie) J. W.

Anstice-Brown and R. N. Prior, 1min 6.8sec, 66.83 m.p.h.

 

Who is this? #48 Lotus XI, registration 9 CPF

https://library.revs...ch-brscc/416393

 

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#385 68targa

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Posted 19 January 2024 - 11:08


Who is this? #48 Lotus XI, registration 9 CPF

https://library.revs...ch-brscc/416393

 

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Brands Hatch 5 August 1957.  # 48  is John Lawry.   Finished 6th o/r

# 30 is Mike Parkes (2nd o/r)

# 46 is Ian Walker (1st o/r)

The AC Ace #58 is Bob Jennings

This was a round of the Autosport Production sports car Championship.

(source from programme)



#386 Rupertlt1

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Posted 22 January 2024 - 10:25

John Fisher has been hiding in plain sight:

 

https://www.racingsp...-Fisher-GB.html

 

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#387 bradbury west

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Posted 23 January 2024 - 00:16

RLT. I think you have two different John Fishers there. The one at Goodwood, Brands Hatch and Silverstone is not the one at the northern and Scottish circuits. In the very precise biography of Jack Fisher, ( the other John Fisher whose races are listed above via your results link)  there is no mention of those cars or those circuits. I hope this may save you any unnecessary searching.

Roger Lund



#388 Rupertlt1

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Posted 23 January 2024 - 05:07

John Fisher was #190 at the Brighton Speed Trials in 1957.

(Sports cars up to 1,100 c.c.)

 

He was from Portsmouth, a car and motorcycle dealer

 

He was #10 at the 27th Goodwood Members Meeting, 31 August 1957

 

YTN 444: https://library.revs...goodwood/406378

 

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#389 Rupertlt1

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Posted 25 January 2024 - 15:37

Goodwood, B.A.R.C., Saturday 2 July 1966

#53 Lotus XI-Ford, 997 c.c., blue, registration 491 FWC, driver J. R. Axon

 

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