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[fololo]

Rory Byrne is known to be the best formel 1 designer of all time. He showed Newey a lesson how to built a car and is the Most succesfull F1 Designer of all Time. Where is he after he left Ferrari?

[trogggy]

Rory Byrne is known to be the best formel 1 designer of all time. He showed Newey a lesson how to built a car and is the Most succesfull F1 Designer of all Time. Where is he after he left Ferrari?

I'm just surprised Rory's mum doesn't know where he is tbh.

[Hairpin]

Rory Byrne is known to be the best formel 1 designer of all time. He showed Newey a lesson how to built a car and is the Most succesfull F1 Designer of all Time. Where is he after he left Ferrari?

Good question. Where is he?
Wikipedia has no answers either. http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Rory_Byrne

[DanardiF1]

He's basically retired now isn't he? I'm sure though he was consulting Ferrari up until 2008 at least, and is probably still in their phonebook?

[PNSD]

Rory Byrne is known to be the best formel 1 designer of all time. He showed Newey a lesson how to built a car and is the Most succesfull F1 Designer of all Time. Where is he after he left Ferrari?

Since last year he, and newey have 10 WCC each.

In terms of wins/points/poles I cant say who is more successful, is it Byrne?

[hogstar]

I think Frank Williams should give him a call after what now looks like another season in the wilderness.

[chdphd]

Didn't he start a scuba diving school in Thailand?

[Aietes]

He worked together with Patrick Head on the 2013 regulations, as far as i know.

Edited by Aietes, 09 April 2011 - 14:21.

[Concorde]

Last I heard (from a friend of Rory's) was that he retired in Italy and occasionally does some consultancy work for FIA and Ferrari.

[bogi]

He is 67years old, give guy a break.

[topical]

Didn't he start a scuba diving school in Thailand?

Scuba diving - isn't that the excuse all ageing Western men heading out to Thailand use?

[Peter3hg]

Scuba diving - isn't that the excuse all ageing Western men heading out to Thailand use?;)

He's been married to a Thai lady since at least the mid 90s so in this case it would a reasonable excuse. I remember reading that he intended to retire to Phuket after his contract with Ferrari finished in 2007 way back in 2005.

Edited by Peter3hg, 09 April 2011 - 15:17.

[arknor]

ive heard rumours that hes locked up in neweys basement

[kandru]

the most successful ever?

He was really successful ,yes, but not the best ever...or at least there's no way to measure that since he was in Ferrari on a period of time where the Bridgestone tyres were constructed around his car and just his car and not the other way round...so his life was much easier than that of the designers at present

[Atreiu]

He is 67years old, give guy a break.

Bernie would disagree.

[topical]

Bernie would disagree.

So would Sir Alex Ferguson.

[HistoryFan]

Aldo Costa today said that Byrne built a new super sporting car.

[KWSN - DSM]

Since last year he, and newey have 10 WCC each.

In terms of wins/points/poles I cant say who is more successful, is it Byrne?

Newey and Byrne are the most successful designers ever, having drafted the cars winning the most Championships and wins. I am not at home, so do not have the details fully up to date, however in another thread last year I started by claiming Byrne to be the leader, however when checking who was credited with which cars.

Newey are leading Byrne with some 10 - 15 wins in total if I take my recollection of the numbers from early last year, and then add what the Red Bull drivers have achieved since then.

'Just' counting wins and championships, is not really ever going to be the full and whole story. Like there really is no comparison between Fangion, Clark and Schumacher, we should all be able to agree that they belong to 'The Great ones', and I would argue that both of Byrne and Newey does as well in their part of F1.

[tarek]

Rory lives in Phuket, he left after believing that Costa was prepared to take over, I doubt he would come back though, worth a try if I was Luca

Tarek

[Anomnader]

Newey and Byrne are the most successful designers ever, having drafted the cars winning the most Championships and wins. I am not at home, so do not have the details fully up to date, however in another thread last

Yep they are succesful every, but greatest as you said is very hard to define, especially when there is so many others who can claim various distinctions, you could make a list of notable designers, they would top the list but you'd have to mention murry, chapman, barnard and many others

[BigCHrome]

He is more likely to go to Mercedes to be with MSC and Brawn, than Ferrari. But he won't come back so it doesn't matter. He doesn't have a feel for these regulations anyway so its not a given that he'd instantly design a quick car.

[ionutz2oo0]

He is more likely to go to Mercedes to be with MSC and Brawn, than Ferrari. But he won't come back so it doesn't matter. He doesn't have a feel for these regulations anyway so its not a given that he'd instantly design a quick car.

He'd probably design a better car than jackass who designed the W01 and W02.

[PNSD]

Before we compare designers we must understand that Byrne had tyres designed around the car (and driver). 'Back then' the tyres were tailored for the Ferrari, and Schumacher. He was obviously a great designer, I mean every car tried copied certain elements from the Ferrari's he designed but its impossible to attribute success down to only him (or Newey).

[luicchi]

Rory is already at Maranello...Newey good days are over!!!

[Group B]

He'd probably design a better car than jackass who designed the W01 and W02.

This is undeniably true. Merc, rather like Honda, seem destined to produce a 'good' car year after year, but never ever make that final step. Does rather smack of a 'good' but ultimately limited designer(s).

[Hairpin]

Before we compare designers we must understand that Byrne had tyres designed around the car (and driver). 'Back then' the tyres were tailored for the Ferrari, and Schumacher. He was obviously a great designer, I mean every car tried copied certain elements from the Ferrari's he designed but its impossible to attribute success down to only him (or Newey).

We must not understand that at all and we saw that Ferrari had no particular advantage when all the other teams got Bridgestones. Michelin adapted their tires to their top teams as well, but both of them basically tried to make a good tire within the regulations that FiA had set up. Byrne was, and is, a great designer, but I am quite sure that Bridgestone are better at making tires.

[Ferrari_F1_fan_2001]

the most successful ever?

He was really successful ,yes, but not the best ever...or at least there's no way to measure that since he was in Ferrari on a period of time where the Bridgestone tyres were constructed around his car and just his car and not the other way round...so his life was much easier than that of the designers at present

Who cares?

A win is a win is a win.

[Anomnader]

We must not understand that at all and we saw that Ferrari had no particular advantage when all the other teams got Bridgestones.

yeah right, you really believe that bridgestone didn't custom build the tyres to suit ferrari, why do you think all the other teams left them.

[Madras]

Phuket, he's gone.

[New Britain]

Rory Byrne is known to be the best formel 1 designer of all time. He showed Newey a lesson how to built a car and is the Most succesfull F1 Designer of all Time. Where is he after he left Ferrari?

I thought that the reason that his cars won all those championships was that Michael Schumacher was the best driver of all time.
Or was it because Ross Brawn was the best technical director of all time?
It could have been because Jean Todt was the best team principal of all time.
Possibly because Enzo Ferrari was the best deceased team founder of all time.
If you've got the most wins, that could only be because everything you had was the best of all time. Ferrari were so good, they even had the best FIA President of all time on the team.

[Nitropower]

The designer was key in their wins. The others were very good ingredients, but the key as usual was the car. No matter if we prefer to make our heroes and villains instead.

[Hairpin]

yeah right, you really believe that bridgestone didn't custom build the tyres to suit ferrari, why do you think all the other teams left them.

Because Michelin had a better tyre? I don't think you understand the concept of "custom build" here either. Bridgestone built tyres and Ferrari comes with suggestions for small modifications, just as the Michelin teams did. These modification can be best compared to setup changes. In any case, since Ferrari did not have any advantage when they all used Bridgestone (and most Michelin drivers hated them) I think it is prefectly possible that Rory created winning vehicles in spite of Bridgestone.

[steveninthematrix]

China FP1 is finished, and Vettel is 2seconds ahead of all the other teams +....

if we get to turkey and redbull have won all 4 races, well, then I'm saying the season is over.... Vettel hasn't really been pushed yet and besides some reliability gremlins, they appear to be miles ahead.....

Newey is the most valuable man in F1..... the only man who ever competed with him and built cars which beat his, was Rory Byrne...

so, where is Rory? Ross, give him a call and make an offer...... because otherwise, this might just be on of those seasons like 1988 (15 of 16 races for Mclaren), 2002, 2004 etc....

well done to Redbull; but the battle could really be for 2nd by the time Turkey ends...

[Palmero]

Would be a great story for him to come out of 'retirement' and take on Red Bull with one of the big teams.

[PayasYouRace]

Let the man enjoy his retirement.

[Hairpin]

This is a good place to start searching

[jonnoj]

Isn't this the 3rd new thread on the same subject in the last couple of weeks?

He's retired - move on, there's nothing to see.

[Andy865]

Use the search function.

But hes designing a new Ferrari sports car. Many whisper it is their fastest yet.

[olliek88]

I've heard he works at petrol station in aberystwyth, quickest pump attendant west of bristol.

[sosidge]

I've heard he lives in Croydon.

[One]

So Lewis will not be there.

I have this thoughts that it is a younger generation who needs to come forward. Everybody needs to do what is best for him at a time like this. I am missing new face who can take challenge to Newey. Tombasis, wil he step his game up?

[glorius&victorius]

if i think of rory byrne i think of casey stoner...

[One]

?

[ViMaMo]

Like John Rambo he is believed to be 'in retirement' somewhere in Thailand.

[glorius&victorius]

?

as in how Casey would look like in his late 60s

[One]

as in how Casey would look like in his late 60s

You predictable!


honestly he is in Thailand having nice drink. I still have to work.

[glorius&victorius]

see?

Edited by glorius&victorius, 15 April 2011 - 13:13.

[One]

Put it up in your mac and the iphoto saya that they are the same person!

[2ms]

The difference between Ferrari today and the last time they were the winning team is the driver (not the designer).

Ferrari were not winning when Byrne left. They were empty handed his last two years even with same driver as before. Then when he left, they started winning again with both WDC and WCC. So it's the opposite as if they were winning and then Byrne left and they stopped winning.

Now Ferrari has the same designers as in 2007 (ie when they were back to winning again). In other words, all this talk about Byrne seems like exactly the kind of barking up wrong tree/placing blame in wrong area as has gotten Ferrari into their problems in the first place.

Edited by 2ms, 15 April 2011 - 18:17.

[Augurk]

The difference between Ferrari today and the last time they were the winning team is the driver (not the designer).

Ferrari were not winning when Byrne left. They were empty handed his last two years even with same driver as before. Then when he left, they started winning again with both WDC and WCC. So it's the opposite as if they were winning and then Byrne left and they stopped winning.

Now Ferrari has the same designers as in 2007 (ie when they were back to winning again). In other words, all this talk about Byrne seems like exactly the kind of barking up wrong tree/placing blame in wrong area as has gotten Ferrari into their problems in the first place.

To be fair, 2005 was ruined completely by the Bridgestones. 2006 Renault had the illegal mass dempers the first half of the season. As soon as they were banned they were right back on it. And the designer in 2006 surely had a big influence on the 2007 car that took the WDC home.