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[AUSTRIA]

I'm missing detailed results from sportscar races in the years 1946 - 1952 and - not so important, but also interesting - before 1934.
(Le Mans, Targa Florio, Mille miglia and Tourist Trophy are well documented and therefore not part of my actual question.)

To the years between 1926 and 1933: This is an exiting puzzle! There was a splitting between GP/Voiturette and Sportscar racing, but not clearly defined. In the years 1926/1927 the 'on-board-mechanic' disappeared and monoposti became allowed. GP racing and F1 allowed two-seaters and mudguards/streamliners even the first years of championship (till 1958?, don't know exactly).
And then there was a second splitting, between sportscars and rallye-cars. Rallies ... from when on we can call them rallies? I think, in the earliest beginnings of motorracing we had real rallies !? Rough Road-Surfaces, Point-to-Point-Races about many 100 of miles, an soon speeds over 100 km/h; can you imagine that? Wow.

Who can help me closing my above mentioned gap by calling some sources (www or books)

Thank you for your friendly helping me

E.T.

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[Felix Muelas]

Austria

Hello again ! I see that you have the ability of using your torch to try to see through the deepest holes of the wall, so to speak.

I strongly suggest you have a conversation with my friend Leif Snellman about this...

;-)

Un abrazo

Felix Muelas
The 8W Team

PS : Oh yes, this is the moment for me to borrow Don Capps' motto (just this time): If this was easy, we'd have the solution already...

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[Leif Snellman]

Sorry, my books about the subject start off at 1934

[Ray Bell]

Grand Prix Racing Facts & Figures - Monkhouse & King-Farlow. Published 1950, 53, 59 & 64 (I have the 64 edition).
This gives race results way back, anything that smelled like a serious race, by the look of things, and lists the category for which it was held - for example:
W. K. Vanderbilt Cup:
600 cu ins (9.8l) 1909 Long Island 278miles, then lists first three places.
or:
Tunis Grand Prix:
Sports Cars 1929 Bardo ---- J. Scaron (Amilcar) etc
Note that distance is missing, sometimes placegetters are missing, but the vast majority is there.

[AUSTRIA]

Hallo Felix !

Thanks for answering me. Unfortunatly my forch seems to be a week candle.

I'm sorry, I didn't have the possibility yet to converse with Leif S.; must be a pleasure. I have a lot of sportscar-data about the years 1934 - 1940 from his site THE GOLDEN ERA OF GRANDPRIX RACING: http://www.kolumbus....nellman/spo.htm


Leif:

I know the bibliography of yout famous page, can you tell me, what kind of sources could help me closing my gap? Maybe there is something about sportscar-racing in the period from 1946 to 1952?


And last, NOT least Ray!

Thanks for helping me again. I think, the book you suggested, will be a great aid.
Can you tell me the publisher?


At that point:
I find, this forum is a 'Dickes Ding'
(sorry, but translating is not able to express the sense). It is something of famous ...

Thank you, all the makers, go on doing. I enjoy just reading through the threads, but of course the most amazing is to post a topic and to get an answer in a short time - often in a few hours.

E.T.



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[Ray Bell]

Publishers were G. T. Foulis & Co Ltd, sorry I missed out on putting that in. There may have been a later edition, but I don't think so. There are thousands of race results listed.

[Leif Snellman]

Austria,

I have to admit that I don't know much about sports car racing. I have always concentrated on GP racing. The reason for the sports car results being on my homepage is that they came as a "bonus" when I did the research about the French GP teams in the pre-war era. Much of the more "exotic" stuff comes from Anthony Blight's book (costs a fortune!) So I thought, why don't
put them on my page as well as they probably are hard to find.
One book that I strongly recommended to anyone interested in sports car racing is the Brooklands Racing books's "Mille Miglia 1927-1951 - The Alfa And Ferrari years."
There is alsa a second part (1952-57) The corresponding Le Mans book is in five parts and I haven't seen the pre-war Le Mans parts but I guess they are equally god.

Sorry that I couldnt help you further.
Regards,
L.