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[Johny Bravo]

Though IF Kimi has the speed to do it overtaking is not entirely hopeless at this circuit, is it?

[eoin]

Originally posted by awake27
IMO there is no way Raikkonen can pass the two McLaren's at the start (short straight, tight 1st corner, dirty side). And he must stay ahead of Kubica or goodbye podium.

But the Ferrari is by far the best car off the line since France last year.

Johny Bravo: Kimi does seem to have a small advantage in straight line speed over the Mclarens but i doubt it would be enough to get by. He probably has enough in the tank to overtake at the pitstops- oh the excitement!

[kar]

Originally posted by eoin


But the Ferrari is by far the best car off the line since France last year.

Johny Bravo: Kimi does seem to have a small advantage in straight line speed over the Mclarens but i doubt it would be enough to get by. He probably has enough in the tank to overtake at the pitstops- oh the excitement!

Indeed, plus of course the extra 25bhp they got or whatever from their oil circulation update

I think Kimi will outdrag Hamilton, who will anyway attempt to aim his car like a missile across the nose of Kimi at the start, but I don't think Kimi will quite get Kovaleinen.

[Lifew12]

I think Kovalainen will pass Massa.

[kar]

Originally posted by Lifew12
I think Kovalainen will pass Massa.

Genuinely? Dirty side + against the exocet missile that is Ferrari off the line?

I could imagine though Massa getting it all wrong under braking for the tricky first corner though

[Schumeister]

Originally posted by kar

I think Kimi will outdrag Hamilton, who will anyway attempt to aim his car like a missile across the nose of Kimi at the start.

You mean the Shumi chop that Hami has adopted! The one ITV used to label as dangerous when Schumi did it but now Hami does the same it is classed as great tactics!

I don't think Hami will get much change out of Kimi if he tries tp cut him up at the start, should be fun to watch though...looking forward to it

[Anomnader]

Originally posted by Schumeister


You mean the Shumi chop that Hami has adopted! The one ITV used to label as dangerous when Schumi did it but now Hami does the same it is classed as great tactics!

Or you mean the same chop that MS fans thought was legal and great but now that Lewis does thinks is bad and should be banned?

[SchuOz]

I doubt we'll see any changes at the start...the run to Turn 1 is very short.
Only if, someone makes a mistake.

[SeanValen]

The Schumi chop is moving once the line, I remember when MS did it in 2000, all the drivers got jealous, including DC, then DC later used to chop at some race.

Mansell and Senna or Prost were involved in some chops, very exciting, with the rules as they are now, Schumacher resurrected it to perfection as a battle tool. Schumi never got enough credit for it at the time.

Now when anyone does it, we think back to Schumacher, another legacy of the devasting talented and still talented in testing Schumacher M

[kar]

Originally posted by SeanValen
The Schumi chop is moving once the line, I remember when MS did it in 2000, all the drivers got jealous, including DC, then DC later used to chop at some race.

Mansell and Senna or Prost were involved in some chops, very exciting, with the rules as they are now, Schumi never got enough credit for it at the time.

As we saw in GP2 at (I think it was Turkey too) the chop isn't exciting, it's potentially lethal.

Nigel Roebuck wrote a scathing piece on it last year, and then a race later (Silverstone) Hamilton did his most overt 'pork chop' manoeuvre on Raikkonen off the line and it was a very near thing between those two.

Afterwards, despite the volumes of outrage he'd expressed when Schumacher pulled off such ridiculous start line stunts he saw fit to drop the subject...

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[noikeee]

I'm not sure if anyone has commented on this, and I don't think it'll happen, but this is the best chance for a maiden win that Kovalainen has had so far - it's the first time he qualifies on the first row.

He needs something odd to happen: to jump Massa at the start (unlikely for a number of factors), or Massa having an incident or whatever. I'm expecting both Ferraris and his team-mate to be quicker than him during the race. However I also think he might be the heaviest of the top 4, he could benefit from that to block those quicker drivers during the entire race.

[kar]

The first corner here is a lot like Brazil the start could well be very interesting indeed.

[Formulaonefan]

that is very true kar,

[AFCA]

Originally posted by kar
The first corner here is a lot like Brazil the start could well be very interesting indeed.

True, but the first corner comes too quickly, which prevented Raikkonen from benefitting from his decent start.

[kar]

Originally posted by AFCA


True, but the first corner comes too quickly, which prevented Raikkonen from benefitting from his decent start.

I think McLaren synchronised their start there, they knew Lewis was much lighter and no threat to Heikki who was on a proper strategy so Heikki moved left to cover Kimi and Lewis lept into Heiiki's space effectively boxing Kimi in.

It was a clever strategy, albeit cost Heikki any hope at winning the race.

Not that Lewis minded that though.

[DoubleWDC]

Originally posted by rodlamas
Nice qual, I think for the first time this year we have the top 4 cars (the supposed ones) on the top 4 starting positions.

It will all depend on the start, where I think Hamilton will overtake Kova and that Kimi might lose out to RK, although BMW's starts have been crap.

My fuel guesses would be

Massa 18
Raikkonen 19
Hamilton 19 or 20
Kovalainen 21

All other drivers past lap 23-24 and DC on one stop.

Reality:

Hamilton 16
Massa 19
Räikkönen 21

[undersquare]

Originally posted by kar


I think McLaren synchronised their start there, they knew Lewis was much lighter and no threat to Heikki who was on a proper strategy so Heikki moved left to cover Kimi and Lewis lept into Heiiki's space effectively boxing Kimi in.

It was a clever strategy, albeit cost Heikki any hope at winning the race.

Not that Lewis minded that though.

Heikki moved left? He moved right, leaving the inside for Kimi. Hammy just drove round the outside on the clean line with his light fuel load as he was always going to do. Maybe Kovy planned to get in front of Kubi.

The plan was for Kovy to 2-stop, giving him a strategy advantage.

[Fatgadget]

Originally posted by DoubleWDC


Reality:

Hamilton 16
Massa 19
Räikkönen 21

Doesnt the fact that Hamster was on a 3 stopper count for something?

[Atreiu]

Originally posted by kar


I think McLaren synchronised their start there, they knew Lewis was much lighter and no threat to Heikki who was on a proper strategy so Heikki moved left to cover Kimi and Lewis lept into Heiiki's space effectively boxing Kimi in.

It was a clever strategy, albeit cost Heikki any hope at winning the race.

Not that Lewis minded that though.

Obviously.
Kovalainen has absolutely no ambitions and just sits there waiting the orders. Next time he might even take it further and punt a Ferrari out to get cookies from Ron Dennis.

[as65p]

Originally posted by Fatgadget


Doesnt the fact that Hamster was on a 3 stopper count for something?

Sure, it counts for amazingly mediocre qualifying laps from Lewis ;) ...

for which he more than made up with his race performance, no doubt.