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[windmill]

While watching Trulli during practice this afternoon I was unable to recall him having a serious accident.

If we define a serious accident as one that requires hospitalisation, even if only overnight for observation, are there any current drivers of more than a couple of seasons who haven't had one ?

Are there any recent drivers who didn't have a serious accident in their career ?

[Ross Stonefeld]

Very few drivers have had to be hospitalised from their crashes. If we just want 'big' go back to Silverstone 2004 for Trulli when he had a car failure (I think) and rolled it in the gravel exiting Bridge.

[Mr G]

Silverstone 2004, out of Bridge corner he lost his car and rolled out into the gravel trap. Dont know if he had to go to hospital but it was a very serious looking accident.

[Hames Junt]

Originally posted by windmill
While watching Trulli during practice this afternoon I was unable to recall him having a serious accident.

If we define a serious accident as one that requires hospitalisation, even if only overnight for observation, are there any current drivers of more than a couple of seasons who haven't had one ?

Are there any recent drivers who didn't have a serious accident in their career ?

Massa? Sutil? Rosberg? Nakajima? Raikkonen? Piquet Jr? Vettel? Bourdais?

[Buttoneer]

Originally posted by Mr G
Silverstone 2004, out of Bridge corner he lost his car and rolled out into the gravel trap. Dont know if he had to go to hospital but it was a very serious looking accident.

Yeah nasty one. He was saved by his roll bar.

[MikeTekRacing]

Originally posted by Hames Junt

Raikkonen?

Kimi's practice crash last year in Monza surely needed doctor's check at least

[mursuka80]

It was nasty.

[Tenmantaylor]

Another- also at silverstone after bridge. He was fine but Id say this was quite a big accident, quite violent

Didnt he also have a big one at pit exit at silverstone couple years back? Multiple barrel role style?

[mursuka80]

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Another- also at silverstone after bridge. He was fine but Id say this was quite a big accident, quite violent

We posted the same link

[Tenmantaylor]

Great minds think alike - but you beat me

[postajegenye]

I think the majority of the current drivers haven't had a crash after which they had to stay in hospital for at least one night. Of course they have a check-up and are often translated to hospital but usually theyre released after the check-up.

Alonso had to stay one night in hospital after his Brazil '03 crash.
This year Heikki in Barcelona, Glock in Hockenheim.
Kubica last year in Canada.
Barrichello '94 Imola.
Button, 2003 Monaco.
I can't remember anyone else.

But all of them were released the following day.

[Tenmantaylor]

Originally posted by postajegenye
"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting. " - George Orwell

Cynical but true to a degree. It is indeed progress for fair play in sport that we've developed the decency not to shoot one another after losing a gentle game of bowls.

[ensign14]

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Great minds think alike - but you beat me

Max?

Going back historically, I don't think Phil Hill was ever hospitalized in a career that took in the most murderous era of Grand Prix and sportscar racing. Although he had a ginormous one in Austria that destroyed his Cooper.

[27GV]

Calls for a list.

? is where I'm unsure if they went to hospital.

Massa - Canada 04?
Raikkonen - Germany 03?, Monza 07
Hamilton - Europe 07
Heikki - Spain 08
Alonso - Brazil 03
Piquet - ?
Nick Heidfeld - Indy 06?
Kubica - Canada 07
Rosberg - Brazil 06?
Nakajima - ?
Glock - Germany 08
Trulli - Britain 04?
Coulthard - Can't name one of the top of my head but is bound to have had one
Webber - Brazil 03?
Vettel - ?
Bourdais - ?
Fisi - Spa 00, France 02
Sutil - ?
Button - Monaco 03
Barrichello - Imola 94

So only really the new guys have avoided big crashes.

[Buttoneer]

Originally posted by postajegenye
I think the majority of the current drivers haven't had a crash after which they had to stay in hospital for at least one night. Of course they have a check-up and are often translated to hospital but usually theyre released after the check-up.

Alonso had to stay one night in hospital after his Brazil '03 crash.
This year Heikki in Barcelona, Glock in Hockenheim.
Kubica last year in Canada.
Barrichello '94 Imola.
Button, 2003 Monaco.
I can't remember anyone else.

But all of them were released the following day.

Wasn't Hamilton hospitalised overnight following his Nurburgshunt?

[postajegenye]

Originally posted by Buttoneer

Wasn't Hamilton hospitalised overnight following his Nurburgshunt?

I think he was released later that day, just had to be examined the following morning too in the Medical Centre.

[Rinehart]

Originally posted by 27GV
Calls for a list.

? is where I'm unsure if they went to hospital.

Massa - Canada 04?
Raikkonen - Germany 03?, Monza 07
Hamilton - Europe 07
Heikki - Spain 08
Alonso - Brazil 03
Piquet - ?
Nick Heidfeld - Indy 06?
Kubica - Canada 07
Rosberg - Brazil 06?
Nakajima - ?
Glock - Germany 08
Trulli - Britain 04?
Coulthard - Can't name one of the top of my head but is bound to have had one
Webber - Brazil 03?
Vettel - ?
Bourdais - ?
Fisi - Spa 00
Sutil - ?
Button - Monaco 03
Barrichello - Imola 94

So only really the new guys have avoided big crashes.

Perhaps DC's chopper shunt should count?!

[F1Johnny]

Originally posted by Rinehart


Perhaps DC's chopper shunt should count?!

That was a jet. The 2 pilots were killed.

[Atreiu]

Germany 03 for Raikkonen? Do you mean 2004 when the wing fell off and hus spun at turn 1?


The most dangerous Coulthard crash I remember is Nurburgring 03 when Alonso brake tested him. He walked away and all, but it could have been much worse.

[Mr G]

Originally posted by 27GV
Calls for a list.

? is where I'm unsure if they went to hospital.

Fisi - Spa 00

Don't remember that one right now. But I would guess that his shunt in saturday practice in France 2002 was his worst one. He did not start the race. They had a camera in the medical car so you could see his face and he was just gone.

[Kooper]

Originally posted by Atreiu
Germany 03 for Raikkonen? Do you mean 2004 when the wing fell off and hus spun at turn 1?


The most dangerous Coulthard crash I remember is Nurburgring 03 when Alonso brake tested him. He walked away and all, but it could have been much worse.

Germany 03 & 04 for Kimi both times he came very close to hitting the concrete wall rather than the tyre barriers. ('03 was a Ralf special).

Well, DC did attempt to decapitate Wurz at Australia... that was [[[[[[ ]]]]]]] close to tragedy.

I always go the feeling Jarno never fully trusted his Renault after that Silverstone shunt. That was really nasty.

[PEW]

Fisi - France 2003 missed the race because of a crash in qualifying

[Hames Junt]

Originally posted by Atreiu
Germany 03 for Raikkonen? Do you mean 2004 when the wing fell off and hus spun at turn 1?


The most dangerous Coulthard crash I remember is Nurburgring 03 when Alonso brake tested him. He walked away and all, but it could have been much worse.

If were not just talking F1, DC broke his leg in an accident at Spa in the early 90s in F3/F3000...

[eoin]

Originally posted by Atreiu

The most dangerous Coulthard crash I remember is Nurburgring 03 when Alonso brake tested him. He walked away and all, but it could have been much worse.

He had a big crash in monaco this year.

[Buttoneer]

Originally posted by postajegenye


I think he was released later that day, just had to be examined the following morning too in the Medical Centre.

Just found the press reports and you're right - he was taken in, quick CT scan and out.

[Risil]

Didn't Vettel lose a finger or something in a crash at Spa in WSR?

And I bet most of these guys have absolutely murdered their cars in testing accidents we haven't even heard about.

[D.M.N.]

Originally posted by 27GV
Nick Heidfeld - Indy 06?

Austria 2002? He didn't go to hospital but Sato (the person he collided with) did.

[Hames Junt]

Originally posted by D.M.N.


Austria 2002? He didn't go to hospital but Sato (the person he collided with) did.

He would have at least spent some time in the medical centre, if not the hospital.

[Slick]

What about Schumachers crash in the British GP, he broke his leg, didn't he stay in hospital overnight?

[MikeTekRacing]

i guess michael was not mentioned because he doesn't drive anymore...
we can then say panis had a bad one in canada, ralf had his moments at indy

[Bernd Rosemeyer]

Sato had a lot of crashes http://it.youtube.co...JHy1pUS--A&NR=1

[Andretti Fan]

I don't recall Mario having any really serious injuries, apart from some burns from his Indy crash in 69. IIRC they had Aldo sit in for him in the official front row photo. Of course Aldo had a couple of really bad ones, which is why he no longer looks as much like Mario as he used too.

[Tenmantaylor]

Originally posted by Bernd Rosemeyer
Sato had a lot of crashes http://it.youtube.co...JHy1pUS--A&NR=1

they could make a film out of that one "The gap that wasnt there"

[Clatter]

Originally posted by Andretti Fan
I don't recall Mario having any really serious injuries

Not for want of trying.;)

[stevewf1]

I don't recall Montoya ever being hospitalized - from racing anyway, now "tennis"...

[panzani]

Originally posted by windmill
Are there any recent drivers who didn't have a serious accident in their career ?

Depending on how you measure serious, no recent driver ever had a serious accident. Some accidents were really scaring, of course, so if serious is used in that way, some had for sure, but most didn't, anyways.

[Clatter]

Originally posted by panzani
Depending on how you measure serious, no recent driver ever had a serious accident. Some accidents were really scaring, of course, so if serious is used in that way, some had for sure, but most didn't, anyways.

I'm willing to bet that Kubica would disagree with you. If his crash didnt qualify as a serious accident then please tell us what your criteria is.

[turin]

Originally posted by stevewf1
I don't recall Montoya ever being hospitalized - from racing anyway, now "tennis"...

surely he needed some attention after that lovely conversation with a cameramen tho

[lil'chris]

Originally posted by Hames Junt


If were not just talking F1, DC broke his leg in an accident at Spa in the early 90s in F3/F3000...

I think it was in Vauxhall Lotus ( or Opel Lotus as the Euro equivalent was known )

[Clatter]

Did DH have any bad accidents? Can't think of any off-hand.

[Juan Kerr]

Alain Prost had a great career regarding accidents and so did Senna, obviously he was killed by one but the worse injury he suffered up until that point was an over-streched thumb.

[Atreiu]

Originally posted by Clatter
Did DH have any bad accidents? Can't think of any off-hand.

His accidents did damage only to his ego/mindset/reputation.

What about Mario Andretti in the 70s? Didn't he say you're not going fast enough if everything is under controle?

[stevewf1]

Originally posted by Juan Kerr
Alain Prost had a great career regarding accidents...

Didn't Prost break an ankle early in the 1980 season - at Kyalami?

[GiancarloF1]

Don't forget David Coulthard's shunt in 2003 Nurburgring, thanks to Alonso braking maneuver.

[FLB]

Originally posted by stevewf1


Didn't Prost break an ankle early in the 1980 season - at Kyalami?

Wrist, IIRC. Marc Surer broke both ankles on the same weekend. Prost also had a very nasty one at Watkins Glen that same year, where he had a concussion. He once said he basically spend the two following weeks in bed because he couldn't get out of it (dizziness).

Mario Andretti broke a couple of ribs in 1985 and was replaced by Alan Jones for the Elkhart Lake race. Jones finished second in what was his only IndyCar race. Andretti's biggest crash came during the 1992 Indy 500, where he broke 8 of his toes on a restart. He was lucky it didn't happen at full speed, unlike his son Jeff was later in the race.

[panzani]

Originally posted by Clatter
I'm willing to bet that Kubica would disagree with you. If his crash didnt qualify as a serious accident then please tell us what your criteria is.

Well, I would for sure call Senna and Ratzemberger's accidents serious. Scary ones, even photogenic ones, with the driver just driving on next session, or next race, I wouldn't, though. Thankfully, that's what we've had since then, basically. And that's why as well serious must be defined, imHo.;)

[Bob Nomates]

Senna's accident wasn't too septacular he was just unfortunate.
JV in 98 free practice at spa's eau rouge was pretty septacular and he and his team mate the following year.
JV had a thing about taking that corner flat.

[stevewf1]

Originally posted by FLB
Andretti's biggest crash came during the 1992 Indy 500, where he broke 8 of his toes on a restart. He was lucky it didn't happen at full speed, unlike his son Jeff was later in the race.

I live in Indy and while I didn't go to that 500, I remember what the weather was like for the 1992 race...

On Saturday, it was very nice with a temp in the 70s or so. Saturday night, a cold front came through and the temps dropped dramatically. Sunday morning, the wind chill was hovering in the low 40s - don't remember the actual air temp.

So the race was run under cold conditions and the drivers had trouble keeping heat in the tires on the restarts. For awhile, it seemed like there was a crash after every restart - which caused another yellow, which led to another restart, etc. I also remember that several drivers made the trip to Methodist hospital that day.

Watching the race later, there were MANY fans in the stands who were not prepared for the weather. They were sitting there wearing T-shirts and shorts freezing their buns off...

[Bob Nomates]

aye but did they do the thred justice?

[stevewf1]

No, that happened in 1982 (qualifying) when it was warm - and there was a little rain shower...