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[mercutio]

'Find the chicane between the 5-gear corners.

Or: which name should NOT be in this row (and why of course).

Cars:
1. BAR 002 / Ferrari 126C2 / Fittipaldi F8 / Tyrrell 018
2. Alfa Romeo 179C (1981) / BRM P160E (1973) / McLaren MP4/2 (1984) / Ferrari F399 (1999)

Drivers:
3. Olivier Panis / Didier Pironi / Michael Schumacher / Marc Surer
4. Jack Brabham / Emmerson Fittipaldi / Dan Gurney / Bruce McLaren

Circuits:
5. Aintree / Brands Hatch / Oulton Park / Silverstone
6. Monaco / Montreal / Suzuka / Zandvoort (the old long circuit)

It looks easier than it is.
Therefor an easy example:

M.Schumacher / Irvine / Salo / Badoer

Answer. They ALL did drive for Ferrari in 1999, but only BADOER did NOT drive a Ferrari during GP-weekends!

Good luck

Greetings,
Mercutio ;)

[Duane]

Cars:
1. BAR 002 / Ferrari 126C2 / Fittipaldi F8 / Tyrrell 018

Ferrari 126C2 - The only turbo?

2. Alfa Romeo 179C (1981) / BRM P160E (1973) / McLaren MP4/2 (1984) / Ferrari F399 (1999)

Ferrari F399 (1999) - All sponsored by Marlboro but only one not painted in the red/white cig packet colour scheme?

Drivers:
3. Olivier Panis / Didier Pironi / Michael Schumacher / Marc Surer

Marc Surer - All GP winners except Surer?

4. Jack Brabham / Emmerson Fittipaldi / Dan Gurney / Bruce McLaren

Emmerson Fittipaldi - All others won first GP for factory Teams (Brabham for Cooper; Gurney for Brabham, Porsche and Eagle; McLaren for McLaren)

Circuits:
5. Aintree / Brands Hatch / Oulton Park / Silverstone

Oulton Park - British tracks but Oulton never hosted the British GP?

6. Monaco / Montreal / Suzuka / Zandvoort (the old long circuit)

Montreal - The others were all designed by the same person (Hugenholtz?)?

[Ray Bell]

There's not much Hugenholz about Monaco.. very much the opposite, I'd say.
Did McLaren take the first McLaren GP win?

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[Duane]

All guesses for the most part!

I just figured Hugenholtz may have had something to do with the Monaco layout, as he designed Zandvoort and Suzuka but not Montreal - but then maybe he did!

[Ray Bell]

It must be earlier in the day there than here. I'm at 1:45am, approached from the night side, so maybe weariness is affecting my thought processes. Then again, you're at around 9 or 10 am, you've got it all going for you. And then I'm also a day older!
Hey, I've got it with the drivers:
Emerson (note the single 'm') did not build his own cars, as did the others. Wilson built the Fittipaldis.
Or is it Gurney was the odd man out - his cars were not named after him?
Or is it McLaren, the only one no longer with us?
Or Gurney, the only one from the Northern hemisphere?

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[Ray Bell]

I've got it! Emerson was the only one not to win in his own car...

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[Don Capps]

In March 1968 Bruce McLaren won the Race of Champions at Brands Hatch in an M7A; in April Denny Hulme won the BRDC International Trophy in an M7A; and in June McLaren won the Belgian GP at Spa-Francorchamps.

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Don Capps

Semper Gumbi: If this was easy, we’d have the solution already…

[mercutio]

Well, there are my first reactions!

Duane:
1. Far from good, although it's true, but it's all about they seem to be related, but in one way are not.
2. Correct. The only car not in that classic Marlboro livery.
3. Wrong reason.
4. Same as above
5. Well, actually Oulton Park did host some British GP's called Oulton Park Gold Cup, some more details please!
6. Simply wrong.

Ray Bell:
4. True, I would also say "correct" when you had said "Brabham is the only driver who became world champion in his 'own' car."

You're quiet quick! Keep it slow..

Greetings,
Merc

[mercutio]

Dear Don,

Is it possible I don't understand you?

Please explain.
Thank you in advance!

Greetings,
Merc

[Ray Bell]

Don was just answering my question about McLaren winning in a McLaren... I get confused between the McLaren and Gurney wins at Spa in McLarens... it's all so long ago!
When you think about it, McLaren didn't win all that many big European races, but they were the good ones - Monaco, Le Mans, Spa...

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[Don Capps]

Merc, Sorry! I was just answering Ray's query.

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[PDA]

The Oulton Park Gokd Cup races were not GPs, so the answer givenis one of the correct possibilities.

On drivers, again more than one possible correct answer, e.g. Gurney the only one over 6 feet tall!

BTW, Brabham did not win the first GP for Cooper, that was HRH S Moss.

[mercutio]

OK, OK, I say Oulton Park is correct...

Greetings

Merc

[Leif Snellman]

My (not too serious) effort:

3. Olivier Panis / Didier Pironi / Michael Schumacher / Marc Surer

Pironi is dead, the other ones are living.

4. Jack Brabham / Emmerson Fittipaldi / Dan Gurney / Bruce McLaren

Emmerson is spelt wrongly,
the other ones are correctly spelt!
(Sorry for that one )

[FlagMan]

On question 5 there are possibly two correct answers.

The obvious one is the one given above - that Oulton Park never ran a GP - the Gold Cup F1 races where non-championship.

A possible alternate answer (although I am not 100% sure of this) - is Aintree - it being the only one of the four tracks not to have run non-championship F1 races - will try to confirm this at the weekend - I know a few surviving marshals from the Aintree era, who may be at Oulton Park on Saturday

[Marcel Schot]

6. The part (the old long circuit) rang the bell for me

Suzuka is the odd one out. Monaco, Montreal and the old Zandvoort all have a section called 'Casino'

[Duane]

revised number three:

Marc Surer: All drivers suffered injuries (broken legs and other injuries) in race cars while in F1, but Surer suffered his F1 career ending crash in a Ford RS2000(?) rally car, while Pironi, Panis and Schumacher suffered leg injuries in F1 cars?

[Duane]

I thought Moss's win for Cooper was for Rob Walkers private entry team, that's why I specified Brabham as the first factory win for Cooper; I may have confused this with the fact that Moss won the first GP for Lotus will driving a private entry for Rob Walker.

[PDA]

Moss's win was in Rob Walker's car. I misread your answer as first win, not first works win. Sorry.

[Marco94]

1:
The BAR002 is the chican for this one, the other cars were all designed by Harvey Postelswaith (Harvey, if I misspelled your name be gentle)

The rest will follow shortly.

[Marco94]

4:
Emmerson Fittipaldi does not belong in the list. The others have won races in car build by themselfs.

[mercutio]

Well, my reactions on the last answers:

Leif: Although correct, not what I was looking for!
Marcel: Same as above. Maybe I will give a hint soon.
Flagman: I'm interested in that last thing...
Marco Rooney: Have you been looking for Red27's topic on the formule1.nl forum??? It has been there before... Your answers on 1 and 4 are completely correct.

Detail on 1: It is said that Adrian Newey did use the design of the test-Honda. That's why it's in the row...

Greetings,
Merc

[Leif Snellman]

A more serious effort this time:

6. Monaco / Montreal / Suzuka / Zandvoort (the old long circuit)

The first that comes to my mind is that Monaco was used before WW2 while all the others are post war but I hardly think that's the expected answer. Then it is obvious that Zandvoort isn't in use any more as a GP track but that I don't think that can be the answer either.
No, I think that the odd one out is Suzuka as the other tracks are all situated close to the water!

[Marco94]

Mercutio,

I honestly didn't. I remebered a posting like that, but didn't look it up. Q1 was really easy, especially if your an engineer like me. In that case you tend to put a rather large amount interest on the designers of the cars. And for the same reason, Q4 did not produce to many problems either.

[FlagMan]

Re Qn 5 - I was wrong about Aintree - talked to someone at Oulton on Saturday who marshalled at the early Aintree meetings - turns out that they ran non-championship F1 races before they started running the GP there - though it could be argued that they were really Formula Libre races as they appeared to be open to F2 cars as well - as where many of the non-championship F1 races (and even some GPs) at the time.

[This message has been edited by FlagMan (edited 04-10-2000).]

[Ray Bell]

Like the Aintree 200 - should have noticed that myself... but this all gets too complicated!

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