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#1 potmotr

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:17

With the season end almost upon us, I was wondering if there is a set schedule for group F1 tests this winter?

Does the testing ban also spill into the off season?

Also, does anyone know which tests will be open to the public?

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#2 Clatter

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:21

With the season end almost upon us, I was wondering if there is a set schedule for group F1 tests this winter?

Does the testing ban also spill into the off season?

Also, does anyone know which tests will be open to the public?


There is next to no winter testing this year. Between the last race and the end of the year only young driver testing can take place, and then there are only 4 4 day tests before the start of the new season. I havent seen a printed schedule yet, but believe the first proper test is not scheduled until Feb.

#3 potmotr

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:22

There is next to no winter testing this year. Between the last race and the end of the year only young driver testing can take place, and then there are only 4 4 day tests before the start of the new season. I havent seen a printed schedule yet, but believe the first proper test is not scheduled until Feb.


So the four days tests are only for young drivers?



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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:22

With the season end almost upon us, I was wondering if there is a set schedule for group F1 tests this winter?

Does the testing ban also spill into the off season?

Also, does anyone know which tests will be open to the public?

February 2010 is when the F1 drivers will start testing (8 days per driver I believe).

Prior to that it's only 3 days with young drivers. So their won't be much to talk about until February 2010.

#5 potmotr

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:23

February 2010 is when the F1 drivers will start testing (8 days per driver I believe).

Prior to that it's only 3 days with young drivers. So their won't be much to talk about until February 2010.


Sheesh, the off-season will be utterly dull!

I wonder if there is a schedule floating around.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:23

Should give extra test days for the new teams imo. Apart from the free transport what extra's do they get?

#7 Clatter

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:25

So the four days tests are only for young drivers?


Sorry, no the 4 day tests are from the new year to start of the new season. Any driver, but only one car per team. This means that each driver will only have 8 days in the new car before the new season (assuming the time is shared equally by the teams). There is a 3 day test for young drivers between the last race and end of year available, although I've not seen one scheduled.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:26

Should give extra test days for the new teams imo. Apart from the free transport what extra's do they get?


Why should they be subject to different rules to the rest of the grid?

#9 potmotr

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:32

Sorry, no the 4 day tests are from the new year to start of the new season. Any driver, but only one car per team. This means that each driver will only have 8 days in the new car before the new season (assuming the time is shared equally by the teams). There is a 3 day test for young drivers between the last race and end of year available, although I've not seen one scheduled.


Thanks for the info Clatter. :)

I'd like to know the schedule as Ryan Air fly direct to Jerez for peanuts.

Went a couple of years ago to watch a test, was a good (and cheap) day.



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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:38

Are the Feb/March 2010 tests with 1 car per team or 2, anyone know? Quite interesting if our new teammates are on track together...

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:41

Why should they be subject to different rules to the rest of the grid?


Because they're new teams?

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:44

Because they're new teams?


will they have the car finished in time to even be able to test more?

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:45

Are the Feb/March 2010 tests with 1 car per team or 2, anyone know? Quite interesting if our new teammates are on track together...

One car only

#14 undersquare

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 08:52

One car only


Thx.

Damn! :p

#15 Owen

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 09:27

It's going to be a long (cold and dark) winter... :(

#16 potmotr

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 09:56

It's going to be a long (cold and dark) winter... :(


I think it is totally weird how they don't allow two cars to test per team.

Surely the cost of running two cars at a test is only slightly higher than the cost of running one.

But a team could harvest twice the data, surely?

#17 Clatter

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:17

Thanks for the info Clatter. :)

I'd like to know the schedule as Ryan Air fly direct to Jerez for peanuts.

Went a couple of years ago to watch a test, was a good (and cheap) day.


I might look into that myself.

#18 Clatter

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:18

Because they're new teams?


So what? Just because they are new shouldn't mean they operate under a different rule book.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:29

This year regulation said no test allowed in two weeks period before first race - first race in 2010 will be at March 14.

So if regulations still the same - we will see very busy January-February. I suspect some teams could do their final tests in Bahrain and stay there until GP.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:31

Oh, hello thread! I can't believe you're due already!

#21 Clatter

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:41

This year regulation said no test allowed in two weeks period before first race - first race in 2010 will be at March 14.

So if regulations still the same - we will see very busy January-February. I suspect some teams could do their final tests in Bahrain and stay there until GP.


It's one week before the start of the season. Interesting thought about Bahrain.


#22 potmotr

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:48

I might look into that myself.


Have PM'd you...

#23 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:55

February?

This place is going to go nuts over the winter.

#24 Odvan

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:57

It's one week before the start of the season. Interesting thought about Bahrain.

If we looked at this year - tests need to start in January.

How about one day shakedown?

Edited by Odvan, 15 October 2009 - 11:04.


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Posted 15 October 2009 - 10:58

February?

This place is going to go nuts over the winter.

We might even end up discussing/following A1GP. Well, perhaps not. Let's not get too carried away!

#26 Clatter

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 11:07

If we looked at this year - tests need to start in January.

How about one day shakedown?


I don't think shakedown tests are allowed anymore.

#27 potmotr

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 11:19

Jerez has four days of F1 testing block booked for December 1-4, must be for the youngsters.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 11:20

How crap it all is...I miss the good old days..

#29 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 11:28

We might even end up discussing/following A1GP. Well, perhaps not. Let's not get too carried away!


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#30 Anomnader

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 19:55

With the rules allowing for 4 days of young driver testing I'd imagine a lot of teams will have youngsters testing.

Anyone know which teams have which youngsters testing for them?

And how do they class these drivers is it F1 running?

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 20:00

No new car shakedowns allowed? so effectively that's one day of the 16 that's lost.

#32 Clatter

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 20:00

With the rules allowing for 4 days of young driver testing I'd imagine a lot of teams will have youngsters testing.

Anyone know which teams have which youngsters testing for them?

And how do they class these drivers is it F1 running?


Someone who has not competed in more than 2 F1 events.

#33 postajegenye

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 20:05

I actually loved winter testing, something to keep us busy between November and March... the (mostly pointless) debates about laptimes, media laps, reading live comments in Dutch without knowing anything about that language, waiting for pics to see if we are able to spot any new parts on the cars, etc :lol:

And now, we won't get that until February... :(

#34 packapoo

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 20:05

Oh, hello thread! I can't believe you're due already!


Ohhhhh no!

Trying to avoid thinking of months of reading about testing and how good this car or that is; only to get woken up sadly when racing proves the press releases otherwise and my favourites get doomed for another crap season.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 21:26

yup, there are four tests, one each in the four weeks in February. I might be able to get exact dates if people are interested.

#36 Clatter

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 21:40

yup, there are four tests, one each in the four weeks in February. I might be able to get exact dates if people are interested.


Dates and location would be useful if you can get them.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 22:58

Oh for **** sake bring back proper testing please! Algersuari and Grosjean or whatever they are called might actually be good. I mean if Grosjean is almost as good as Piquet without testing just think how good he could be with testing...

Still pretty rubbish but that's not the point surely...

#38 slideways

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 00:45

Oh, the huge manatee!


Have some respect.

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 12:23

yup, there are four tests, one each in the four weeks in February. I might be able to get exact dates if people are interested.

:up: ..dates would be very useful

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 17:20

The four tests are as follows:

Valencia: Feb 1 to Feb 3
Jerez: Feb 10 to Feb 13
Jerez: Feb 17 to Feb 20
Barcelona: Feb 25 to Feb 28

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 17:26

The four tests are as follows:

Valencia: Feb 1 to Feb 3
Jerez: Feb 10 to Feb 13
Jerez: Feb 17 to Feb 20
Barcelona: Feb 25 to Feb 28


Thanks :up:

That's February taken care of. Ist race in mid-March.

Just November, December and January to sort out then.

Flav is working on that, at least.
Plus Ari?
Who else is suing who, I've lost track a bit. One of the new teams? Or is it two?

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 17:34

Thanks :up:

That's February taken care of. Ist race in mid-March.

Just November, December and January to sort out then.

Flav is working on that, at least.
Plus Ari?
Who else is suing who, I've lost track a bit. One of the new teams? Or is it two?

Might as well include November too.

I am really starting to get pissed off with all this gimmicky cost saving rule changes.

#43 undersquare

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 17:44

Might as well include November too.

I am really starting to get pissed off with all this gimmicky cost saving rule changes.


They should drop the whole idea of a season now IMO. Global sport, no weather season any more and they design all year round anyway.

Just schedule a couple of breaks a year.

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 20:49

The four tests are as follows:

Valencia: Feb 1 to Feb 3
Jerez: Feb 10 to Feb 13
Jerez: Feb 17 to Feb 20
Barcelona: Feb 25 to Feb 28


Are you sure? What if I book the flight and later find out that it has been canged? :)

#45 saudoso

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 21:44

I was under the impression that there would be some late season testing in november. Isn't so?

#46 undersquare

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 22:17

I was under the impression that there would be some late season testing in november. Isn't so?


The rookie/young driver tests I think. Anyone know which cars they'll be using?

#47 Clatter

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 22:18

I was under the impression that there would be some late season testing in november. Isn't so?


No testing until Dec, and then it's only young drivers. Real testing doesnt start until Feb 2010.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 11:54

The rookie/young driver tests I think. Anyone know which cars they'll be using?




Same cars they used 09, hardly worth the bother.

#49 MinT

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 11:56

What other sports expect its participants not to practice their trade (at all) for over 3 months of each year ?

Football has has a 3 month break - but they play friendlies etc.
Cricketers go and play in foreign countires/tours etc
Athletes practice year round etc etc

#50 Clatter

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 12:52

What other sports expect its participants not to practice their trade (at all) for over 3 months of each year ?

Football has has a 3 month break - but they play friendlies etc.
Cricketers go and play in foreign countires/tours etc
Athletes practice year round etc etc


How much does it cost to:
Kick a ball around?
Hit a ball with a bat?
Run around a track?

Looking around at most motorsports, how many others do as much testing as F1 did?

I don't really agree with the test ban, and find it very strange that the FIA can dictate what a team does with it's own property outside of an event.