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[Vasco]

It's really amazing! I can find (nearly) everything about (nearly) everyone, event, etc. on the net...except Portuguese!
So here's the challenge for all the racing wizzards of this forum:
Can you give me details about the following tracks (trackmap, length, race results)?

> * Vila Real
> * Vila do Conde
> * Circuito Vasco Sameiro (Braga)
> * Ota
> * Santo André (Bike Racing)
> * Faro (Bike Racing)
> * Estoril before the reconstruction for the 1984 Portuguese GP.
> * Montes Claros
> * Granja do Marquês
> * Nova Lisboa (Angola)
> * Lourenço Marques (Mozambique)

The African tracks are included here because the races held there were in the 60's and early 70's when they were Portuguese colonies.

[Roger Clark]

Here's a start

http://www.jumbani.d...o.uk/Angola.JPG

[Darren Galpin]

Lourenco Marques - Located 2.1 miles outside of the city, this 2.089 mile/3.38 km circuit was based on public roads, but was used in a 1.627 mile configuration in 1960, and a 1.964 mile configuration in 1961. The first three hour race held in 1966 was part of the Springbok Series, but in 1967 seven spectators were killed when Botha's Brabham crashed in a minor race meeting. Used up to 1969 - after?

[Racer.Demon]

Darren: Lourenço Marques was a regular fixture on the South African F1 calendar until 1971. The annual F1 race held at LM was called the Governor General Cup or in Portuguese (Vasco, please correct my spelling when needed) Copa Gouvernador General, and invariably took place during the Southern African "winter" period (on the third Sunday of July, to be precise).

Here are the winners:

1960: Syd van der Vyver, Cooper-Alfa
1961: Bruce Johnstone, Cooper-Alfa
1962: Pieter de Klerk, Alfa Special
1963: Pieter de Klerk, Alfa Special
1964: John Love, Cooper-Climax
1965: John Love, Cooper-Climax
1966: Dave Charlton, Brabham-Climax
1967: John Love, Brabham-Repco
1968: Jackie Pretorius, Lola-Ford
1969: John Love, Lotus-Cosworth
1970: Dave Charlton, Lotus-Cosworth
1971: John Love, Surtees-Cosworth

[Ray Bell]

What kind of Lola Ford was that? Was it a race for F2 that year, with an FVA? Or did the F1 cars fail finish?

[Racer.Demon]

Ray: a T140. At the end of the year it was taken over by Scuderia Scribante for Dave Charlton. (Pretorius had been a Scribante regular in 1966-'67.) Mid-1969 Scribante replaced the Ford unit with a Chevy. I'll try to uncover what types of engines they were. I'm guessing F5000-spec, but don't have the info available right now.

And yes, the F1 cars had fallen by the wayside.

[Ray Bell]

Too early for F5000, although FA was going in America...

[fines]

The T140 was indeed an F5000, the first to run in South Africa. This chassis (SL-140-04) is said to have been built by LDS from Lola blue prints.

Vasco, I'm not exactly an expert on Sports Cars, but I found this list of winners of the International Sports Car race in Vila Real in Peter Higham's "Guinness Guide to International Motor Racing". It is accompanied by a trackmap, but I don't have a scanner. Maybe I can add it some time in the future.

1931 - Gaspar Sameiro (P), Ford
1932 - Vasco Sameiro (P), Invicta
1933 - Vasco Sameiro (P), Alfa Romeo
1934 - Antonio Heredia (P), Bugatti
1936 - Vasco Sameiro (P), Alfa Romeo
1937 - Vasco Sameiro (P), Alfa Romeo
1938 - Vasco Sameiro (P), Alfa Romeo
1949 - José Cabral (P), Allard, 58.800 mph
1950 - Piero Carini (I), OSCA
1951 - Giovanni Bracco (I), Ferrari, 66.650 mph
1952 - Casimiro de Oliveira (P), Ferrari
1958 - Stirling Moss (GB), Maserati, 84.730 mph
1967 - Mike de Udy (ZA), Lola_Chevrolet T70 Mk 3
1968 - Mike de Udy (ZA), Lola_Chevrolet T70 Mk 3, 99.842 mph
1969 - Chris Craft (GB)/David Piper (GB), Porsche 908, 98.670 mph
1970 - Teddy Pilette (B)/Gustav Gosselin (B), Lola_Chevrolet T70 Mk 3B, 95.053 mph
1971 - Jorge de Bagration (E), Porsche 908, 102.040 mph
1972 - Claude Swietlick (CH), Lola_Ford T290, 101.233 mph
1973 - Carlos Gaspar (P), Lola_Ford T292, 107.603 mph

There was also an annual motorcycle race in Vila Real which, in the eighties, was a round of the now defunct FIA Tourist Trophy Formula One World Championship. If you're interested, I could do some digging and get the results of these races, too. At hand I have the results of the 1984 and 1986 races:

1984-07-15, 25 laps * 7.02 km = 175.50 km
1st Roger Marshall (GB), Honda, 1:09'25.4", 94.20 mph
2nd Joey Dunlop (GB), Honda
3rd Trevor Nation (GB), Ducati
4th Tony Rutter (GB), Ducati (winner of the F2 event)
5th Jim Wells (GB), Kawasaki (2nd in F2)
6th Andy McGladdery (GB), Kawasaki
7th Asa Moyce (GB), Kawasaki
8th Frank Williams (GB), Ducati (engineered by Patrick Head?;))
9th Ray Swann (GB), Kawasaki
10th Nick Jeffries (GB), Kawasaki
FL Marshall, 2'43.59", 95.95 mph

1986-07-20, 25 laps * 7.02 km = 175.50 km
1st Joey Dunlop (GB), Honda, 1:09'33.25", 94.03 mph
2nd Paul Iddon (GB), Suzuki
3rd Anders Andersson (S), Suzuki
4th Patrick Bettendorf (L), Suzuki
5th Neil Robinson (GB), Suzuki
6th Glen Williams (NZ), Suzuki
7th Christian van Nieuwenhuyse (L), Suzuki
8th Graeme McGregor (AUS), Ducati
9th Franz Kaserer (A), Suzuki
10th Eric Bragard (B), Suzuki
FL Dunlop, 2'42.34", 96.69 mph

[fines]

Estoril was pretty much in its original configuration when F1 came in in 1984. In the seventies there had been a few F2 encounters:

1973-10-21, non-championship, 60 laps
1st Jean-Pierre Jarier, March_BMW 732, 1:37'33.21", 99.76 mph
2nd Jacques Coulon, March_BMW 732
3rd Rolf Stommelen, Brabham_Ford BT30
4th Vittorio Brambilla, March_BMW 732
5th Wilson Fittipaldi, Brabham_BMW BT40
6th Bill Gubelmann, March_BMW 732
PP Jarier, 1'35.65"
FL Jarier, 1'35.87"

1975-03-09, 50 laps
1st Jacques Laffite, Martini-BMW MK16, 1:35'05.83", 85.271 mph
2nd Jo Vonlanthen, March_BMW 742
3rd Lamberto Leoni, March_BMW 752
4th Giorgio Francia, Osella_BMW FA2/75
5th Duilio Truffo, March_BMW 742
6th Giancarlo Martini (uncle of Pierluigi), March_BMW 752
PP Michel Leclère, March_BMW 752, 1'34.61"
FL Francia, 1'44.06"

1976-08-08, 50 laps
1st René Arnoux, Martini_Renault MK19, 1:20'19.77", 100.947 mph
2nd Jean-Pierre Jabouille, Elf_Renault 2J
3rd Alex Ribeiro, March_BMW 762
4th Hans Binder, Chevron_BMW B35
5th Eddie Cheever, March_Hart 762
6th Alberto Colombo, March_BMW 752
PP Arnoux, 1'34.01"
FL Arnoux, 1'34.55"

1977-10-02, 50 laps
1st Didier Pironi, Martini_Renault MK22, 1:19'29.30", 102.015 mph
2nd René Arnoux, Martini_Renault MK22
3rd Eddie Cheever, Ralt_BMW RT1
4th Keke Rosberg, Chevron_Hart B40
5th Derek Daly, Chevron_Hart B40
6th Riccardo Patrese, Chevron_BMW B40
PP Pironi, 1'33.05"
FL Daly, 1'34.16"

Most of these drivers made it to F1. Compare that to contemporary F3000.

[jarama]

Vasco,

I only can add a few stuff, but here it goes:

About Vila Real, the track lenght was 4.3-mile, bordered by houses, lamp-posts, trees and stone walls. The first race meeting dates back to July 1931, while the last international race was held in 1974.

About Estoril:

The old Estoril was 4.350-km long, being a venue for international racing mainly between 1975 and 1977.

1975, 1st. round eligible for the EDC, F2
1st.) Jacques Laffite, Martini Mk16 BMW
2nd.) Jo Vonlanthen, March BMW
3rd.) Lamberto Leoni, March BMW
4th.) Giorgio Francia, Osella BMW
5th.) Duilio Truffo, Osella BMW
6th.) Giancarlo Martini, March BMW

8 August 1976, 10th. round
PP, René Arnoux, Martini Mk19 Renault, 1'34"01
1st.) René Arnoux
2nd.) Jean-Pierre Jabouille, Elf 2 Renault
3rd.) Alex Ribeiro, March BMW
4th.) Hans Binder, Chevron BMW
5th.) Eddie Cheever, March Hart
FL, René Arnoux, 1'34"55

2 October 1977, 12th. round, 50 laps, 217.5 km.
PP, Didier Pironi, Martini Mk22 Renault, 1'33"05
1st.) Didier Pironi, 1h19'29"30 @ 164.175 kmh
2nd.) René Arnoux, Martini Mk22 Renault, 17"35 behind
3rd.) Eddie Cheever, Ralt RT1 BMW, 17"92 behind
4th.) Keke Rosberg, Chevron B40 Hart, 18"22 behind
5th.) Derek Daly, Chevron B40 Hart, 26"19 behind
6th.) Riccardo Patrese, Chevron B40 BMW, 26"88 behind
FL, Derek Daly, 1'34"16

Other races,

10 July 1977, Premio Costa del Sol, WSCC, 5th. round, 89 laps, 387.15 km., 8 starters/7 finishers
PP, Arturo Merzario, Alfa Roemo 33SC12, 1'38"43 @ 159.097 km
1st.) Arturo Merzario, 2h30'56" @ 153.89 kmh
2nd.) Vittorio Brambilla, Alfa Romeo 33SC12, 19/100 behind
3rd.) Dini-Francia, Alfa Romeo 33SC12, 3 laps behind
4th.) Chris Craft, Lola T296 Ford, 5 laps behind, 1st.2L
5th.) Straehl-Bernhard, Sauber C5 BMW, 7 laps behind
6th.) Bracey-Birchenhough, Lola T294 Ford, 17 laps behind
FL, Vittorio Brambilla, 1'37"73 @ 160.237 kmh

16 October 1977, Estoril 4 Hour Race, ETC, 11th. round
PP, Quester-Grano, BMW Alpina 3.0, 1'50"80
1st.) Finotto-Facetti, BMW Luigi, 4h01'18"13 @ 126.35 kmh
2nd.) Quester-Grano, 50"98 behind
3rd.) Xhenceval-Dieudonné, BMW Luigi, 1 lap behind
4th.) Joosen-De Wael, BMW Luigi, 5 laps behind
5th.) Brun-Kelleners, BMW 320, 8 laps behind

[Boniver]

Vasco
see to
http://umis.virtuala...s/portugalC.htm

[jarama]

Vasco,

19º Circuito de Vila Real
August? 1972
35 laps, 242.375 km
1st.) C.Swietlick, Lola T290, 1h29'15"87 @ 162.915 kmh
2nd.) J.Bridges, Chevron B21, 12"31 behind
3rd.) Carlos Gaspar, Lola T280, 37"54 behind
4th.) Mario Cabral, Lola T290, 1'02"09 behind
5th.) John Burton, Chevron B21, 2'18"81 behind
6th.) Paco Josa, Chevron B21, 1 lap behind
FL, Peter Hanson, Chevron B21, 2'26"37 @ 170'322 kmh

20º Circuito de Vila Real
June? 1973
35 laps, 242.375 km
PP, Dave Walker, GRD 73S, 2'20"17
1st.) Carlos Gaspar, Lola T292, 1h23'58"22 @ 173.166 kmh
2nd.) Peter Gethin, Chevron B23, 12"59 behind
3rd.) Jorge de Bagration, Chevron B23, 1'56"88 behind
4th.) J.Bridges, Chevron B23, 2'20"28
5th.) Dave Walker, 1 lap behind
6th.) Mario Cabral, March BMW, 1 lap behind
7th.) José Mª Juncadella, Chevron B21, 1 lap behind
8th.) Jose Mª Uriarte, Chevron B21, 3 laps behind
FL, Carlos Gaspar, 2'19"92 @ 178.173 kmh

[fines]

1971-07-04
Vila Real 500 km
no info

1970-07-05
Vila Real 6h
no info

1969-07-06
Vila Real 6h SC
1st David Piper (GB)/Chris Craft (GB), Porsche 908 Spyder (entry by de Cadenet), 138 laps, 158.760 kph
2nd de Udy/Frank Gardner, Lola_Chevrolet, 136 laps
3rd Bradley/Dean, Porsche 910, 127 laps
4th Manfredini (I)/Nomex (I), Porsche 907, 127 laps
5th Brown/Baker, Chevron_BMW, 125 laps
6th de Cadenet/Walton, Ferrari Dino, 124 laps
FL Gardner, 2'28.90", 167.400 kph (lap record)

1969-06-01
GP Portugal, Montes Claros, SC
1st Manuel Pinto (P), Porsche Carrera 6

1968-07-14
GP Portugal, Monte Claros, SC
1st Carlos Gaspar (P), Ford GT40
no info

1968-07-07
Vila Real SC
1st Mike de Udy, Lola_Chevrolet
2nd Paul Hawkins, Ford GT40

1968-07-07
Vila Real Prototype
1st David Piper, Ferrari P3/4

1968-07-07
Vila Real F3
1st Reine Wisell, Tecno, 25 laps
2nd Manfred Mohr, Tecno, 25 laps, 0.3" back
3rd John Miles, Brabham, 25 laps, >30" back
4th Chris Williams
5th Alan Rollinson, Chevron

1967-07-30
GP Portugal, Montes Claros, F3
1st Carlos Gaspar (P), Brabham_Ford BT21

1967-07-09
Vila Real
no info

1966-07-24
GP Portugal, Cascais, F3
1st Jürg Dübler (CH), Brabham_Ford BT18, 50 laps in 1:05'45.18", 94.60 mph
2nd John Fenning, Brabham_Ford BT18, 50 laps in 1:05'56.42"
3rd Chris Williams, Brabham_Ford BT18, 50 laps in 1:06'19.08"
4th Alan Rollinson, Brabham_Ford BT18, 50 laps in 1:06'34.35"
5th John Peterson, Brabham_Ford, 50 laps
6th Geoff Oliver, Brabham_Ford BT10, 49 laps
7th Rollo Feilding, Brabham_Ford BT18, 49 laps
8th Cliff Haworth, Brabham_Ford BT16, 49 laps
9th Martin Davies, Brabham_Ford BT10, 49 laps

1966-07-10
Vila Real F3
1st John Fenning, Brabham_Ford BT18, 25 laps, 1:09'26.9", 92.60 mph
2nd Jonathan Williams, de Sanctis_Ford
3rd John Peterson, Brabham_Ford
4th Rollo Feilding, Brabham_Ford BT18
5th Fillipe Nogueira, Brabham_Ford BT16
6th Mike Herbertson, Cooper_Ford T83
PP Fenning, 2'45.5"
NB Frank Williams (this time the future F1 team owner) did not start after a practice crash

1966-06-12
Oporto
no info

1965
GP Portugal, Cascais, F3
1st Rod Banting (GB), Cooper_Ford

[jarama]

Vasco,

I'm back with a little more stuff:

Vila Real
F3 meeting
race distance, 173.125 km
7 July 1968
1st.) Reine Wisell, Tecno, 160.049 kmh
2nd.) Manfred Mohr, Tecno
3rd.) John Miles, Lotus

isn't a lot, but...

[Don Capps]

The Peter McIntosh book shows circuits for 1960, 1961, and 1962 at Lourenco Marques. And results for the races in which the South Africans competed for their championship.

As you have noticed, ask a question and eventually you an answer and more....

[Ray Bell]

I was surprised about the F5000 one... when was F5000 first mooted? And when did FA start?

[jarama]

I'm coming back with a pair of race results concerning Lourenço Marques meetings,

24 August 1969,
Touring Car Race
1st.) Swanepoel, Renault 8 Gordini
2nd.) Howcroft, Volvo 122 S
3rd.) Obendeal, Alfa Romeo
4th.) Kirsten, Porsche 911S
5th.) Tucker, Volvo 144 S

15 December 1969
3 Hour Race for Sport Cars
Springbok Series, 3rd. round
1st.) Mike de Udy-Frank Gardner, Lola Chevrolet
2nd.) Alistair Walker-Robin Widdows, Ferrari P4
3rd.) Dick Attwood, Mirage Ford 5.7-litre
4th.) Serrurier- Jack Pretorius, Lola Ford
5th.) Digby Martland, Chevron B16 Cosworth FVC

[KzKiwi]

Originally posted by Don Capps
The Peter McIntosh book shows circuits for 1960, 1961, and 1962 at Lourenco Marques. And results for the races in which the South Africans competed for their championship.

As you have noticed, ask a question and eventually you an answer and more....

Permit me to take the bait and ask a question. What is the name of the Peter McIntosh book?

Regards,

Kirk

[Ray Bell]

Got him! Hook, line and sinker!

[David McKinney]

Can’t help with the two-wheeler events, or with much detail about any of the Portuguese circuits, but here are some winners: -
(asterisk denotes Portuguese GP)
Trás-os-Montes 1925 Ferdinando Palinhas (Mercedes)

Estoril
1925 Carlos Eduardo Bleck (Bugatti)
1935 Francisco Ribeiro Ferreira (Bugatti T51)
1937 Manuel de Oliveira (Ford)

Vila Real
1931 Gaspar Sameiro (Ford)
1932 Vasco Sameiro (Invicta)
1933 Vasco Sameiro (Alfa Romeo Monza)
1934 António Guedes de Herédia (Bugatti 35B)
1936 Vasco Sameiro (Alfa Romeo Monza)
1937 Vasco Sameiro (Alfa Romeo Monza)
1938 Vasco Sameiro (Alfa Romeo Monza)
1949 José António Soares Cabral (Allard K1)
1950 Piero Carini (OSCA)
1951 Giovanni Bracco (Ferrari 212)
1952 Casimiro de Oliveira (Ferrari 225)
1958 Stirling Moss (Maserati 300S)

Campo Grande
1931 Vasco Sameiro (Alfa Romeo 1750)
1932 Gaspar Sameiro (Ford)
1933 Vasco Sameiro (Alfa Romeo Monza)

Covilhá
1931 Gaspar Sameiro (Ford)

Boavista
1931 Ferdinando Palinhas (Singer)
1932 Leopoldo Roque da Fonseca (Bugatti T37)
1933 Vasco Sameiro (Alfa Romeo Monza)

Avo
1931 Roberto Sameiro (Alfa Romeo 1750)

Povóa
1931 Alfredo Rego (Ford)

Sétubal
1931 Gaspar Sameiro (Ford)
1932 Alfredo Marinho Junior (Bugatti 35C)

Parque Eduardo VI
1934 Lúis Canedo (Terraplane)
1935 Francisco Ribeiro Ferreira (Railton)

Santarém
1936 Jorge Monte Real (Bugatti 35C)

Oporto
1950 Felice Bonetto (Alfa Romeo 4500)
1951 Casimiro de Oliveira (Ferrari 340)
1952* Eugenio Castellotti (Ferrari 225)
1953* José Arroyo Nogueira Pinto (Ferrari 250MM)
1954 Luigi Villoresi (Lancia D24)
1955* Jean Behra (Maserati 300S)
1956 Alfonso de Portago (Ferrari)
1958* Stirling Moss (Vanwall)
1960* Jack Brabham (Cooper-Climax T53)

Monsanto
1953 Felice Bonetto (Lancia D23)
1954* Jose Froilan González (Ferrari 750)
1955 Masten Gregory (Ferrari 750)
1957* Juan Manuel Fangio (Maserati 300S)
1959* Stirling Moss (Cooper-Climax T51)

Vilo do Conde
1955 José Filipe Nogueira (Porsche)

[jarama]

Coming back,

Lourenço Marques 3 Hour Race
28 November 1970
Springbok Series

1st.) Brian Redman, Chevron B16 Spyder FVC
2nd.) Driver, Alfa Romeo 33
3rd.) van Beuren/Whitehouse, Porsche 906
4th.) Frank Gardner/Mike de Udy, Ford Mustang
5th.) Tayor/Ortlepp, Chevron B8 BMW

[jarama]

Fulfilling missing data,

Springbok Series, 3rd. round
28 November 1971
Lourenço Marques
125 laps, 488.702 km
1st.) Swart/Scheckter, Chevron B18 1.8, 162.9 kmh
2nd.) Eddie Keizan/Verwey, Lola T212 1.8, 4 laps behind
3rd.) Guy Edwards, Lola T212 1.8, 9 laps behind
4th.) Helmut Marko/John Love, Lola T212 1.8, 10 laps behind
5th.) Jochen Mass, Ford Capri RS 2.9, 14 laps behind

[Marcor]

F3 Gran Premio do Portugal, Cascais, 26 July, 1965
45 laps, 151 km

1- Rodney Banting Cooper T76 (Stockbridge Racing)
2- John Fenning Cooper T76 (Stockbridge Racing)

In F3, 1965 saw 61 major races held of which Cooper only won three, including that one.

Some dates
2-3 June 62 : Races of the AC of Portugal
24-25 July 1965 : GP Portugal Cascais F3, GT, Tourism.
6-7 July 1968 : Races at Vila Real
13-14 July 1968 : Races at Monté-Claros (Lisboa)
30 et 31 August 1969 : Races at Vila Do Conde : C-1300, SP, S, GT, T (N)
1 December 1970 : 3 H Lourenco Marques
19-20 June 1971 : Montes Claros
3-4 July 1971 : 500 km Vila Real
3-5 August 1973 : 6 Hours of Nova Lisboa (Angola)
7 July 1974 : Vila Real
14 July 1974 : Grande Premio do AC Estoril (European GT Championship)
21 July 1974 : Lourenzo Marques
28 July 1974 : Seis Horas de Nova Lisboa (Angola)

Some races could have been cancelled !

Grande Premio do Estoril
8 August 1976, 10th. Round, the race was originally on 28 March and would be the first round of the championship. It was postponed on August 8.
50 laps = 217.5 km
Track = 4.350 km
12.000 spectators
Weather : fine, light wind
Entered : 30
Withdrawn : 11
Starters : 19

List of withdrawal
- « Gianfranco » Chevron B35 BMW
- Pavesi (Ralt)
- Markkus Hotz (Lister Racing Team March)
- Manfred schurti (Lister Racing Team March)
- Lienhard (Lister Racing Team March)
- Alihodzic (March)
- Max Bonnin (March)
- Miko Kozarowitzky (Marlboro Project 4 March 762 Hart)
- Klaus Ludwig (Willy Khausen Racing Team March 762 Hart)
- Ingo Hoffman(Willy Khausen Racing Team March 762 Hart)
- Jean-Pierre Jaussaud (ROC Chevron B35 Simca Roc)

Starting Grid
1- René Arnoux Martini MK19 Renault 1’34"01
2- Alex-Dias Ribeiro March 762 BMW 1'34"33
3- Keijo Rosberg Fred Opert Chevron B35 Hart 1'34"49
4- Hans Binder Chevron B35 BMW 1'34"66
5- Patrick Tambay Martini MK16 Renault 1'35"26
6- Giorgio Francia Team Trivellato Chevron B35 BMW 1'35"50
7- Hans Meier Fred Opert Chevron B35 Hart 1'35"56
8- Harald Ertl Chevron B35 BMW 1'36"02
9- Alberto Colombo March 742-52 BMW 1'35"06
10- Eddie Cheever Project 4March 762 Hart 1'36"17
11- Xavier Lapeyre Chevron B35 BMW 1'36"21
12- Freddy Kottulinsky Ralt RT1 BMW 1'36"27
13- Michel Leclère Elf Switzerland Renault 1'36"28
14- Jean-Pierre Jabouille Elf Switzerland Renault 1'36"35
15- Maurizio Flammini March 762 BMW 1'36"83
16- Bernard Chevanne March 762 BMW Pipo 1'37"18
17- Hans Grob Modus M4 Hart 1'37"23
18- Willy Deutsch March 762 BMW 1'37"27
19- Roberto Marazzi Team Trivellato Chevron B35 BMW 1'37"62

the race
1- Arnoux 1h 20' 19"77 (162.455 kph)
2- Jabouille + 22"45
3- Ribeiro + 26"76
4- Binder + 27"38
5- Cheever + 57"42
6- Colombo + 1'12"45
7- Marazzi + 1'14"58
8- Leclère + 1'24"04
9- Lapeyre + 1 lap
10- Ertl + 1 lap
11- Meier + 1 lap
12- Deutsch + 1 lap
13- Flammini + 1 lap
14- Francia + 2 laps
15- Grob + 2 laps
16- Tambay + 3 laps (retired, gearbox)
17- Kottulinsky + 4 laps
18- Chevanne + 6 laps

retired: Rosberg lap 33 (engine)

FL- René Arnoux, 1'34"55 (165.626 kph)

[sat]

IV Grande Prémio do A.C.P.
5th race of European GT Championship
8.7.1973
2x40x2,916 km=233,28 km
FL Schickentanz 1:05,64 = 159,926 km/h
1.) (8) Porsche Carrera RSR #911.360.0756 - Paul Keller CH - Porsche Kremer Racing (80 laps) 1:28:41,400 = 157,827 km/h - Practice 1./ 1:05,840
2.) (4) Porsche Carrera RSR #911.360.0610 - Clemens Schickentanz D - Porsche Kremer Racing (80) 1:28:43,400 - Practice 2./ 1:06,280
3.) (5) Porsche Carrera RSR #911.360.0659 - Claude Haldi CH - Porsche Club Romand (79) 1:29:00,870 - Practice 4./ 01:06,630
4.) (3) Porsche Carrera RSR #911.360.0643 - Claude Ballot-Léna F - (78) - Practice 3./ 01:06,600
5.) (18) Porsche Carrera RSR #911.360.1045 - Kurt Simonsen S - Team Kubero (78) - Pr. 7. / 01:07,890+
6.) (7) Porsche Carrera RSR #911.360.0837 - Helmut Henzler D - (78) - Pr. 5. / 01:07,800
7.) (19) Porsche Carrera RSR - Martin Birrane GB - Crowne Racing (74) - Pr. 6. / 01:07,880
8.) (17) Porsche Carrera RS - Roland Larsson S - Team Kubero (74) - Pr. 10. / 01:10,100
9.) (9) Porsche Carrera RS - John Rulon-Miller USA - MHSCC (73) - Pr. 9. / 01:08,750
10.) (22) Porsche 911S - Horst Klauke D -Team Sixtant (72) - Pr. 11.
11.) (15) Porsche Carrera RS - Serge Bolomey CH - (70) - Pr. 12.
12.) (10) Datsun 240Z - Robert Grant GB - (69) - Pr. 13
13.) (21) Lotus Europa Twin Cam - "Lumaro" P - (56) - Pr. 14 .
Ret Porsche Carrera RSR #911.360.1088 - Charles Geeraets MAR - Royal Air Maroc (46) - Pr. 8. / 01:08,900


Other good results: http://www.angelfire.com/me/krejcimar/

[fines]

Hans Grob? That should read Ian Grob, shouldn't it?

[sat]

Yes, I can also read Ian Grob, but Modus M7 it is possible?
Lister racing is Lista racing from Swiss, Freddy Lienhard, Sead Alihodzic (Yugoslavia) and Luciano Pavesi.[p][Edited by sat on 12-07-2000]

[jarama]

Vasco,

Vila Real GP for Sportscars, 1958

1st.) Stirling Moss, Maserati 300S, 84.73 mph
2nd.) Jean Behra, Maserati
3rd.) Francisco Godia, Maserati

[sat]

9 th race GT Championship
11.11.1972
III Grande Premio do A.C.P.
65x2,916 km=189,54 km
FL Neuhaus 1:07,940 = 154,512 km/h

1. (61) Porsche 911S - John Fitzpatrick GB Porsche Kremer Racing (65) 1:14:49,910 = 151,972 km/h Pr.1.
2. (63) Porsche 911S - Jürgen Neuhaus D Porsche Zentrum Nordrhein (65) 1:15:15,160 Pr. 3.
3. (65) Porsche 911S - Bengt Ekberg S Team Kubero (65) 1:15:18,000 Pr. 2.
4. (85) Porsche 911T - Horst Klauke D Bar Cabaret Montmartre (62) Pr. 11.
5. (83) Porsche 911S - Kurt Simonsen S Team Kubero (62) Pr. 9.
6. (62) Porsche 911S - Claude Haldi CH Porsche Club Romand (60) Pr. 5.
7. (81) VW-Porsche 914/6 - Jean-Claude Canonica CH Bricolens Interacing (59) Pr. 13.
8. (69) Porsche 911S - António Borges P Porsche Kremer Racing (59) Pr. 10.
Retired:
(71) Porsche 911S - "Gedehem" F G. Haberthur (58) Pr. 8.
(78) Porsche 911S - Jean-Marc Guignard F (58) Pr. 15.
(66) Datsun 260Z - Martin Birrane GB Cona Cofee Racing (57) Pr. 14.
(82) VW-Porsche 914/6 - Miguel Correia P (54) Pr. 17.
(64) Chevrolet Corvette - "Beaumont" F Greder Racing Team (32) Pr. 6.
(76) Porsche 911S - Jan Lundgardh S Castrol (32) Pr. 7.
(67) de Tomaso Pantera - Hans Schultze-Schwering D Herbert Müller Racing (8) Pr. 4.
(73) Datsun 260Z - Rob Jansen NL Pr. 16.

[Marcor]

Do you know that some people made plans to build a Portuguese F1 in 1976, 1977 ? I've got a 2-page article about that scoop in Auto-Hebdo #35, October 28, 1976. I never hear speaking somewhere else ! And it was not an April fool's stick !

The people involved in this project, according to Auto-Hedbo, was Bravo Marinho, José Megre and Joào Pereira.

The Auto-Hebdo journalist, Fabrice Rouveyrol, met Mr Marinho at Monza during the 1976 Italian GP. Marinho said that there was a 2-litre sportscars Portuguese stable called B.I.P. (In French "Banque Intercontinentale portugaise"). The team won at Spa with a Lola in 1974 (I didn't check but it's easy to do it). In 1975 he had to build a F1 but the bank would be nationalised (remember the Portuguese revolution !).

In the article the responsible of the project gave the main design features. There are two drawings of the car. Megre was the engineer and Pereira the technician.

If someone is interested, I could e-mail the two pages in two jpg files (170 and 332 K)

[Marco94]

Marcor,

If you want, I can host the scans on my website? Let me know: marco@marco94.f2s.com.

Marco.

[Felix Muelas]

Originally posted by KzKiwi
Permit me to take the bait and ask a question. What is the name of the Peter McIntosh book?[/B]

Kirk,

A Record of South African Formula 1 Racing 1960-1975
by McIntosh and Paul Sheldon.

Felix

[Jorge Felix]

Marcor

I can confirm that in 1976/1977, I think it was in
1976, I read in a portuguese magazine about the F1
portuguese project. Unfortunately I don't have any
documents about it. Anyway, at least it was interesting
to follow because of the design for the car...

About the portuguese races I think it was a pity
not posting any pictures about Vila Real or Angola.
I can't do it, but I have some beautiful color pictures...

Also, I would like to express how it is so good looking
for the data that some people have about these events...
Very impressive!

Well done!

[KzKiwi]

Felix,

Many thanks for answering my question about the McIntosh book. Recognising the second name, I now realise that it is one of the fabled 'black book' series published by St Leonards Press - most probably very hard to get hold off, and no doubt with a price tag that reflects this.

Regards,

Kirk

[Marco94]

The scans from Auto-Hebdo #35, October 28, 1976 are available on a dedicated web page.

Marco.

[fines]

Quite typical for the many phantom F1 projects of the kit-car era, it seems: Fancy design work and not much engineering background, me thinks...

[Alvega]

Marco94, nice post !

fines, are you kidding ?

Read the text carefully and you will find revolutionairie features such as:

1. Ground effect through carefull underbody design.
2. Semi push-rod suspensions.
3. 8 disc braking system (4 inboard, 4 outboard)
4. 650-670 HP Ford Cosworth (this is 1976 !)

Forget Colin Chapman and Keith Duckworth, Hurra ! for team B.I.P !

[fines]

Alvega, that is exactly what I meant: Lots of claims and fancy stuff, but nobody to make it work! There were dozens of such projects around the magazines of the time, literally, and in all sorts of countries, but only a handful ever appeared on a track and even fewer actually made it to the grid of an F1 race.

Most probably the various aerodynamic solutions in the real racing world fed the phantasy of many a budding amateur designer, and in pretty much the most cases these projects were never much more than aerodynamic studies, completely aloft of the nitty-gritty of actual vehicle design.

If you look carefully at those drawings you may find that most of the design was fairly rudimentary, to say the least!

[Marcor]

I've copy out for you an interesting report of the 1967 Vila Real meeting held on 8 and 9 July.

Amazing, especially the description of the circuit !!!

The Vila Real circuit is a fine road course and has been changed but little since the first race was run there in 1931. Races have been held there for many classes of car and Bugatti, Alfa Romeo, Maserati, Ferrari, Jaguar and Allard feature amongst the successful marques.

Stirling Moss won the race for Maserati in 1958, after which the meeting was not held again for financial reasons until last year (1966) when the main event was for F3 cars, and John Fenning won in his Brabham, putting in a fastest lap of 2m 43.5s compared with Moss's 2m 55s.

The circuit measures some 6.9 kilometres round and includes 26 corners or bends, tow of which have a railway crossing in the middle, and quite a steep hill to cross. Coming out of the town and past the pits the drivers are faced with 3 flat-out right-hand bends, the second one very rough if a close line is not maintained, the third one being blind over the brow of a hill.

A fast S bend at the bottom of the hill is followed by a triple right that marks the beginning of the long climb up the other side of the valley. A left and right are followed by the first of the bends over a level crossing. It is rough and none too wide and lined by trees. A double S still climbing leads to a fast right-left at the top of the hill.

The circuit then plunges quite steeply downhill, a longish straight followed by two very fast left-handers and a not-very-fast S. The road levels off but narrows between kerbs and houses as it enters the town of Mateus (famous for its wine), past Martin Davies' hole in the wall, through a fast chicane between two shops and right on to the fearsome bridge that spans a ravine along, long way below. The sharpest corner on the circuit, a bottom gear right-hander, then leads out of the town and back to the pits.

With the gloom cast over the Continental F3 scene following the horrifying accidents at Monza, Opatija and Caserta, the organising clubs were doing everything to make the race safe, with diligent brushing of the surface each morning, lavish fire-fighting equipment and even a helicopter standing by. But the very nature of the circuit and the proximity of the spectators still made it a pretty awe-inspiring prospect.

The main event was once again for F3 over 25 laps, about 173 km. Supporting races were for GT cars and prototype saloons (Gr 1 and 2) and the inevitable Formula Vees.

GT race
There were no foreign entries in the latter 2 races, but the GT race had attracted Michael (Mike) de Udy with his Lola T70, John Woolfe's 7-litre Shelby-Cobra, Don Marriott's Lotus Elan, Jonatha Porter's Ford Mustang and Hermann Unold also in an Elan. Their opposition came primarily from the 3 locally-owned Lotus 47s of Manuel Nogueira Pinto, the less experienced Carlos Santos, and José Lampreia. The GT race took place over 25 laps after Saturday's practice of the F3s and the Formula V race. It was dominated by Mike de Udy in his Lola T70, also the fastest of the qualifying session. In the first corner he was into a lead he never looked like losing. On the 18th lap de Udy, with such a comfortable lead, was able to make a brief pit stop after touching a back marker. 2 laps later second man Pinto's engine began to misfire and the pursuing Santos closed more rapidly on him. On the 22th lap they came past the stands almost side by side and next time round Santos led while Pinto dashed into the pits, only to be rushed out again to complete the race. Marriott closed up fast on the Lotus 47, which now also had a flat tyre, and he missed third place overall by inches. De Udy had of course broken the circuit record with a time of 2m 38s.

Formula 3
The entry
Chris Williams (UK) BT21
Rollo Fielding Brabham BT21
Dave Walker Merlyn Mk10
Martin Stephani Merlyn Mk10
Kurt Keller Merlyn Mk10
Georges Crenier Merlyn Mk10
Tim Cash Merlyn Mk9/10
Barry Collerson Merlyn Mk10
Steve Matchett Brabham BT18
Chuck McCarty Brabham BT18
Wall Donnely Brabham BT18
Reine Wissel Brabham BT18
Joaquim Filipe Noguiera Brabham BT18
Tony Goodwin Brabham BT18
Lars Lindberg Brabham BT18
Egert Haglund Brabham BT18
Ulf Svensson Brabham BT18
Ronnie Peterson Brabham BT18
Carlos Gaspar Brabham BT21
Prince Adan Kzartoryski Brabham BT18
Geoff Oliver Brabham BT10
Paddy Allfrey Brabham BT18
Paul Deetens Brabham BT16
Jean-Pierre Cornet Brabham
Bruce Eglinton Le Grand Mk5
Mike Herbertson Cooper T76/83
René Scalais Cooper T76 (DNS, on practice, flipped his car at the first level crossing and received fractured ribs and shoulder)

The race
On Sunday the F3 cars were lined up on a 3-2-3 grid. Walker had damaged his car on Saturday's practice so he had an all-night session in front of him to repair the damage. Peterson also wiped off a rear wheel at the sharp corner by the pits but had repaired overnight. There were 26 starters.

Surprising Matchett was on the first line with Williams and Walker but as the flag fell he had trouble with his clutch and was slow off the mark, leaving Williams, Walker, Wisell and Svensson to lead into the first corner. Walker fell back soon afterwards and for the first few laps Williams, Wisell, Svensson, Matchett, Oliver, Gaspar and Noguiera circulated in a bunch.

On the 5th lap the young Belgian Jean-Pierre Cornet overturned the Deetens Brabham at the uphill S bends without injuring himself, and one lap later Steve Matchett hit the kerb damaging his rear wheel. Peterson pulled in at this stage, and Bruce Eglinton made the first of a series of stops with the Le Grand. Stephani, Fielding and Noguiera was out with ignition failure before lap 12.

Dave Walker finally retired on lap 13 with a broken throttle cable, while two laps later Svensson lost his third place with another case of ignition failure, leaving the order Williams, Wisell, Oliver, Gaspar, Lindberg, McCarthy, Goodwin and Haglund.

This order was maintained up to the 23rd lap, except for poor Haglund who crashed through a brick wall going into the village on the 22nd lap and suffered multiple fractures. This was the same place where Martin Davies went through last year, but there had been a gap just wide enough then. Unfortunately a few days before the race the locals had bricked it up again.

At the front Williams had a comfortable 50 sec. Lead, while further back Allfrey and Donnelly enjoyed a good dice as did Crenier and Collerson in their Merlyns, while Herbertson and Cash were still circulating together.

The order looked set for the finish until the chaotic penultimate lap. First Gaspar ran out of fuel and lost his certain 4th position. Then Goodwin broke his steering wheel in the uphill S and cleared a row of straw bales before finishing up on the circuit again, depositing his oil there. Eglinton was first to spin on it, then Geoff Oliver also spun and could not disengage his clutch to restart, thus losing his 3rd place, while McCarthy, who now stood to gain 3rd place, also spun and let Lindbergh through before he could restart.

By now the yellow flags were out and the rest of the field completed their remaining lap without incident...

The results
1- Chris Williams Brabham BT21, 25 laps, 1h 9m 17.4s
2- Reine Wisell Brabham BT18, 1h 10m 7.4s
3- Lars Lindberg Brabham BT21 1h 10m 57.8s
4- Charles McCarthy Brabham BT18, 1h 11m 44.9s
5- Paddy Allfrey Brabham BT18, + 1 lap
6- Wal Donnelly Brabham BT18, + 1 lap
7- Georges Crenier Merlyn Mk10, + 1 lap
8- Barry Collerson Merlyn MK10, + 1 lap
9- Geoff Oliver Brabham BT10, + 2 laps
10- Carlos Gaspar Brabham BT21, + 2 laps
11- Mike Herbertson Cooper T76/83, + 2 laps
12- Mike Cash Merlyn Mk9/10, + 2 laps
13- Tony Goodwin Brabham BT18, + 2 laps
14- Paul Deetens Brabham BT16, + 2 laps
15- Kurt Keller Merlyn Mk10

FL- Chris Williams, 2m 41.03s

[Boniver]

The scans from Auto-Hebdo #35, October 28, 1976 are available on a dedicated web page.

Marco.
__________________

Marco Rooney.
Vehicle Research Student.
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Bravo F1 project,

was this F1 project
Portuguese or Spanish,

There was a Bravo F1 project in 1993
with Jordi Gene (Sp) brother of Marc Gene

[jarama]

Boniver,

the Bravo was a Spanish F1 project with Jordi Gené, Marc's elder brother, as supposed driver.

[Boniver]

was this the same Brava Marinho in 1976 als in 1993
of the same project

[jarama]

Boniver,

I don't know nothing about this Brava Marinho project dating back from 1976, but in this case the name sounds as it was Portuguese.

[Luís Sampaio]

The Bravo (not "Brava") project was a portuguese project for F1 in '76.
Bravo Marinho (a portuguese engineer) tryed to sell the project and his conceptual ideia to Wilson Fittipaldi and Copersucar Team but they don't agreement about that. So, the project was a flop.

[Boniver]

Luis,

Thanks

[Ray Bell]

The F3 entry list includes four Australians.. Kurt Keller (was he there that late... I guess it's 66), David Walker, Barry Collerson (a step down from the Lago Talbot) and Wal Donnelly.
Never seen the latter two in an entry list before...

[jarama]

Lourenço Marques 3 Hour Race
Springbok Series, 3rd.round
26 November 1972

PP: Jody Scheckter, March 73S BMW, 1'21"6

1st., Mass-Birrell, Chevron B23 Hart BDA, 126 laps @ 164.204 kmh
2nd., Scheckter-Charlton, March 73S BMW, 2 laps behind
3rd., Peter Gethin, Chevron B23, 5 laps behind
4th., Driver-Edwards, Lola T290, 11 laps behind
5th., Robinson-Claessens, Chevron B21, 15 laps behind
6th., Scheepeers-Wicks, Chevron B8 BMW, 17 laps behind
7th., Van Rooyen, Chevrolet Firenza, 1st.Gr.2, 19 laps behind
8th., Giovannoni, Mazda S102A, 21 laps behind
9th., Swanepoel, Toyota Celica, 23 laps behind
10th., Spaemer-Peter, BMW 2002 ti, 27 laps behind

[dmj]

Sorry about reviving this old thread. I used to exchange messages with certain Mr. Antonio Martins, who used to race in Angola and Mozambique, but sadly his email address I have isn't valid anymore. I'm trying to contact him, as he surely can give us more information about these african events. He lived in Philippines a few years ago, and what I know about his racing career you can see from this message (written by himself):

When young, in the end of the sixties early seventies, I drove in
> Angola, Mozambique and South Africa some cars in the Championships of the
> said countries. I would like to know, if you (or someone else) can help me
> to find 1/43 or 1/24 miniatures of the following:
> - Simca 1000 Rallye
> - Simca 1000 Rallye SRT (Simca Racing Team Kit Car)
> - Simca Rallye 2
> - Simca 1200 S Coupe R
> - Opel (Ascona) 1904 SR
> - Fiat 124S
> - Fiat 125 S Twim Cam
> - Lola/Ford T212
> - Lola/BMW Schnitzer T292

Interesting choice of cars. And you can see that I mostly talked with him about modelcars, but now I regret I didn't ask him more about actual races he participated in. Does anyone knows anything about Mr. Martins and his racing career, or how I could contact him?

[Elford68]

Anyone have the Estoril 30's track?

[Mark A]

Originally posted by Elford68
Anyone have the Estoril 30's track?

Using info from Guido's site.

Red is the 1937 layout and the yellow is what I believe (from the description on the site) is where the 1935 layout differs.

[Elford68]

Thanks