Hi!
Well, it actually happened. An interesting
piece of racing history, in my opinion.
1. Seattle road course, 7.8.71
Posey and Hobbs in their F5000s shared the
front row. Johncock`s Vollstedt-Ford was
within one second (fourth,btw,Pete Lovely in
Lotus 49-DFV). Johncock led the race easily
until hitting fuel injection trouble.
2. Riverside road course, 27.10.74
Bobby Unser´s Indy Eagle ran in first place,
Andretti`s T332 close behind. A broken valve
put Unser out. Andretti went on to win
3. Phoenix oval course, 2.11.74
The F5000s were not on the pace. Compare
Lunger`s 29s lap with Rutherford`s 25.54s
pole.
Maybe the turbo-charged Indycars had a definite power advantage.
But the stock-block machines got a bit of a
revenge in the CART era. Mike Mosley (Eagle-
chevrolet) won at the Milwaukee oval mile in
1981 and Bobby Rahal (March 83C-350ci Chevrolet) dominated at Mid-Ohio in 1983.
F5000 vs Indycars
Started by
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, Apr 27 2000 23:54
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Ray Bell
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Posted 28 April 2000 - 01:32
350ci Chev? That's about 45ci too big for F5000... but that's all interesting stuff, all the same.
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Dave Ware
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Posted 28 April 2000 - 03:30
Interesting indeed. I don't remember F5000s ever racing against Champ cars/Indy cars. If you have more info, go ahead and post it.
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island
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Posted 28 April 2000 - 20:43
Rahal`s March (Formula 6000?) led from pole
at Mid-Ohio but fuel-feed problems dropped
him to third at the end. Later in 1983,
the stock-block racer got a ninth at Las
Vegas and a seventh at Laguna Seca.
I always felt that CART (and not Can-Am II)
was F5000`s true successor. I mean big and
powerful single-seaters at Watkins Glen
(1979-1981) and then Mid-Ohio and Elkhart
Lake. That is what it is all about!
at Mid-Ohio but fuel-feed problems dropped
him to third at the end. Later in 1983,
the stock-block racer got a ninth at Las
Vegas and a seventh at Laguna Seca.
I always felt that CART (and not Can-Am II)
was F5000`s true successor. I mean big and
powerful single-seaters at Watkins Glen
(1979-1981) and then Mid-Ohio and Elkhart
Lake. That is what it is all about!
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Ray Bell
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Posted 29 April 2000 - 04:47
Initially, yes, but in the end there is a sub-element of mental distortion in F5000.. unweildy, less refined, less costly and a very different noise.
Of all times to forget my signature!
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island
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Posted 29 April 2000 - 22:58
Ray,
forgot to tell you that the nickname of
Rahal`s 350ci March-Chevrolet was "Thor".
Must have been quite powerful...
forgot to tell you that the nickname of
Rahal`s 350ci March-Chevrolet was "Thor".
Must have been quite powerful...
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Ray Bell
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Posted 30 April 2000 - 04:21
350ci? That's only 5761cc... Now here we have the Chevron run by VDS for Gethin in the International races of whatever year it was that WB drove the T430. The Tight family fiddle with it and it has run in all sorts of stuff like hillclimbs and sprints with a full 6000cc. And the Tighe family don't shortcut their engines... it has some grunt. They're in the camgrinding business, so you can bet it's a bit of a showcase.
Actually, I think Ivan won the Australian Hillclimb title with it.. he's won that a few times, the first in the early sixties in a self-built Vincent powered thing, and he's planning to win it again. The old guy is the only Australian title winner to have won events in three decades and is shooting to get a title in a fifth decade... nice aim!
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Actually, I think Ivan won the Australian Hillclimb title with it.. he's won that a few times, the first in the early sixties in a self-built Vincent powered thing, and he's planning to win it again. The old guy is the only Australian title winner to have won events in three decades and is shooting to get a title in a fifth decade... nice aim!
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Posted 01 May 2000 - 07:32
F5000s were quite popular in the 70s Hillclimb scene, I think. For example,
Englishman Roy Lane purchased a brand new
McRae GM1 at the end of 1973 and went on to
win the 1975&1976 British Hillclimb Championship (powered by 5.0 Chevrolet).
His rivals raced cars like a 5.7 F2Chevron
B32-Chevrolet or 5.8 Mclaren M10B-Chevrolet.
There were even two 5.0 Brabham BT35-Repcos!
Englishman Roy Lane purchased a brand new
McRae GM1 at the end of 1973 and went on to
win the 1975&1976 British Hillclimb Championship (powered by 5.0 Chevrolet).
His rivals raced cars like a 5.7 F2Chevron
B32-Chevrolet or 5.8 Mclaren M10B-Chevrolet.
There were even two 5.0 Brabham BT35-Repcos!
