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[D.M.N.]

Jamesallenonf1: #f1 OFFICIAL - Schumacher gets no points for Monaco GP. Alonso is only 3 points behind Webber and Vettel now in championship - 2 minutes ago via web

Almost certainly a trip to the FIA Court of Appeal then...

Edited by D.M.N., 16 May 2010 - 16:42.

[One]

Finally a correct decision. ... ?

[Dragonfly]

From this moment on drivers and teams are going to ask whether this green flag/light is actually green.

[The Kanisteri]

Unfair decision.

[Massacrator]

Finally a correct decision. ... ?

[zeph]

wow, I did not expect that.

[Massa_f1]

A farce and a dam disgrace. Dont wave stupid greens to race if you cant race even the commentators said race on. I am done with f1 its pissed around to much with silly things over the years this is final straw.

[Betty Swollox]

So you can ignore flags now then?

Bad decision by the stewards.

[markshen]

Hill, Hill, Hill

[zarooch]

WTF?? WTF really. Not a fan of schumi or alonso, but wtf about green flag?? rules need to be clearer.

[Umpire]

Don't think there will be an appeal, based on the 'drive-throughs/post race time penalties can not be appealed" precedent.

[Coral]

Hill, Hill, Hill

So Damon finally gets his revenge for 1994...

[D.M.N.]

Added poll.

[King Six]

Hill, Hill, Hill

Perhaps

Surprised by this, gotta say disappointed too. This aint over yet, I'm sure. Especially now given the penalty and its harshness.

I dub thee... passgate.

[harrows]

So much for reprimands, leniency and all that eh? Pathetic decision.

[Ben]

What penalty for whoever turned the green lights on????

I can accept under the letter of the law Schumy was incorrect to pass Alonso - but he saw a green flag and from that point of view it's harsh.

Ben

[selespeed]

disgrace...it should be 25 sec...

[RedBaron]

We need absolute clarification from the FIA then what that Green Flag was doing there. Because it's a hideous contradiction of the rules, one that involves safety to the maximum level. Someone is to blame for the green light/flag shown. Green means clear to race.

They have completely devalued the flag/light system as well as racing in general.

[zarooch]

can this penalty be appealed against?

[FarrokhBulsara]

I hate Schumacher. But this is a bull**** decision. Ross Brawn was absolutely correct in his explanation to Ted. The move was completely legal.

Damon Damon wtf have you done??!!

[KWSN - DSM]

I am a Schumacher fan, and disappointed that the Stewards decided as they did, however since they know the facts, rules and regulations better than me, I will have to accept that what I learned taking my karting license does not hold in F1 racing.

A green flag does not always means green.

I find it an odd decison. but as I wrote will accept it.

I do not think this is appealable.

[Flamini]

Finally a correct decision. ... ?

[Seanspeed]

I'm a Ferrari fan, but I think thats too harsh.

I think Schumacher was right to do what he did on a level, even if I can see the arguments against it.

In such a borderline situation, I think the worst they should have done was to relegate him back to 7th place and then clarify the rule so there's no confusion in the future.

[George Costanza]

So Damon finally gets his revenge for 1994...

Well, if Schu was in a race winning car, then yes. But Schu isn't for the title this time...

[D A]

So a green flag is not a green flag anymore? So whenever the next SC is deployed they might as well end the race because you can no longer overtake under green flag conditions.

[Tarzaan]

Shame on you Damon Hill...

[RedBaron]

A green flag does not always means green.

(Not attacking you personally) That statement is absolutely moronic if true.

[mursuka80]

can this penalty be appealed against?

I hope so,because this is BS. So green flag doesnt mean race no more?

[Jamoire]

Rediculous decision

[Augurk]

This is nothing short of an absolute disgrace.

[Juan Kerr]

The trouble with this is no-one is able to think in an unbiased way so its pointless running a pole. So if Mark Webber had turned his pitlane speed limiter on exiting Anthony Noghes the whole field would've been given a 20 second penalty for passing him ? Of course they wouldn't have, this is purely people thinking in a biased way against Michael Schumacher based on their already set perception of him.

[y2cwr2005]

So after this I guess drivers should feel free to ignore all the flags then? This makes absolutely no sense, FIA should at least release an explanation of how they interpreted this situation.

[kismet]

I'm opposed to just-kidding green flags.

[Hypnotise]

Idiotic fukking stupid penalty,im not even a MS fan but this is true bullshit

Edited by Hypnotise, 16 May 2010 - 16:48.

[BiH]

whether we agree disagree on the decision the correct penalty should have been schumacher to 7th place.

[KWSN - DSM]

(Not attacking you personally) That statement is absolutely moronic if true.

You have seen the pictures, you have seen the print out from race control stating the safety car would turn to the pits.

By the statement / verdict the stewards are saying that the green flags we saw, were not green, and should have been seen as and considered yellow.

[Risil]

The result was overturned and Johnny Rutherford won on appeal.

It's clear that no one intended, or wanted, a one-corner race to the finish line at Monaco. Bit harsh on Schumacher as the rules themselves were far from clear, but in the end it was only between 6th and 7th. The real problem, though, was why they changed the rule to have to safety car come off the track on the last lap. The confusion it gave Legard and Brundle at Australia 2009 was a bit of a warning signal.

Edited by Risil, 16 May 2010 - 16:51.

[Fastcake]

Utterly ridiculous decision, green flag means racing is allowed, Court of Appeal next step.

And I thought bad stewarding was over

[Fastcake]

Utterly ridiculous decision, green flag means racing is allowed, Court of Appeal next step.

And I thought bad stewarding was over

[RedBaron]

whether we agree disagree on the decision the correct penalty should have been schumacher to 7th place.

Absolutely.

[mursuka80]

The trouble with this is no-one is able to think in an unbiased way so its pointless running a pole. So if Mark Webber had turned his pitlane speed limiter on exiting Anthony Noghes the whole field would've been given a 20 second penalty for passing him ? Of course they wouldn't have, this is purely people thinking in a biased way against Michael Schumacher based on their already set perception of him.

What i have seen and read at other places,theres a majority support for MS this time.Even finnish forum is defending him and most of us hate his guts.

Edited by mursuka80, 16 May 2010 - 16:49.

[Diablobb81]

Anyone who is capable of reading and interpreting the rules realises that the decision is wrong.The race did not end under safety car.

[Sausage]

Very agreed. He did a plain illegal thing and a penalty is a must. Owned lol

[hotstickyslick]

And here I thought the stewarding was beginning to improve.

[Lazarus II]

I'm anything but a Schumacher fan, but that ruling is pathetic

[Fabien Pousset]

Schumi's pass was kinda awesome, and I'm far from being a fan of him. But kinda blatantly illegal too.
I guess I would have been happy if he had just been demoted to 7th.

Edited by Fabien Pousset, 16 May 2010 - 16:51.

[Seanspeed]

The trouble with this is no-one is able to think in an unbiased way so its pointless running a pole.

I disagree.

Not all of us are incapable of stopping our emotions cloud our judgement.

[Kerch]

Wrong decision in my opinion. The race didn't actually finish under a safety car, it just happened to come in on the last lap. They were passed the line where you'd usually be allowed to overtake and the flags were green.

[PEW]

Schumi's pass was kinda awesome, and I'm far from being a fan of him. But kinda blatantly illegal too.
I guess I would have been happy if he has just been demoted to 7th.

Ditto

[mursuka80]

whether we agree disagree on the decision the correct penalty should have been schumacher to 7th place.

QFT. 20 seconds is just too much,when majority thinks he did nothing wrong.