Hamilton: Valencia Safety Car & Penalty
#1
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:16
Hamilton should have been blackflagged.
F1 is becoming a farce.
#3
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:19
#4
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:21
#5
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:23
EVERYBODY'S A CHEATER LOL!
People make mistakes. Doesnt mean its cheating.
#6
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:25
#7
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:25
schumacher would have been black flagged but its f1's golden boy so its just s slap on the wrist
#8
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:28
schumacher would have been black flagged but its f1's golden boy so its just s slap on the wrist
no, he wouldn't, did you not watch F1 back then?
Schmacher walked on water in his first career
#9
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:30
Surely tou're too drunk to be able to use a computer?Today's race showed that cheating and breaking the rules pays, even if get caught.
Hamilton should have been blackflagged.
F1 is becoming a farce.
#10
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:34
#11
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:51
#12
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:51
He got fair penalty, he did have to work to open up the gap. I know most of haters are Alonso fans, but if Alonso raced better then he might have finished this race higher and not being overtaken by inferior car.
Edited by velgajski1, 27 June 2010 - 13:53.
#13
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:52
#14
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:53
#15
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:54
So, under what regulations does he get blackflagged?Hamilton should have been blackflagged.
#16
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:55
#17
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:55
#18
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:55
#19
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:56
This is totally a farce race. Crime does pay.
Hamilton should be blackflagged.
This is not F1.
sore loser. He got a punoshment. Get over yourselves.
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#20
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:56
A DT would be more than sufficient. GIVEN that it is imposed within a suitable time period, in order for it to have the desired effect.
20 LAPS to realise overtaking the SC is wrong? Was Johnyboy Herbert on the panel again?????
Edited by harrows, 27 June 2010 - 13:57.
#21
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:56
Today's race showed that cheating and breaking the rules pays, even if get caught.
Hamilton should have been blackflagged.
F1 is becoming a farce.
It's even sweeter when he upsets the fans of other drivers.
#22
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:56
Singapore 2008 springs to mind.
Both are cheaters!! The only clean driver was Alex Yoong, coz he was not on any PED.
#23
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:57
#24
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:58
#25
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:59
And in 2hrs time, English fans will cry over the exit of England from FIFA 2010.
#26
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:59
#27
Posted 27 June 2010 - 13:59
#28
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:00
#29
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:00
I remember you - You said Alonso shouldn't have a drive-through penalty when he jumped the start...............It's even sweeter when he upsets the fans of other drivers.
Edited by Bloggsworth, 27 June 2010 - 14:00.
#30
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:01
'Scuse me, slap on the wrist Did you miss Lewis' drive-through penalty?schumacher would have been black flagged but its f1's golden boy so its just s slap on the wrist
#31
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:01
Rubbish. Just another Fernando whinge. Lewis was punished and that's that. Alonso then got himself passed by Kobayashi - so a bad day at the office for him and the team.
What's the point 'punishing' him if he ended up in the same position? Were you supportive of MS' 'disqualification' in 97 too?
Edited by harrows, 27 June 2010 - 14:01.
#32
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:01
#33
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:03
Posting in epic thread
Me too! LH was maintaining the minimum lap speed and just so happen to end up along the side of the safety car. Just because he passed it since he was along side of it does make him a cheater. Bad judgment maybe.
Oh yeah, LH was penalized he lost a chance to fight for the win.
Edited by FSLIV, 27 June 2010 - 14:05.
#34
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:03
#35
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:05
What did Alonso 'whinge' about? All I heard was that he reported that Lewis broke the rules, which Lewis apparently did and was even subsequently penalised for. It was Alonso's race engineer who complained about it being unfair, that Lewis managed to resume his second position.Rubbish. Just another Fernando whinge. Lewis was punished and that's that. Alonso then got himself passed by Kobayashi - so a bad day at the office for him and the team.
#36
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:05
'Scuse me, slap on the wrist Did you miss Lewis' drive-through penalty?
Yes, he got a drive-through penalty, but it took far too long for that penalty to be handed out. They waited long enough with the penalty for it to have pretty much no effect anymore, since he ended up in the same position again. Had they handed out the penalty within a few laps, it would have had much more of an effect, since Hamilton would have ended up behind other cars. It ended up indeed as nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
Edited by 30ft penguin, 27 June 2010 - 14:06.
#37
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:07
#38
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:07
F1 is becoming a farce.
I'm afraid it already is.
#39
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:07
Anyway, Maclaren fans shouldn't be so blind to say that everyone who thinks it's not fair is a hater.
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#40
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:08
What's the point 'punishing' him if he ended up in the same position? Were you supportive of MS' 'disqualification' in 97 too?
It doesn't matter how many positions he lost, the punishment that fit the crime was deemed to be a drive through and thats what he received.
For the record, I thought MS should have lost all points and wins for that year, what he got was a joke.
#41
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:10
It showed nothing of the sort.Today's race showed that cheating and breaking the rules pays, even if get caught.
Hamilton should have been blackflagged.
F1 is becoming a farce.
What it did show is that Fred is the biggest whiner since Montoya and his lack of focus cost him the position at the end to Kobayashi.
#42
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:11
#43
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:12
#44
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:13
First off, it takes time for the stewards to figure things out and execute the penalty. As a matter of reflection, it took the stewards 66 minutes, or 57 laps into the race to determine that Montoya was late into his car in the 2004 USGP. That's an HOUR Montoya drove for no reason at all; he wasn't even a competitor.Penalty- Yes! But Why 15 rounds After the braking of a rule, After ham had enough space between him and koba? And Why just a drive through?
Second, a drive-through penalty is pretty much standard these days. Webber got a drive-through penalty in the German GP last year and still WON the race, pretty much mirroring Lewis' penalty today. Except that Webber won the race.
#45
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:13
because it wasn't a clear cut incident.Penalty- Yes! But Why 15 rounds After the braking of a rule, After ham had enough space between him and koba? And Why just a drive through?
#46
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:13
Alonso baby, stay cool.his lack of focus cost him the position at the end to Kobayashi.
#47
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:13
on topic, race control was at its moronic best today.hamilton gains by breaking a rule,gets the 2nd position on track when he shouldve been in 8th had he abided by the rules.he gets a penalty and ends up where?..still in 2nd!..justice served..my as*
#48
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:13
It doesn't matter how many positions he lost, the punishment that fit the crime was deemed to be a drive through and thats what he received.
For the record, I thought MS should have lost all points and wins for that year, what he got was a joke.
Let's say a 30yo man commits murder tomorrow, but the police deliberately wait for him to age 50 years before convicting . He'll still end up in jail, but serve virtually nothing.
I said the penalty is fine, the execution and timing were more than suspicious. Mercedes should take on Charlie as head of strategy
#49
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:14
#50
Posted 27 June 2010 - 14:15
because it wasn't a clear cut incident.
there is a line...the sc crosses it first than lewis crosses it...and than overtakes the sc...how cleraer do you need it?