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#1 naiboz

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 13:33

I really really wish someone would tell Santander to piss off with their crappy trophy's

I'd be absolutely gutted after winning a race like that and someone hands me a silver Santander logo and a lump of wood

Bring back real trophys!!!!

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#2 primer

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 13:39

I really really wish someone would tell Santander to piss off with their crappy trophy's


They must have ordered them from China by containerload. :drunk:

#3 Sausage

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 14:08

Well +1, it's quite terrible. If they have to give them anyway for bernies moniez just give them at 1 race per season...

#4 Mila

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 14:43

the trophy reflects the make-up of Santander, itself. that lump of wood is actually compressed paper, comprised of non-performing loans. the silver body is hollow, with toxic mortgage-based securities hidden inside. all off-balance sheet, of course. :)

but, yes, what a piece of prosaic corporate junk.


#5 nordschleife

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 15:55

A great win preserved in the amber of our memories with Alonso holding aloft the crassest turd statue ever to commemorate the choice of filthy lucre over dignity. Someone just **** on my sport. :mad:

#6 jjcale

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 16:02

The trophies are the least of it.... FI overall is too dependent on Santander.

Their money is obviously welcome, particularly in these times... but there are risks associated with one sponsor being so pre-eminent.

#7 Dunder

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 16:34

+1
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#8 Spa95

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 16:44

I really really wish someone would tell Santander to piss off with their crappy trophy's

I'd be absolutely gutted after winning a race like that and someone hands me a silver Santander logo and a lump of wood

Bring back real trophys!!!!


*Adds 5 stars to this topic and poster*

Edited by Spa95, 12 September 2010 - 16:44.


#9 ArnageWRC

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 16:50

What do you expect - crap trophies for a crap bank/ company......

#10 lustigson

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 17:20

I understood that it is actually in the rules that trophies presented to drivers and team representative, should actually resemble a trophy or cup, or isn't it? So why are these hideous marketing ploys still allowed?

#11 KateLM

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 17:27

I understood that it is actually in the rules that trophies presented to drivers and team representative, should actually resemble a trophy or cup, or isn't it? So why are these hideous marketing ploys still allowed?

They do seem to have a fairly loose interpretation on what constitutes a trophy these days. A plinth with any old rubbish stuck on it seems to do the trick.

Those stupid blue recycled things from Brazil last year, for instance.

#12 808Fail

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 17:31

They do seem to have a fairly loose interpretation on what constitutes a trophy these days. A plinth with any old rubbish stuck on it seems to do the trick.

Those stupid blue recycled things from Brazil last year, for instance.


oh yeah, i forgot about them, how bad were they! :lol:


#13 lokiman

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 17:35

What's particularly odd about those Santander monstrosities is that they almost certainly don't comply with the Sporting Regulations, which read:

"The trophies, which must be in the form of traditional cups, will be provided by the ASN and must show:
a) the FIA Formula 1 World Championship official logo
b) the official name of the event
c) the driver’s position."


#14 Atreiu

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 17:35

I agree, they are ugly and uninspired.
Just horrible.


#15 techspeed

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 17:55

They are pretty plain, but not too bad if you look at them for the shape they are rather than connecting them with the company logo.

Still better looking than the blue plastic steering wheels, or the old Tio Pepe trophies
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#16 iotar

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 17:57

I blame Alonso. I bet he is behind it.

#17 engel

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 18:08

they are so gorgeous, they look like one of those paperweights I got from Santander Private Banking.

PS funny aside but ... the Santander trophies are actually illegal as per the FIA's rules regarding trophies (yeah Mosley made trophy rules too)

4. TROPHIES
Only 4 trophies will be presented during the podium ceremony:
a) winning driver
b) a representative of the winning constructor
c) second driver
d) third driver.
The trophies, which must be in the form of traditional cups, will be provided by the ASN and must show:
a) the FIA Formula 1 World Championship official logo
b) the official name of the event
c) the driver's position.
The height of the trophies shall be:
a) winner's and constructor's trophies - no less than 50cm and no more than 65cm high
b) second and third drivers' trophies - no less than 35cm and no more than 45cm high
The maximum weight per trophy must not exceed 5 kilos. Trophies must be of a design that is capable of being handled and transported without damage.



#18 BullHead

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 18:12

Yeah, of all the odd trophies, plates, 'sculptures' etc we've seen given , these things have got to be the worst ever...

#19 PayasYouRace

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 19:32

What's particularly odd about those Santander monstrosities is that they almost certainly don't comply with the Sporting Regulations, which read:

"The trophies, which must be in the form of traditional cups, will be provided by the ASN and must show:
a) the FIA Formula 1 World Championship official logo
b) the official name of the event
c) the driver’s position."


I guess that rules out the Australian GP's Jack Brabham steering wheels too.

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#20 BullHead

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 19:36

The rule for trophies should be that they cannot merely be representations of company logos. Actually I think there should be no visible sponsorship aspect of the trophies.

The Brabham wheels are good.

#21 Fastcake

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 19:40

they are so gorgeous, they look like one of those paperweights I got from Santander Private Banking.

PS funny aside but ... the Santander trophies are actually illegal as per the FIA's rules regarding trophies (yeah Mosley made trophy rules too)

Half the trophies fall foul of those rules, I don't think the FIA even bother to enforce it. Not that we need rules for trophies in the first place.

And yeah those Santander ones are baaad. :(

#22 Clatter

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 19:42

I really really wish someone would tell Santander to piss off with their crappy trophy's

I'd be absolutely gutted after winning a race like that and someone hands me a silver Santander logo and a lump of wood

Bring back real trophys!!!!


Well I wouldn't worry to much about it as I seriously doubt there is any chance of it happening.

#23 King Six

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 19:44

A great win preserved in the amber of our memories with Alonso holding aloft the crassest turd statue ever to commemorate the choice of filthy lucre over dignity. Someone just **** on my sport. :mad:

You people are shallow as hell

#24 PayasYouRace

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 19:47

Half the trophies fall foul of those rules, I don't think the FIA even bother to enforce it. Not that we need rules for trophies in the first place.

And yeah those Santander ones are baaad. :(


Well maybe just for safety reasons. I really wouldn't like to fall on one of those Spanish Grand Prix spike trophies.

#25 Fastcake

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 19:54

Well maybe just for safety reasons. I really wouldn't like to fall on one of those Spanish Grand Prix spike trophies.


Well if we ever see a fight on the podium maybe I'll agree :lol:

#26 PayasYouRace

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 20:12

Well if we ever see a fight on the podium maybe I'll agree :lol:


I was thinking of Rubens' "slipping" thing that he does.

#27 Hole

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 20:15

What do you expect - crap trophies for a crap bank/ company......



You should do a little research of Santander's movements, specially during the crisis and nowadays before claming such idiocy.



Regarding the trophies, nothing I could care less. I never take notice of driver's trophies at all.

#28 Disgrace

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 20:19

Petition required! I don't mind them taking second/third but the winning trophy should be a spectacular Silverstone-spec proper piece of silverware.

#29 ensign14

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 21:23

If the Santander logo looked a little less like a steaming cowpat it wouldn't be so bad.

#30 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:26

I really really wish someone would tell Santander to piss off with their crappy trophy's

I'd be absolutely gutted after winning a race like that and someone hands me a silver Santander logo and a lump of wood

Bring back real trophys!!!!

I seem to recall there being a rule somewhere that a trophy could not represent the corporate logo of any company involved with the race.

#31 Henrytheeigth

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:28

If the Santander logo looked a little less like a steaming cowpat it wouldn't be so bad.


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Word! :lol:

#32 Murphster

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:35

You should do a little research of Santander's movements, specially during the crisis and nowadays before claming such idiocy.


Lol, I heard Alonso buys his underwear from Marks and Spencers, I suppose we are not allowed to say anything bad against them too?

Anyway, yes the trophies are awful, but really, does anyone care that much? I doubt the drivers even bother to keep them anymore do they?

#33 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:37

:up:

If it can't be drank from or off then it shouldn't be allowed.

#34 Henrytheeigth

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 06:41

Silverstone and Monaco are still the best last true ones. And I love how the Silverstone winner trophie is the best and different to the runner ups, as it should be.

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:01

the Eni trophy from the hungarian GP looked pretty interesting. So did the funny blue one from brazil last year.


#36 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:15

Silverstone and Monaco are still the best last true ones. And I love how the Silverstone winner trophie is the best and different to the runner ups, as it should be.


I think Silverstone has a historic winner's trophy, and then 2nd and 3rd are Santander trophies.

#37 chdphd

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:23

The first Bahrain trophy looked like a wastepaper basket: http://www.autosport...to.php/id/16814

My problem with the Santander trophies is that they are generic.

#38 W154

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 10:55

Who cares about the trophys. Grand Prix racing went downhill when they stopped presenting the winners laurel wreath. If you don't know what I am talking about, check out some winners photos from the 30's, 50's and 60's. German GP winners had to be almost superhuman. After 4 hour or more racing on the REAL Nurburgring they then had to stand on the podium with the worlds biggest laurel wreath around their necks. Legs must have been ready to give out under the strain!.

#39 Henrytheeigth

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 10:58

^Just gotta watch the Grand Prix movie to see them :) yes those were the days! Heck those days the drivers should of been pain millions or more, and nowadays 500 bucks a week

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#40 primer

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 11:41

So did the funny blue one from brazil last year.


That wasn't funny. Wrap up some dried dog **** in a blue plastic and then have the impudence to call it a trophy. :down:

#41 Bleu

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 11:59

The rule for trophies should be that they cannot merely be representations of company logos. Actually I think there should be no visible sponsorship aspect of the trophies.


That would surely lead Spanish GP trophies out:

http://www.gpupdate..../152892/#152892

http://www.planetwar...elona-e1012.jpg

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 13:16

I always used to like the Hungarian one, the plate with a painting on. Something a bit different and presumably a reminder of where you won it. Shame to see it was just an Eni/Agip logo this year, but still, at least it was stylised a bit and not just a zero effort straight copy. Actually looking in the Autosport gallery I notice they had a (modern) steering wheel for a few years too. Which makes sense at a motor race.

http://www.autosport....php/id/1314081
http://www.autosport....php/id/1314080
http://www.autosport...up.php/id/35671

Edited by andy29, 13 September 2010 - 13:31.


#43 RaymondMays

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 13:31

My problem with the Santander trophies is that they are generic.


Totally agree. That is exactly the problem.

#44 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 14:44

Actually looking in the Autosport gallery I notice they had a (modern) steering wheel for a few years too. Which makes sense at a motor race.


That was a Marlboro trophy.


#45 Hacklerf

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 14:54

Those trophies really are crap

#46 showtime

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 14:59

Trophies should have an historic value, one different for every GP and without sponsors references. How nice is to visit a team trophy room and be able to spot them without having to read the name on it.

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 15:30

Lol, I heard Alonso buys his underwear from Marks and Spencers, I suppose we are not allowed to say anything bad against them too?

Anyway, yes the trophies are awful, but really, does anyone care that much? I doubt the drivers even bother to keep them anymore do they?


Cut the childish trolling. I have no problem at people saying bad things. My problem is with people saying things that are not true. You are allowed to say all the things you feel like to, but I'm allowed to debate them if I want.

I just pointed out something obvious. How can someone say Santander is a crap company? I just asked the poster to do a little research about the company before claming such a thing.

Edited by AdamKOR, 13 September 2010 - 15:30.


#48 ensign14

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 15:39

Thing is, Spain surely has dozens of top-class artists who could come up with something intriguing, it is the country of Picasso, Goya, Miro and Gaudi after all, and would offer services gratis for the publicity. Shame Santander doesn't do something along those lines.

#49 showtime

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 15:56

Thing is, Spain surely has dozens of top-class artists who could come up with something intriguing, it is the country of Picasso, Goya, Miro and Gaudi after all, and would offer services gratis for the publicity. Shame Santander doesn't do something along those lines.

The problem is not Santander, they are looking for publicity and they put their logo as a trophy, obvious. The problem is that they are allowed to do that.

#50 ensign14

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 16:00

They could get more publicity though by getting an artist to do some sort of creation, like the diamond people do at Monaco.