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[retrospeed]

Regarding Alan's query, all of the GP demo cars were handled very competently and managed all three hairpins without a problem. I thought that Mr Eckersley was rather busy, so I didn't engage him in conversation

Stealing Bauble's thunder, I would say that it is Peter Greenfield in the ex-Seaman/Ruesch/Poore 8C taken at the 2006 Donington 'See Red' meeting. Would that be correct, Bob?

It was great weekend and nice to meet up with Alan. We went to Goodwood Friday then via Poole Sat morning in time to cover rally and then racing on Sunday. We now have full gallery on www.retro-speed.co.uk

[Stephen W]

The MS11. Along with the Weslake V12, the Matra engine is a work of art and the sound reverberating off the walls of a street circuit is something else.

I remember the 1968 Monaco GP where the MS11 made its debut. The works brought two cars for Beltoise and the sight and sound of the cars as they ripped through Casino Square during practice was fantastic! Unfortunately Beltoise didn't last very long in the actual race!

[Alan Cox]

I remember the 1968 Monaco GP where the MS11 made its debut. The works brought two cars for Beltoise and the sight and sound of the cars as they ripped through Casino Square during practice was fantastic! Unfortunately Beltoise didn't last very long in the actual race!

A fantastic noise, isn't it, Steve? J-PB was at Angouleme last weekend, but he didn't actually demonstrate any of the Matras, sadly. He did, however, eat his share of the oysters at the Saturday evening gala.

[gio66]

I do not know if this is the right thread, but next week there will be the Imola 200 Revival

Entry list

Timetable

[Giraffe]

I do not know if this is the right thread, but next week there will be the Imola 200 Revival

I don't even think it's the right forum, gio66

[Simon Arron]

Motorcycle racing nostalgia can be found here, Gio: http://forums.autosp...hp?showforum=27

[Phil Rainford]

Another most enjoyable weekend spent in the Charente region, and the Circuit des Remparts. A few samples from Sunday...

I don't know what Howard Thomas (MGB) had done to upset Rick Cutting, but their battle was rather fraught.

Hope you informed everybody of the history of the Dolomite Sprint in British Touring Cars Alan


PAR

[mfd]

Motorcycle racing nostalgia can be found here, Gio: http://forums.autosp...hp?showforum=27

I've opened a new thread there for the Imola 200 Revival
http://forums.autosp...howtopic=154524

Edited by mfd, 24 September 2011 - 11:04.

[Alan Cox]

I've opened a new thread there for the Imola 200 Revival

Wrong forum or not, Gio/Mike, looks like an excellent entry.

[gio66]

Motorcycle racing nostalgia can be found here, Gio: http://forums.autosp...hp?showforum=27

Thank you guys

[mfd]

Wrong forum or not, Gio/Mike, looks like an excellent entry.

The most amazing thing, having visited one recently of these bike revivals, was the noise of multi cylindered two stroke engines - for me that was nostalgic

[gio66]

Wrong forum or not, Gio/Mike, looks like an excellent entry.

Can't wait to shake hands with Phil Read

[elansprint72]

Classic Sports cars raced at Oulton Park today. The word "classic" being stretch way beyond its elastic limits, imho. Just because a car is ten years old, it is not necessarily a classic.

However, even when the racing is as dull as the proverbial ditch-water (the lake is full of blue-green algae) it is possible to find something of interest.


Twelve cylinders and a "classic" trailer:


Zero cylinders:


TR4 and 4A:


The most exciting moment in the Caterham race.


It was 27 degrees, Shirley a record for October? Nice to see some of the usual suspects.

[elansprint72]

Beyond the point of no return...


"Basic laws of Physics, Mr Bond...".

[Bauble]

Regarding Alan's query, all of the GP demo cars were handled very competently and managed all three hairpins without a problem. I thought that Mr Eckersley was rather busy, so I didn't engage him in conversation

Stealing Bauble's thunder, I would say that it is Peter Greenfield in the ex-Seaman/Ruesch/Poore 8C taken at the 2006 Donington 'See Red' meeting. Would that be correct, Bob?

My Thunder? Stolen? How dastardly!!

For further pictures of this and many other events please see my usual web site www.picasaweb.google.co.uk/rbmapics where you will se that the Alfa spent a fair amount of time gyrating at the Chicane that day.

Thanks for saving my blushes, as I no longer have the programme, I could not have answered all of the original query.

[Phil Rainford]

As Pete points out the classic Meeting yesterday at Oulton was for the " more modern machinery"

However....




Stuart Anderson is what started life as a Ferrai 250 GTE



Andrew Sharp's Porsche 934 spitted fire all day and although I took some 183 pictures of it I failed to catch the right moment



Already a classic in many people's eyes....David Beecroft pushes on through Cascades




Matt Spark illustrates the correct pose through Lodge



No wonder Simon Frost makes his tyre last all season



Cheshire was hot yesterday




Tim Stamper enjoys a drive in the country


PAR

[Simon Arron]

It's funny, isn't it? Like Pete, my initial impression was that the Oulton paddock contained little of 'classic' status. But then in 1974/5, 'historic' sports car races regularly contained Ford GT40s and Lola T70s, cars that had been competing at Le Mans only five or six years beforehand. Many of the hatchbacks we saw on Saturday were at least twice that age, yet none would be regarded as icons. The older we get, the fresher stuff seems to be.

Here, meanwhile, are a few cars that never competed in the Ford Fiesta Challenge...

Martyn Adams (Triumph TR7, b1976).


David Nixon (Mazda RX-3, b1972).


The Andrew Sharp/Chris Adams Aston DB2 (b1953).

[Simon Arron]

Sorry, just realised that the first photo is almost the same as a Rainford original. Didn't check the thread carefully enough before posting.

[elansprint72]

A couple from this year's Gold Cup.

[Duc-Man]

Sorry, just realised that the first photo is almost the same as a Rainford original. Didn't check the thread carefully enough before posting.

Looks to me like you stood side by side taking pictures. If that was the case maybe you could arrange who posts what...

[Phil Rainford]

Looks to me like you stood side by side taking pictures. If that was the case maybe you could arrange who posts what...

Believe it or not Mr Arron was by the lake when I took my shot and his image must have been taken a couple of laps earlier....both showing equal lack of imagination


PAR

Edited by Phil Rainford, 04 October 2011 - 18:27.

[Giraffe]

Sorry, just realised that the first photo is almost the same as a Rainford original. Didn't check the thread carefully enough before posting.

Believe it or not Mr Arron was by the lake when I took my shot and his image must have been taken a couple of laps earlier....both showing equal lack of imagination

You know, you two are really not as bad a photographers as we say you are.......

[elansprint72]

Some "different" lines being tried out at the chicane. Gold Cup 2011.



..." a little bit sideways..."

Edited by elansprint72, 05 October 2011 - 20:07.

[raceannouncer2003]

Porsche Rennsport Reunion IV is coming up October 14-16 at Laguna Seca. I will be there and Gregory Campbell will be racing his Elva-Porsche. Any other TNFers? Here is a link:

http://www.mazdaraceway.com/

Vince H.

[Alan Cox]

Looks like a great entry, Vince. Jurgen Barth, Hurley Haywood, Gijs van Lennep in a 917, Brian Redman in a 908/3 and no fewer than 18 956/962 variants.
I hope someone will be able to post some pictures.

[Giraffe]

HSCC Silverstone yesterday......

Michael Lyons secured the Derek Bell Trophy series


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[Eric Dunsdon]

HSCC Silverstone yesterday......

Michael Lyons secured the Derek Bell Trophy series

Shame there werent any historic sports car races!

[Giraffe]

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[simon drabble]

Shame there werent any historic sports car races!

surely Guards and HRS cater for sports car races... this meeting has never had guest series as it is the final meeting of the season

[Bauble]

'Historic'depends on how old you are!

[simon drabble]

'Historic'depends on how old you are!

ahh - well if you want pre-historic I think you needed to be on the Algarve!!
For all that the HSCC "Finals" is normally a very nice meeting with a definite end of term feel to it.

[Bauble]

ahh - well if you want pre-historic I think you needed to be on the Algarve!!
For all that the HSCC "Finals" is normally a very nice meeting with a definite end of term feel to it.

With more than three score years and ten on the clock ..... well I'll leave it to you to work out where I fit in the 'pre - historic debate!

I was at the meeting and have posted pictures on the usual site (link below) no apologies for the quality, the nearest I get to Jeff Bloxham is about four feet. My big advantage is that all can be downloaded free of charge.

Just to put things in to context Eric and I regard Jackie Stewart as one of the new young drivers.

[Giraffe]

More from Silverstone on Saturday....


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Nice to meet TNFer Richard Evans who was at Silverstone for the first time (!) to meet up with Dave Berry. Managed to find Ted for Mike Walker & good to see Mr & Mrs Patrick Sumner fresh from the Force India wind tunnel! Tony Mantle was there too, artfully dodging Richard Taylor, but that's another story entitled "Willment"....

[Eric Dunsdon]

ahh - well if you want pre-historic I think you needed to be on the Algarve!!
For all that the HSCC "Finals" is normally a very nice meeting with a definite end of term feel to it.

You appear to have read something into my Post that wasnt intended. I am well aware of how enjoyable the HSCC October finals meeting can be, thats why I was there again this year, enjoying the sights and sounds of respective Alfa Romeo's, Lancia's and even (albeit briefly!) a De-Tomaso in the saloon car events. However, I still find it odd that The Historic Sports Car Club dont have at least one race for Historic Sports Cars. Admittedly, as my friend Mr Bauble points out, one's definition of 'Historic' can depend on ones age and here I must own up to being an old codger who cant tell a Marcos from a Ginetta and considers any single seater with slick tyres to be 'Modern'!. I know that these strange machines bring a great deal of joy to the majority of forum members and I am truly happy for them, but my day would really have been made by a couple of C and D Type Jaguars and maybe a Ferrari and 300S Maserati. Pre-Historic and proud of it! .

[David McKinney]

...especially as the HSCC grew out of the Griffith Formula, which was specifically for the type of historic sportscars you mention

[Eric Dunsdon]

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[Giraffe]

Shame there werent any historic sports car races!

Yes, but "Post Historic Competition Car Club" just doesn't carry the same cachet, Eric.


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[bradbury west]

More from Silverstone on Saturday....
..... Tony Mantle was there too, artfully dodging Richard Taylor, but that's another story entitled "Willment"....

How reassuring to see that discretion remains your watchword, Tony. Perhaps Tony Mantle might see it differently. I am not in a position to comment.
Roger Lund

[Giraffe]

I am not in a position to comment.
Roger Lund

You just did, Roger.

TNFer Ben Mitchell led the Historic Formula Ford race from pole to flag, but it was not enough to prevent Ben Sims taking the championship.


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PS I do wish they would put a stand (of some sort) back at Copse.

Edited by Giraffe, 24 October 2011 - 14:16.

[Bauble]

Nice to meet TNFer Richard Evans who was at Silverstone for the first time (!) to meet up with Dave Berry. Managed to find Ted for Mike Walker & good to see Mr & Mrs Patrick Sumner fresh from the Force India wind tunnel! Tony Mantle was there too, artfully dodging Richard Taylor, but that's another story entitled "Willment"....

No mention of that bauble bloke then Mr G?

[Giraffe]

Nice to meet TNFer Richard Evans who was at Silverstone for the first time (!) to meet up with Dave Berry. Managed to find Ted for Mike Walker & good to see Mr & Mrs Patrick Sumner fresh from the Force India wind tunnel! Tony Mantle was there too, artfully dodging Richard Taylor, but that's another story entitled "Willment"....

No mention of that bauble bloke then Mr G?

As I said at the time, Bob without the "Bauble" badge is something I find difficult to reconcile! Many thanks for stopping to say hello on one of your many laps of the infield! Where was Eric though?!?! Was he timing you???

[Eric Dunsdon]

As I said at the time, Bob without the "Bauble" badge is something I find difficult to reconcile! Many thanks for stopping to say hello on one of your many laps of the infield! Where was Eric though?!?! Was he timing you???

No , I didnt have my calendar with me!. Actually, I spent a bit of the time down at the other race meeting taking place on the South Circuit. The wind wasnt quite so cold down in Buckinghamshire!.

[simon drabble]

...especially as the HSCC grew out of the Griffith Formula, which was specifically for the type of historic sportscars you mention

It is a great shame that BRDC dont have the Historic Sportscar Championship any more as that was a natural fit. The current version run by Legends doesn't seem to be quite the same as it is more in the "Masters" model.

[Red Socks]

...especially as the HSCC grew out of the Griffith Formula, which was specifically for the type of historic sportscars you mention

But we don't need to get into the politics of how the HSCC were robbed of those cars thirty years ago.
Some of us have long memories.

[Ted Walker]

Well said Mr Socks.

[Alan Cox]

The HSCC announce that the E Type Challenge is to continue next year:

E-type Challenge continues in 2012
The E-type Challenge, created in 2011 to mark the 50th anniversary of the Jaguar E-type, will continue in 2012 when the HSCC will run E-type races at a series of high profile historic race meetings.
Although initially conceived as a one-off programme to mark 50 years of the iconic British sports car, such has been competitor support that the HSCC has decided to repeat the series next season. A programme of five or six events, with some double-headers, is being planned, with at least one date on mainland Europe.
A total of over 70 cars registered for the 2011 season and a record-setting grid of 52 cars competed in a pair of races at the Silverstone Classic in July.
“We spoke to the competitors towards the end of the season and there was widespread support for continuing the concept in 2012,” said HSCC executive director Grahame White. “We plan to run it on very similar lines next season, once more with very thorough scrutineering. There is a pool of around 70 cars ready to race and we are keen to offer them a series of dates at significant historic race meetings. We hope to release the full schedule shortly.”
The series, managed by the Historic Sports Car Club, in conjunction with Jaguar Heritage, was supported by JD Classics in 2011 and runs with two classes, for cars prepared to period race trim and standard cars.