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#51 Zatoichi

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 01:13

Very interesting read SeanValen, can't wait for Silverstone now to see Jaques and NASA-tech in action! :up: :drunk:


SeanValen, on Jun 2 2011, 02:32, said:

Provisional Frogmore Exhaust Carbonate Gortex type 2. It's named frogmore as initially a frog was on the foam debris that was left and found by John Pepper Gortex Junior-a Nasa employee.

And did you know that there are some exotic frogs from which you can get high when you lick on them? Really, it's true! :p





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#52 Totza

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 01:44

Why would he replace Petrov? Heidfield has been the driver under most pressure at Renault.

#53 TurboKeb

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 03:46

Jacques the good yet unlucky driver getting a F1 job? That would be funny. Whatever is the views on that guy, he sure is an.. entertainer. It's only those truly epic career choices that makes the caricatural character he's mostly known for. He got loads of talent, if he can get focused he could be well in the points. And it could be nice for the lot of reserve drivers they got, they could learn a lot from him. I think MS' return in F1 was a complete utopy before that Massa accident in 2009..

#54 R2D2

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 14:59

Or maybe next year, eh?

#55 Jimisgod

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 15:04

Pfft, give the Renault drive to Stirling Moss, as a former Lotus driver he should fit right in and if they're moving to four cylinders in the near-future they need someone with experience driving a donk like that.

#56 NeilMick

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 15:08

If Villeneuve comes back to F1 I will eat a EBD.

#57 SeanValen

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 20:14

Quick update and Scoop on Scoop,

Scoop Doggy Dog and Jacques you may well see on grid as list of names walking the grid before the start of the next Canada GP.

Scoop has apparently been in the studio with Jacques to test and bust tunes on the formula one world. I expect a rap with flich throttle lyics and a story on Senna's teachings to Jacques via a animated video music track to be debuted on MTV at some point.. Keep a long out on the grid for them in Canada.


Over and out.

Remember if your not off throttle or fliching your not trying hard enough!

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#58 R2D2

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 21:53

I heard that JV was recently papped testing out his felch throttle in a certain London brothel.

#59 saudoso

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 22:08

JV is a paying volunteer in this research, soon enought these rumors will become true.

Edited by saudoso, 05 June 2011 - 22:08.


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#60 wdh

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 22:29

Zatoichi, on Jun 2 2011, 02:13, said:

Very interesting read SeanValen, can't wait for Silverstone now to see Jaques and NASA-tech in action! :up: :drunk:



And did you know that there are some exotic frogs from which you can get high when you lick on them? Really, it's true! :p


I doubt that is news to SeanValen ...

#61 arknor

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 23:13

:rotfl: :) omg :rotfl:

this thread went epic ! some of the replies are hilarious

#62 BillBald

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 20:02

I think we've all seen Christian Horner in the pitlane, remotely operating the Flich Throttle for Vettel's benefit - the mechanism is completely invisible of course, so don't ask me to post videos.





#63 Risil

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 20:35

BillBald, on Jun 6 2011, 21:02, said:

I think we've all seen Christian Horner in the pitlane, remotely operating the Flich Throttle for Vettel's benefit - the mechanism is completely invisible of course, so don't ask me to post videos.


Pits-to-car telemetry! I think the FIA technical stewards might have something to say about that. Whitmarsh has been looking in the wrong place with the chassis flexure protests. It would explain Red Bull's relative pace to the Mclarens and Ferraris though... Possibly also Vettel's extraordinary single-lap speed: Horner is evidently they only Red Bull man on the pit wall who's mastered the technique (he was a former racing driver himself, racing against the likes of Montoya, Zonta and Sarrazin), so he can only concentrate on one car, plus, his lower leg strength probably can't keep it up for a whole race.

I think we might be onto something here.....

#64 GreenMachine

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 23:44

Kub, on Jun 2 2011, 10:04, said:

Posting in this historic thread.



Gotta be in it! :up:

#65 AyrtonSauna

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 00:42

JV has enourmous potential to be one of the greatest legends in Formula One!.He only needs to invent a time machine so he can go back to the end of 1997 at Jerez where he won he's WDC against Schumacher and declare after that WDC victory that he would retire from F1 after only 2 seasons!!!

That would have been the most successfull shortest carreer in F1 history!.2 years,11 wins,13 pole positions including a PP in his very 1st F1 race along with 4 wins in his 1st year (1996)

Only the time machine will make JV an F1 legend by erasing his winless and poleless participation in F1 for years and years after 1997!

#66 silencer

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 05:56

autosport need Fringe Division.... NOW!!!


#67 Zatoichi

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 10:38

Hey SeanValen, so Silverstone is approaching now. Any updates on Flich Throttle / Jaques? :up:


#68 Rubens Hakkamacher

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 14:09

Well, you know Craig Pollock is also back in the game and will want a driver he's familiar with to give feedback on the engines...

#69 SeanValen

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 21:13


Zatoichi, on Jul 7 2011, 10:38, said:

Hey SeanValen, so Silverstone is approaching now. Any updates on Flich Throttle / Jaques? :up:



Rubens Hakkamacher, on Jul 7 2011, 14:09, said:

Well, you know Craig Pollock is also back in the game and will want a driver he's familiar with to give feedback on the engines...


http://www1.skysport...-down-Pure-link

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Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper reported that Pure - the company set up by Jacques Villeneuve's former manager and BAR team boss Craig Pollock in anticipation of new rules in 2014 that demand 1.6-litre turbo engines - had been sounded out as possible replacements for Mercedes.

However, a team spokesman told Reuters: "McLaren has had absolutely no contact with Pure for many months.

"Moreover, the contact we did have with Pure, many months ago, was of an entirely informal nature, and was merely a courtesy gesture."



The flich technique allows the engine to be put through certain measures the in-factory test bed won't quite replicate. Mclaren willd deny for now but I think Mclaren Pure racing is a prospect with possble testing duties at least for Jacques, and if he likes the rules, a racing seat if Button or Hamilton wanna try another team.



Villeneuve was meant to replace Trulli, but he now looks to be a mid season replacement. Jacques held off F1 in 2010 and 2011 as he understood just how challenging the tyres are, something Michael Schumacher took time to get to grips with. But with the old rubber gone, Pirelli are getting into driver's good graces, with many positive comments around the paddock for the new 2012 season.

Craig Pollock and Jacques have been in Spain under false names "Otto Bonn" and "Superdave." Aiding their secrecy in around the clock talks for possible seat fittings for later in the season.

The off throttle situation and how Jacques flich throttle movements react with the old set up in the cockpit will be tested on a unspecified time and day.

Edited by SeanValen, 22 February 2012 - 21:25.


#70 Owen

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 21:23

Good, glad that's that cleared up.

#71 wingwalker

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 21:45

:up:

#72 Fastcake

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 21:47

Hmm I do wonder if McLaren's simulator can manage with analysing the Flich Throttle technique, should this be going ahead... :stoned:

#73 chrisblades85

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 21:56

I must admit, Villeneuve racing for McLaren does make sense. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: No, sorry... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Great thread btw.

Edited by chrisblades85, 22 February 2012 - 21:57.


#74 spacekid

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 21:59

Well thats all good to know. It would be a crime for JV to have spent all these years perfecting his flich technique to be frustrated by dodgy rubber.

Just a thought though Sean. I saw JV hanging around the Lotus garage just before the chassis was mysteriously removed from the Barcelona test. After taking a whole season to sack 2 drivers in 2011, do you think its possible that Lotus want to get an early start to their driver sackings in 2012, and are in fact adapting their chassis to allow for optimal fliching? It looks likely to me...

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 20:19

Fastcake, on Feb 22 2012, 21:47, said:

Hmm I do wonder if McLaren's simulator can manage with analysing the Flich Throttle technique, should this be going ahead... :stoned:



Ayrton Senna just before he left Mclaren in 1993 to go to Williams, he was actively involved in providing input to a very early spec simulator, it wasn't anywhere near the advancements of today's technology, no sir no sir, but the throttle mapping and accelerator pedal inputs/design/ and optimal precision placing he was given feedback in this area.

When Senna had his chat with Jacques about flich throttle in early 1994, he did point out that simulator was way off, but one day he could make use of his creative consultant instructions regarding throttle mapping and throttle pedal design which maximised the foot/leg pressure sensitivity in finer detail which Ayrton always considered to make the difference as a natural human traction control in the rain.


I can't remember exactly now but I heard there was a sandwich which was like one of todays protein bars, flapjack, but back in the day, protein bars were unheard of, Bruce Lee was doing protein shakes before anyone, Senna did his own stuff, but his ingredients allowed-get this-to give him better feeling of vibration coming through the whole leg and foot movement, which allowed careful control of that flich which you don't want on the throttle pedal, when your feeding control pressure to the pedal with all that horsepower under your car. This sandwich/flapjack combination was made in Jacques Williams garrage in 1996/1997, they set up a area with some chefs, they stopped doing it from 1998 onwards, when Jacques fired one of the chefs for stealing his watches, he then tried to make the sandwiches by himself, then gave up, then his cars were not competitive/plus him/he became known as cheques in the forums here and was not the driver we expected of him-collecting money and talking about everything else to distract attention from his performances.

When Schumacher broke his leg, in that satalite interivew with Murray at the germany gp, he menstioned the flexiability of the foot area, very important for a driver, and very important for Senna, maybe Schumacher uses some of Senna's ways, but we now know that Jacques is fully ready to take on the flick throttle challenge and drive a formula one car in anger once again. The sandwiches are ready, Mclaren are ready, the simulator with added flich programming inputs are ready, it's now or never I say.

Come on dammit, come on Jacques, goodluck man, no pressure. But then again as Martin Brudle always says "Your either giving pressure or taking pressure." :smoking:



Edited by SeanValen, 28 February 2012 - 20:37.


#76 wrighty

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:27

ok, so the upshot of this thread is....the driver doesn't just stamp on the throttle and leave it there then?......wow.....




just wow.....

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:58

wrighty, on Feb 29 2012, 12:27, said:

ok, so the upshot of this thread is....the driver doesn't just stamp on the throttle and leave it there then?......wow.....


I understand the good work of Mr Valen and others has been crucial in bringing the mysterious "flich throttle" technique to the attention of general F1 fan-dom -- and obviously seasoned F1 insiders such as you or I no longer find such revelations challenging or shocking -- but I hadn't heard the thing about JV firing his sandwich chef before. Truly, the details that emerge after long passage of time.

I'm intrigued that chemists can isolate the proteins required for expert throttle control (presumably something to do with fine-tuning muscle harmonics?) and incorporate them into a driver's diet. Do we know whether Kimi's choc ices were crafted with a similar object in mind? Has he taken his ice cream chef with him to Lotus-Renault?

Edited by Risil, 29 February 2012 - 12:59.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 16:12

If Jacque had known just how difficult he would find it to make his own sandwiches from 1998 onwards he would probably have just given the guy his watch.

Hindsight is a funny thing.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 16:23

spacekid, on Feb 29 2012, 16:12, said:

If Jacque had known just how difficult he would find it to make his own sandwiches from 1998 onwards he would probably have just given the guy his watch.

Hindsight is a funny thing.


Perhaps he wouldn't have built his own team, either. Mind you, the BAR team was the making of Jenson Button, so perhaps Jacques's maniacal building of sandwich infrastructure in compensation of past wrongs helped someone.

At Renault all Villeneuve could get was stale paninis left over from Flavio's lunchbox, no wonder he was so far behind Alonso.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 17:25

SeanValen, on Feb 28 2012, 15:19, said:

Bruce Lee was doing protein shakes before anyone, Senna did his own stuff, but his ingredients allowed-get this-to give him better feeling of vibration coming through the whole leg and foot movement, which allowed careful control of that flich which you don't want on the throttle pedal, when your feeding control pressure to the pedal with all that horsepower under your car. This sandwich/flapjack combination was made in Jacques Williams garrage in 1996/1997, they set up a area with some chefs, they stopped doing it from 1998 onwards, when Jacques fired one of the chefs for stealing his watches, he then tried to make the sandwiches by himself, then gave up, then his cars were not competitive/plus him/he became known as cheques in the forums here and was not the driver we expected of him-collecting money and talking about everything else to distract attention from his performances.


Bruce used raw prime cut rib eye in his and ostrich eggs among all else,not sure about Jacques and Senna,some WD40 maybe?

#81 R2D2

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 21:22

SeanValen, on Feb 28 2012, 20:19, said:

but we now know that Jacques is fully ready to take on the flick throttle challenge and drive a formula one car in anger once again.

So, was it "flick" all along then? And we should add spelling to your list of offences? :)

#82 Risil

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 21:35

R2D2, on Mar 3 2012, 21:22, said:

So, was it "flick" all along then? And we should add spelling to your list of offences? :)


"Flich" is how Jacques spells it, being French-Canadian. :)

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:02

SeanValen, on Feb 23 2012, 02:43, said:

Craig Pollock and Jacques have been in Spain under false names "Otto Bonn" and "Superdave." Aiding their secrecy in around the clock talks for possible seat fittings for later in the season.


That explains the rabbits Schumacher kept running over the other day.

Lots of goodwill for JV, JV for WDC 2013 with Caterham. :up:

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 15:06

BRK, on Mar 4 2012, 08:02, said:

That explains the rabbits Schumacher kept running over the other day.

Lots of goodwill for JV, JV for WDC 2013 with Caterham. :up:



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It has come to my attention that the current DRS ban may effect any flich throttle movements through the Monaco tunnel and exit breaking. Lotus-Renault and Grojean are currently implementing a test boron system to stabilise stability under breaking, and Villeneuve has been involved in the creative aspects of such a system with his foot being printed in cement at the factories of Lotus-Renault. The clement latex castor print of the foot flich was briefly up on ebay worth $300, 000 to motor car designers, Renault-Lotus reacted with legal action, it was down from the site within 3 hours. That's a impressive time frame for legal action, yes indeed!

URGENT QUICK, CAN YOU ASSIST ME? PLEASE RESPOND!!! Was Jacques's exact words when the flich system reset itself in the Lotus-Renault simulator leading up to Monaco on Sunday the 20th of May at precisly 12:22pm.


:smoking:


Edited by SeanValen, 20 May 2012 - 15:15.


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Posted 20 May 2012 - 16:10

SeanValen, on May 20 2012, 16:06, said:

The clement latex castor print of the foot flich was briefly up on ebay worth $300, 000 to motor car designers, Renault-Lotus reacted with legal action, it was down from the site within 3 hours. That's a impressive time frame for legal action, yes indeed!


Well Eric Lux does know a good lawyer or two, maybe he recommended them to his partners.