Valtteri Bottas - excited to see what this kid can do
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:19
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:22
#3
Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:23
I think Maldonado will have the upper hand in the points for the first 4 races then he will overcome him and run away with it.
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:31
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:37
Edited by Disgrace, 04 March 2013 - 22:38.
#6
Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:49
If Bottas is good as Williams are expecting, maybe in him and Hulk we have two future champs. No need for him to impress in the first race ,it takes time and if he has such talent he just need to upgrade that with experience.
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:56
#8
Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:58
Plus, he's Finnish.
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#9
Posted 04 March 2013 - 22:59
I'm expecting him to possibly bin the car in the first 2 races but then really start to impress people.
I think Maldonado will have the upper hand in the points for the first 4 races then he will overcome him and run away with it.
Wow, how could you possibly expect/predict all that.
#10
Posted 04 March 2013 - 23:03
Em. I thought the drivers' threads were banned.
Nah, topic of this thread is excitement/disexcitement about Valtteri Bottas and his rookieness.
Discussion of Valtteri's hamster will require a separate thread. Speaking as a dispenser of legal advice, and not as a judge, of course.
Edited by Risil, 04 March 2013 - 23:04.
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 23:11
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 23:33
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 23:59
#14
Posted 05 March 2013 - 00:02
Despite being an F1 rookie, Bottas has so much experience of the Williams team that he is almost more of a known quantity than his third-year team-mate. His prospects depend more on which Maldonado turns up more often this year, in my opinion.
He was trained and tested by the team in the same way Hulkenberg was, and we saw how good that was for Nico (and Nico Rosberg before him too).
#15
Posted 05 March 2013 - 00:06
Guys, show me your crystal ball dealer!
Crystal what-now dealer?
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 00:14
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 01:28
#18
Posted 05 March 2013 - 02:01
Gutierrez vs Bottas will be interesting do
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 03:35
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:32
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 14:45
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 14:55
#23
Posted 05 March 2013 - 15:23
Hopefully he will keep that up in F1.
Edited by CrashPad, 05 March 2013 - 15:25.
#24
Posted 05 March 2013 - 15:42
His 2011 GP3 season was kinda weird; in the first half he was very invisible, even dissapointing, but when they got all the pieces together he hauled some serious ass and stormed to claim the title. The final race in Monza was simply fantastic, propably the best feeder-series race I have seen (well, atleast the best GP3 race), and Valtteri showed some nerves of steel that day.
Hopefully he will keep that up in F1.
Well I may be biased, but Felix da Costa also had some epic races last year in GP3.
I think there may be some excessive hype around Bottas, but either way, even if he's not the next big thing, personally I believe he'll be a very solid driver.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 20:00
#26
Posted 05 March 2013 - 20:17
What separates Bottas from Maldonado is that Bottas doesn´t make the mistakes Maldonado does, he's a lot more cool headed. Even if Maldonado would have a slight speed advantage Bottas will put a lot of pressure on Maldonado by steadily collecting points. If Maldonado can handle that he might come out on top but that would mean Maldonado would need to do something he's never done before, i.e be driving like he's thinking of the long game. Something in my opinion he lacks and shows no promise of learning anytime soon.People here underestimate Maldonado. Sure, Bottas looks promising, but it's his debut season, so he'll undoubtly make a few mistakes here and there. Have we all forgotten Maldonado's raw speed? He seems to have calmed down a lot as well, so I would be surprised if Bottas beats him in points this season. I still expect Maldonado to come out on top, he has more raw pace than Bottas I think.
I would be truly surprised if Maldonado beats Bottas during this season, unless the Williams is a truly bad car and only possible of the odd result.
#27
Posted 05 March 2013 - 20:24
What separates Bottas from Maldonado is that Bottas doesn´t make the mistakes Maldonado does, he's a lot more cool headed. Even if Maldonado would have a slight speed advantage Bottas will put a lot of pressure on Maldonado by steadily collecting points. If Maldonado can handle that he might come out on top but that would mean Maldonado would need to do something he's never done before, i.e be driving like he's thinking of the long game. Something in my opinion he lacks and shows no promise of learning anytime soon.
I would be truly surprised if Maldonado beats Bottas during this season, unless the Williams is a truly bad car and only possible of the odd result.
The last races of the season, did you even watch those? Maldonado drove very maturely there.
#28
Posted 05 March 2013 - 20:47
I think every member on this board watched all the races, after all aren't we all F1 fanatics more or less? He didn't show maturity, he showed necessity. He needed to do that not to get a race ban or loose his seat but he didn't have pressure from a teammate who was about to beat him. This year is different since he has a teammate who will push him for the position of team leader. And when that happens I'm not convinced he'll be that mature, I believe his true colours will, unfortunately, shine through.The last races of the season, did you even watch those? Maldonado drove very maturely there.
By the way, how many points did he score in the last races?
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 21:31
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#31
Posted 05 March 2013 - 22:12
But I also expect it will take some time. I predict Maldonado will outpace him on a consistent basis in the first 10 or so races this year. Sometimes maybe by a full second in qualifying. But in the second half of the season I expect Bottas to match Pastor's speed. Who will finish the season with more points will be dependent on how mistake prone will Pastor be this year IMO. If he shows little improvement from last year, Bottas will outscore him. If he is able to stay out of trouble for most of the time, I think his speed will be enough to beat Valtteri this year.
Someone has already pointed that Bottas should put more pressure on Pastor than Senna did. I agree. Therefore I'm not sure how Pastor he handle the pressure of being beaten by rookie. He wasn't that crash-prone in 2011, but nobody expected him to beat Rubens that year, something what he was not that far away from.
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 22:28
#33
Posted 06 March 2013 - 00:27
People say he's a good wet weather driver so a wet race could offer him a chance for a surprise result. He isn't known for making a lot of mistakes either, so I think he could prove out to be really consistent already on his debut year. I am looking forward to it, but am not hoping for too much yet. Beating Maldonado in the points would be a great season, I think.
Edited by Wander, 06 March 2013 - 00:28.
#34
Posted 06 March 2013 - 17:48
He was trained and tested by the team in the same way Hulkenberg was, and we saw how good that was for Nico (and Nico Rosberg before him too).
Williams do rather have the knack recently of finding drivers with potential who seem to find their best form in other teams (Button, Hulk, Rosberg, Webber etc etc); or perhaps its that the cars weren't quite as good as they could have been...
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 18:01
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#37
Posted 09 March 2013 - 16:04
When the European season starts, I expect there will be a very interesting rivalry inside the team between the drivers. This is when it comes down to how the drivers handle pressure and it´s going to depend on how the previous races have gone. In an ideal situation, I would want to see Bottas starting to qualify better than Maldonado and getting top 6 finishes before the halfway point of the season. I would not even rule out a podium or two if the car is anywhere near as good as last season.
On his second and third seasons, is when Bottas will have to eventually really prove himself. And I expect he *will* be the next big thing.
Edited by Mendel, 09 March 2013 - 16:11.
#38
Posted 09 March 2013 - 16:10
Apart from the obvious talent, I think he'll bring some personality to the track too.
#39
Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:54
MAXIMUM ATTACK
Wasn´t that Markku Alen´s nickname?
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:06
#41
Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:07
By the way, how many points did he score in the last races?
Don't know, count yourself if you're interested. That's irrelevant though.
#42
Posted 10 March 2013 - 12:14
By the way, how many points did he score in the last races?
Maldonado scored 16 points in the last 6 races in his 2012 campaign.
45 points during the whole season of 20 races... but you have to remember 25 points came from the win in 5th race. Other than that, the last few races were a step up from his early and particularly mid-season performances.
Edited by Mendel, 10 March 2013 - 14:12.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 13:01
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 14:15
#45
Posted 10 March 2013 - 15:56
I think he was overhyped by Toto (as Toto is his manager) and that's part of the reason he has the drive. I'm not fully convinced by him yet, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. But as usual with any teammate rivalries between well-liked/supported drivers, it's gonna be brutal...
Agreed over hyped, you got guys winning the Gp2 series, WSR and have not got a drive yet and he jumps in from GP3. Only now he has a drive we can see how good he is.. Maldonado is no fool and will be hard to beat.
#46
Posted 10 March 2013 - 16:45
Article is about Kovalainen and the article says Heikki didn´t want to end up as a pay driver like Valtteri Bottas who brings 10 million euros worth of Finnish sponsorship money to the team. Bottas gets his paycheck from a portion of that money.
Should Bottas be considered a pay driver?
Edited by Mendel, 10 March 2013 - 16:47.
#47
Posted 10 March 2013 - 16:55
Maybe, but then we should also consider Alonso as one.http://www.hs.fi/urh.../a1362806884921
Article is about Kovalainen and the article says Heikki didn´t want to end up as a pay driver like Valtteri Bottas who brings 10 million euros worth of Finnish sponsorship money to the team. Bottas gets his paycheck from a portion of that money.
Should Bottas be considered a pay driver?
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 17:20
#49
Posted 10 March 2013 - 17:23
I really doubt its even over 5 million. These are not that huge companies
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 18:18