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#1 Ali_G

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 19:44

For us time zones that use day light savings hours coldn ye put the clock forward 1 hour.

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#2 TNSFH

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 19:53

Daylight savings doesn't begin for us until next Sunday morning?

#3 FordPrefect

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:00

UK (and Europe?) is last weekend in March, North America is first weekend in April.

#4 Ali_G

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:04

I might be wrong but isn't this website based in England.

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#5 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:05

I think its time we did away with daylight savings time

#6 Pit Babe

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:07

Originally posted by Ali_G
I might be wrong but isn't this website based in England.

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You are wrong. It is based in the US (Southern California, to be more precise).

#7 Pascal

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:09

Niall, you have to change the hour yourself since the BB is still basing its time on GMT. You have to go in your profile, and select GMT+1 to have the correct time for your daylight savings time zone...

#8 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:11

I thought GMT went ahead as well.


I just asked my friend in London and he said its 9:04pm and its 2:04pm here, and he lives about a 10 minute walk from Greenwich

#9 Ali_G

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:14

Ross: yes in all GMT time zones it is now 10 minutes past 9. its just that they won't be changed until the American times are changed next week.

Pit Babe: It was one or the other and I was unlucky enough to choose the wrong one.

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#10 Pascal

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:17

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
I thought GMT went ahead as well.


GMT never changes. Only the GMT time zone does. See the difference?;)

#11 PeaQ

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:18

time is a overrated subject...

#12 The Swerve

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:18

No, GMT never changes. It is always the same. We just add an hour to it to get British Summer Time (BST) and then later in the year we go back to GMT again.

#13 Ali_G

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:21

Swerve: So its now the same time in say DUblin as it is in Paris ?

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#14 david_martin

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:25

No because in Paris is it now Central European Summer Time, which is GMT +2. Where I am, it is now Eastern European Summer Time, which is GMT +3 :rolleyes:

#15 Ali_G

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 20:26

Dave: Although i believe that portugal are still on Central European Time. So we in Ireland and Britain are now on the same as Portugal aswell.

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#16 The Swerve

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 21:53

If you are talking about GMT - then it is the same time all around the world because GMT is a constant.

#17 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 22:02

but GMT Is only one time zone, all the other time zones are +/-


isnt "zulu time" local time?

#18 The Swerve

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 22:12

GMT isn't a timezone. It is a time constant from which you can measure other times from. It just happens to be in the UK.

#19 FordPrefect

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 22:47

If you have the 'time' check it out here http://time.greenwic...fo/timezone.htm

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#20 bira

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Posted 25 March 2001 - 23:25

Actually nowadays it would be more "correct" to say UTC than GMT. Universal Time Coordinator.

But, it's still based on the Greenwich Meridian 0° or whatever. Beats me if I remember anything from Geography highschool classes. I'm sure Paul Kaizar could teach us a thing or two about that :)

In any case, as others noted. GMT/UTC is a "fixed" point of reference from which timezones are measured. The UK timezone is GMT+0, and in the summer it's GMT+1. Timezones are GMT+/- something, that's all.

So if your clock was moved one hour, you need to move your profile timezone difference one hour as well.

#21 Brent

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 04:11

Time is man-made! :lol:

#22 david_martin

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 06:42

Very true. When Einstein was asked what time was he replied "that which is shown by the hands on a clock" ;)

#23 maxpapis

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 12:02

Money lost can be replaced, but time lost is gone forever. Cunard

#24 Slick

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 12:19

Perhaps we should confuse everbody and use the Internet time system @555 at the moment

#25 bafilas

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 17:00

:)

#26 Paste

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 17:16

I think you've gotta change it in your profile.. Go check out the AtlasF1 Forum for more details..

#27 Pink Panther

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 17:16

:confused:

#28 Zoe

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 17:22

It depends. Methinks the Atlas F1 server is located in the US (can somebody confirm/deny?). Now the US switches to daylight savings time (aka "summer time") later than Europe. Thus, if someone in Europe compares the time, the US lags one hour behind.

I hope this explanation is correct, though!

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#29 Paste

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 18:00

Originally posted by Paste
I think you've gotta change it in your profile.. Go check out the AtlasF1 Forum for more details..



When the admins merge two threads, could that person please say something like "THREADS MERGED" PLEASE?? When two threads are merged without an explanation, nothing makes sense.

#30 Andy

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 18:31

The AtlasF1 server could be in my basement, it really doesn't matter, it is set to GMT!

P.S. Servers don't care whether it's light or dark out, nor summer or winter!!! :rolleyes:


#31 Uncle Davy

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Posted 26 March 2001 - 19:23

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
but GMT Is only one time zone, all the other time zones are +/-


isnt "zulu time" local time?


"Zulu time" and GMT are one and the same.


http://www.lerc.nasa...AEL/ag/zulu.htm


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#32 Senninha2000

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Posted 27 March 2001 - 07:01

For all those using Windows, you actually have to choose what Timezone you are, and your Capital City...

Therefore when the time comes for Daylight Savings to kick in (or out) then the OS automatically updates it, unless the date of the DLS start/end has changed (like it did in some of the Eastern States of Australia for the Olympics, in which about a month or so after we started, the OS automatically changed it forward, and we had to change it back again...

does that make sense?? :)
I may have confused some of you...I sure as hell confused me :)

#33 Andy

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Posted 27 March 2001 - 17:42

Senninha2000 - Yes but this still will not affect/correct your time offset on the AtlasF1 web site.

Unless, of course, Bira wants to program it into the site that when you log onto AtlasF1, Atlas automatically goes into your computer, reads this info from Windows and then adjusts it accordingly! Maybe at the same time she could program it to also go into your bank account and transfer $1.00 to Atlas' bank account for performing this service!! :lol: (See Bira, I'm trying to come up with "profitable" ideas!!;) )

#34 mel

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Posted 29 March 2001 - 13:34

:lol: @Andy

#35 Andy

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Posted 29 March 2001 - 14:22

:p

#36 Uncle Davy

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Posted 29 March 2001 - 14:30

Are we laughing with Andy or at Andy? :D

#37 Andy

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Posted 29 March 2001 - 17:54

:p

#38 Makarias

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Posted 29 March 2001 - 23:09

GMT isn't changing? I thought time was supposed to be constantly changing.

#39 Slick

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Posted 30 March 2001 - 11:38

time doesn't change it always progresses in 1 seconds counts, its the clocks which change :p

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#40 BRG

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Posted 30 March 2001 - 12:06

Originally posted by Slick
time progresses in 1 seconds counts

So how do they manage to time races to thousandths of a second? :confused:


;)

#41 Sally

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Posted 31 March 2001 - 10:20

You people have way to much time on your hands.;)

#42 mel

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Posted 31 March 2001 - 14:10

But some of us have one hour less than others.;)

#43 Andy

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Posted 02 April 2001 - 04:18

I JUST figured out why Ali_G was asking this question! Daylight savings time just hit us here in Canada this weekend and I just now went to reset my "GMT Offset". The previous version of the BB software simply asked to to type in the numerical offset value (e.g.: "-5").

With this new set-up you are asked to pick your time-zone from the list which does not take into account Daylight Savings Time. In effect this means that in order for me (in Montreal) to correctly select my GMT Offset during DST, I must select "Atlantic Canada" as my time zone instead of "Eastern Canada/US" which is my treu timezone.

It took 2 pages but Ali_G you were making sense!! Bira, any suggestions??

#44 bira

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Posted 02 April 2001 - 04:52

Andy, you do realize that the text has nothing to do with the number?

GMT+1 remains GMT+1 whether it would says "London" or "Paris" next to it.

#45 Slick

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Posted 02 April 2001 - 11:07

Doesn't anyone here have a clock on the wall :p

#46 Andy

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Posted 02 April 2001 - 14:29

Originally posted by bira
Andy, you do realize that the text has nothing to do with the number?

GMT+1 remains GMT+1 whether it would says "London" or "Paris" next to it.


Bira, yes I realize that the text has nothing to do with the number, however what I am saying is now that we have changed over to Daylight Savings Time, the options or selections offered are "misleading".

Options given:
  • (GMT -5 hours) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
  • (GMT -4 hours) Atlantic Time (Canada), Caracas

I am in Montreal which is in the "Eastern" time zone for North America, which is GMT -5 when on Standard Time. Once we switch to DST we are GMT -4, but we are still considered "Eastern" time zone.

I know what you are saying and that is that I should go by the "GMT - X" part only, it's just that during DST (about 1/2 the year) the text associated with these offsets is incorrect and can be misleading, that's all! I think that is what Ali_G was getting at.

#47 Pit Babe

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Posted 02 April 2001 - 14:37

I save myself from all this mental anguish by keeping my BB settings on GMT, regardless of what time of year it is and despite the fact that I am not located in a place where GMT is ever the correct time. It's just easier for me to do the math. :)

Or, as Slick pointed out, look at the wall :D

#48 Andy

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Posted 02 April 2001 - 15:20

My clock on the wall is still GMT -5, better buy a new clock! :p :lol: