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Torro Rosso dump Ferrari engines for Renault in 2014


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#1 Wiggy

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:26

Confirmed this morning. They lose the Italian angle, but both Redbull teams will now be powered by the same lump...

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#2 alfa1

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:30

Confirmed this morning. They lose the Italian angle, but both Redbull teams will now be powered by the same lump...



But having two teams worth of data about an engine at a time when they are new unknowns, is unfair.

Christian Horner should complain about this and threaten to lodge a protest.
oh... wait...


#3 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:43

The whole Toro Rosso team has become a farce. Every team you see a Red Bull behind one of the Toro Rosso's, they never put up a fight. It's like Red Bull is competing against 18 other cars, whilst the rest is against 20 and Red Bull gets helped by two other cars when rivals are behind them. Though Sauber and Ferrari have the same link, they are not so extreme in that.

Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 26 May 2013 - 10:44.


#4 Cavani

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:17

well nobody is stopping ferrari from buying sauber or any team, you blame redbull for being able to run two teams extremely competitive . if ferrari or any big name owned two teams they would be stupid if they don't make the two teams cooperate on and off track

#5 Baddoer

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:17

So. 4 RB10 on the grid in Australia.

#6 MichaelPM

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:24

So RB won't have any data on their rivals engines.....good! :up:

#7 Cavani

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:27

So RB won't have any data on their rivals engines.....good! :up:


wouldn't make much difference

#8 MichaelPM

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:44

wouldn't make much difference

Because things where so equal before the engine freeze, or even after it? having technical information on the most complex part of the car is handy stuff.
The blown diffuser farce would of been over much sooner if Ferrari had a B team to test Renault engines for them.

#9 Raziel

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:51

So RB won't have any data on their rivals engines.....good! :up:


and also confirms that Renault engines are better then Ferraris

#10 FPV GTHO

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 11:54

You have to assume Mercedes will be pushing Force India for data and likewise Ferrari and Sauber. In some regards Red Bull and Toro Rosso are trailing their rivals in this area until now by having both their teams use different engines, gearboxes and rear suspension despite their ownership.

#11 Kingshark

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 23:53

and also confirms that Toro Rosso believe Renault engines are better then Ferraris

Fixed that for you. :wave:

I doubt even Red Bull or Ferrari themselves know who truly has the better engine, so what makes you think STR would know for certain?

#12 fabr68

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 23:59

Good riddance. I mean Ferrari dumping Red Bulls pet team.