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#1 dgs

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 09:01

It certainly would not be allowed by the FIA now, but in the 1980's and 1990's when a new circuit was used in the Formula One World Championship or a circuit was radically modified, a special accimatisation practice sessions would be held. Often these were on the Thursday before Official Practice commenced on the Friday.

So far I have identified the following:

1981 Caesars Palace (Las Vegas) Autocourse Annual state Wednesday am session (time period?)
1982 Detroit (Detroit) Autocourse Annual state originally a Thursday 'familiarisation' practice session was arranged, but this was abandoned due to track safety issues.

1984 Dallas (Dallas) Thursday one time session known 11.30am to 12.30pm
1985 Australian (Adelaide) Autocourse Annual state Thursday pm session (time period?)
1986 Hungarian (Hungaroring) Autocourse Annual state Thursday two hour session
1986 Mexican (Mexico City) Autocourse Annual state Thursday two- two hour sessions
1992 South African (Kyalami) Thursday two sessions
1993 European (Donington Park) two sessions
1994 Pacific (TI Aida) Thursday (one session known of)
1995 Argentine (Buenos Aires) Thursday two sessions, 11.00am to 12.00am, 1.30pm to 2.30pm
1995 San Marino (Imola) Thursday two sessions
1995 European (Nurburgring) Thursday (one session known of)
1995 Australian (Melbourne) Thursday two sessions
1997 Austrian (Osterreichring) Thursay two sessions

Did any other Grand Prix's have acclimatisation sessions? Also has anyone got any times from these sessions?

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#2 king_crud

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 09:44

Melbourne was 1996, not 1995. I was there for the sessions!

#3 dgs

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 13:21

Melbourne was 1996, not 1995. I was there for the sessions!



Apologies for a one-fingered typing error on my part, of course it was 1996 (first year of GP at Melbourne)

#4 lustigson

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 14:17

For all the new Grands Prix of the last 15 years, there were never such sessions, I believe. Which I found strange, since they were something of a fixture for new races during the 80s and 90s, right?

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 15:04

For all the new Grands Prix of the last 15 years, there were never such sessions, I believe. Which I found strange, since they were something of a fixture for new races during the 80s and 90s, right?


I'd have thought it was a good idea with any new track or corner, if only to help the tarmac bed-in somewhat.

#6 D-Type

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 15:17

Way back when, before allowing a new GP into the championship calendar the FIA required the organisers to demonstrate their competence by running a non-championship GP first, eg Morocco. The exception was the 1959 US GP as Sebring had successfully run the 12 hour race for several years. Nowadays I believe they simply pay Bernie's organisation to run it for them.

#7 dgs

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 10:53

Further research has identified one more Grand Prix that had acclimisation sessions:

1990 Brazilian (Interlagos) Autocourse Annual state two one hour sessions held Thursday: am (wet) bpt M.Donnolly, pm (dry) bpt A.Senna

#8 Elio de Maky

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 15:46

1981 - Las Vegas

Wednesday morning
1.Jones 1'22.106, 2.Watson 1'23.372, 3.Reutemann 1'24.379, 4.Giacomelli 1'24.731, 5.DeAngelis 1'24.936, 6.Laffite 1'25.092, 7.Prost 1'25.169, 8.Mansell 1'25.237, 9.Piquet 1'25.655, 10.Jarier 1'26.121, 11.Tambay 1'26.132, 12.Pironi 1'26.352, 13.Alboreto 1'26.447, 14.Cheever 1'26.911, 15.Villeneuve 1'26.914, 16.DeCesaris 1'27.093, 17.Andretti 1'27.429, 18.Daly 1'27.444, 19.Borgudd 1'27.600, 20.Surer 1'28.272, 21.Henton 1'28.440, 22.Rebaque 1'29.027, 23.Warwick 1'29.095, 24.Villeneuve J. 1'29.666, 25.Patrese 1'29.696, 26.Rosberg 1'29.965, 27.Gabbiani 1'30.024, 28.Salazar 1'30.472, 29.Serra 1'30.722, 30.Arnoux 1'31.939

Wednesday afternoon
1.Jones 1'19.488, 2.Reutemann 1'19.569, 3.Mansell 1'20.495, 4.Watson 1'20.977, 5.Andretti 1'21.510, 6.Patrese 1'21.701, 7.Giacomelli 1'21.810, 8.Piquet 1'21.922, 9.Rebaque 1'22.042, 10.Villeneuve 1'22.434, 11.Tambay 1'22.605, 12.DeAngelis 1'22.788, 13.Cheever 1'23.245, 14.Alboreto 1'23.624, 15.Jarier 1'23.693, 16.Prost 1'23.697, 17.DeCesaris 1'23.729, 18.Borgudd 1'23.767, 19.Daly 1'23.839, 20.Surer 1'24.596, 21.Arnoux 1'24.638, 22.Pironi 1'24.701, 23.Laffite 1'25.025, 24.Rosberg 1'25.181, 25.Salazar 1'25.195, 26.Warwick 1'26.249, 27.Serra 1'26.344, 28.Henton 1'26.453, 29.Villeneuve J. 1'26.819, 30.Gabbiani 1'30.603

#9 Bloggsworth

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 15:46

The drivers now get weeks of acclimatisation on the simulators, no need to even see the circuit.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 07:16

An acclimatisation session was held before the 1991 Spanish Grand Prix as well, which was held at the Montmeló circuit for the very first time.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 14:49

Yet another acclimatisation session took place at Kyalami in 1992 when the revised circuit was opened. The times of that session would be certainly interesting because this was the only time where the repainted Coloni C4 ran in Andrea Moda colours driven by Alex Caffi. Interestingly enough the team had a second car there for Enrico Bertaggia but there wasn't enough time and/our spare parts to prepare it for the session. So it looks as though Bertaggia never took the track.



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 17:48

1996 Monaco. 15 minute session.

 



#13 dgs

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:02

Yet another acclimatisation session took place at Kyalami in 1992 when the revised circuit was opened. The times of that session would be certainly interesting because this was the only time where the repainted Coloni C4 ran in Andrea Moda colours driven by Alex Caffi. Interestingly enough the team had a second car there for Enrico Bertaggia but there wasn't enough time and/our spare parts to prepare it for the session. So it looks as though Bertaggia never took the track.

Two by one hour acclimatisation sessions took place at 1992 South African Grand Prix, held on 27th February..

 

At both sessions N.Mansell recorded best time, with times of 1'18.850" (17 laps completed)  & 1'17.107" (12 laps completed).

 

The only recorded time by a Andrea Moda Formula car was  at second session with No 34 Alex Caffi recording a time of 55'03.034" (completed 1 lap). . This suggests Caffi spent most of the lap time in pit lane.

 

Both sessions had 30 drivers recording a time    



#14 Blue6ix

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 18:50

Any other times from those sessions when being held at Kyalami?

 

Or any other times from the different years when those Acclimatisation Sessions were held?

 

Excluding already mentioned Las Vegas 1981 of course.

 

In the season of 1991, I think that Magny-Cours and Silverstone had also those sessions as well (Magny-Cours for a completely new track and Silverstone for their much changed circuit along with their respective tyre test preceeding it.)


Edited by Blue6ix, 23 August 2018 - 18:55.


#15 Michael Ferner

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 20:13

1986

Apr 10, Jerez de la Frontera

1 Prost 1'25.446"
2 Piquet 1'25.807"
3 Mansell 1'27.083"
4 Rosberg 1'27.401"
5 Senna 1'27.570"
6 Fabi 1'28.002"
7 Berger 1'28.180"
8 Arnoux 1'28.738"
9 de Angelis 1'28.800"
10 Alboreto 1'28.937"
11 Dumfries 1'29.211"
12 Johansson 1'30.558"
13 Brundle 1'30.845"
14 Tambay 1'31.036"
15 Surer 1'31.270"
16 de Cesaris 1'31.289"
17 Palmer 1'31.367"
18 Boutsen 1'31.373"
19 Nannini 1'31.498"
20 Ghinzani 1'31.654"
21 Streiff 1'31.670"
22 Jones 1'32.301"
23 Patrese 1'32.765"
24 Danner 1'34.316"
25 Laffite 1'35.788"

Aug 7, Hungaroring

1 Senna 1'35.494"
2 Mansell 1'35.670"
3 Piquet 1'36.182"
4 Jones 1'36.331"
5 Prost 1'36.763"
6 Rosberg 1'37.190"
7 Alliot 1'37.559"
8 Johansson 1'37.581"
9 Patrese 1'38.116"
10 Alboreto 1'38.119"
11 Tambay 1'38.685"
12 Fabi 1'38.711"
13 Arnoux 1'38.941"
14 Dumfries 1'39.529"
15 Berger 1'39.567"
16 Danner 1'40.305"
17 Warwick 1'40.345"
18 Brundle 1'40.451"
19 Boutsen 1'40.922"
20 Nannini 1'40.969"
21 de Cesaris 1'41.126"
22 Streiff 1'41.382"
23 Palmer 1'42.566"
24 Ghinzani 1'44.097"
25 Berg 1'45.698"
26 Rothengatter 1'47.264"

Oct 9, Ciudad de Mexico

1 Senna 1'19.883"
2 Piquet 1'20.614"
3 Mansell 1'20.713"
4 Jones 1'21.062"
5 Prost 1'21.402"
6 Alboreto 1'21.493"
7 Berger 1'21.763"
8 Fabi 1'21.787"
9 Rosberg 1'22.348"
10 Warwick 1'22.610"
11 Arnoux 1'22.74"
12 Tambay 1'23.37"
13 Dumfries 1'23.41"
14 Alliot 1'23.48"
15 Johansson 1'23.53"
16 Patrese 1'23.70"
17 Palmer 1'24.07"
18 Streiff 1'24.07"
19 de Cesaris 1'24.54"
20 Danner 1'24.61"
21 Brundle 1'25.26"
22 Rothengatter 1'25.34"
23 Boutsen 1'25.99"
24 Nannini 1'27.06"
25 Berg 1'31.02"
26 Ghinzani nt

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#16 Michael Ferner

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 20:39

1993

Apr 8, Donington Park

1 Prost 1'13.182" 18 laps
2 Hill 1'13.263" 12
3 Berger 1'14.370" 21
4 Senna 1'14.481" 14
5 Herbert 1'14.899" 14
6 Brundle 1'15.318" 26
7 Alliot 1'15.330" 15
8 Lehto 1'15.432" 15
9 Schumacher 1'15.504" 10
10 Blundell 1'15.845" 11
11 Alesi 1'15.930" 16
12 Patrese 1'15.971" 16
13 Fittipaldi 1'16.389" 17
14 Barbazza 1'16.492" 11
15 Comas 1'16.538" 13
16 Boutsen 1'17.549" 13
17 Wendlinger 1'17.678" 10
18 Barrichello 1'17.887" 11
19 de Cesaris 1'18.967" 14
20 Warwick 1'19.034" 6
21 Andretti 1'19.128" 3
22 Badoer 1'19.167" 15
23 Zanardi 1'19.611" 16
24 Alboreto 1'20.137" 14
25 Katayama 1'23.107" 13
26 Suzuki 1'24.419" 13

Source: FIA Computerised Results & Timing Service

#17 dgs

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 06:43

1992 SOUTH AFRICAN

(First session)

 

Mansell       1'18.850"

Senna          1'19.461"

Patrese        1'21..069"

Alesi             1'21.404"

Berger          1'21.460"

Brundle        1'21.724"

Capelli          1'22.169"

Hakkinen      1'22.291"

Wendlinger   1'22.667"

Modena        1'22.740"

Herbert         1'22.929"

Martini          1'23.246"

de Cesaris    1'23.312"

Lehto            1'23.569"

Alboreto        1'23.589"

Morbidelli      1'23.752"

Gugelmin      1'23.943"

Tarquini         1'24.049"

Gachot          1'24.095"

Boutsen        1'24.154"

Schumacher 1'24.391"

Fittipaldi        1'24.507"

Grouillard      1'24.548"

Suzuki           1'24.842"

Comas           1'25.837"

Belmondo      1'26.428"

Katayama      1'26.579"

Chiesa           1'30.952"

van de Poele  1'31.033"

Amati             1'36.626"       

 

(2nd Session)

 

Mansell              1'17.107"

Berger                1'18.660"

Senna                1'19.007"

Patrese              1'19.691"

Alesi                   1'19.743"

Schumacher      1'19.807"

Capelli                1'20.502"

Brundle              1'20.588"

de Cesaris          1'21.050"

Herbert               1'21.342"

Morbidelli            1'21.386"

Boutsen              1'21.587"

Wendlinger         1'21.734"

Suzuki                1'21.940"

Hakkinen            1'21.949"

Fittipaldi              1'22.113"

Comas                1'22.389"

Alboreto              1'22.399"

Modena              1'22.434"

Grouillard            1'22.686"

Gugelmin            1'22.808"

Lehto                  1'23.134"

Gachot                1'24.015"

Katayama           1'24.497"

van de Poele      1'25.045"

Chiesa                1'25.058"

Martini                1'26.923"

Belmondo           1'27.250"

Amati                  1'28.937"

Caffi                    55'03.034"

 

 

    

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#18 Michael Ferner

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 18:59

1985

Oct 31, Adelaide

1 Senna 1'24.029"
2 Boutsen 1'24.947"
3 Piquet 1'25.131"
4 Surer 1'25.168"
5 Rosberg 1'25.171"
6 Mansell 1'25.288"
7 Alboreto 1'25.327"
8 de Angelis 1'25.621"
9 Warwick 1'25.690"
10 Prost 1'25.734"
11 Berger 1'25.858"
12 Tambay 1'25.893"
13 Cheever 1'25.919"
14 Jones 1'26.081"
15 Johansson 1'26.198"
16 Lauda 1'26.785"
17 Ghinzani 1'27.136"
18 Laffite 1'27.355"
19 Fabi 1'27.522"
20 Brundle 1'27.636"
21 Capelli 1'27.943"
22 Patrese 1'28.723"
23 Streiff 1'28.733"
24 Rothengatter 1'30.088"
25 Martini 1'30.249"

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#19 Blue6ix

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Posted 28 August 2018 - 14:26

Thank you very much for the earlier messages and answers!

 

I did found lap times from the 1991 Spanish Grand Prix Thursday Practice as well so I put those times right away and hopefully they are correct ones:

 

1991

 

Sept 26, Barcelona

 

1 Mansell 1:22.239
2 Senna 1:22.810
3 Schumacher 1:22.828
4 Brundle 1:23.528
5 Piquet 1:24.131
6 Patrese 1:24.382
7 Alesi 1:24.464
8 Modena 1:24.865
9 Hakkinen 1:24.882
10 Prost 1:25.086
11 Berger 1:25.145
12 Blundell 1:25.254
13 Nakajima 1:25.464
14 Morbidelli 1:25.561
15 Bernard 1:25.567
16 Gugelmin 1:25.684
17 Alboreto 1:26.004
18 de Cesaris 1:26.053
19 Suzuki 1:26.405
20 Comas 1:26.446
21 Martini 1:26.447
22 Zanardi 1:26.508
23 Tarquini 1:26.576
24 Boutsen 1:27.333
25 Caffi 1:27.908
26 Pirro 1:27.949
27 Lehto 1:28.004
28 Larini 1:28.060
29 Capelli 1:28.984
30 Grouillard 1:30.069
31 van de Poele 1:30.303
32 Barbazza 1:34.545

33 Bartels nt

 

I also do have a few other times for Thursday Practice sessions and I have heard also that in 1987, there was a Thursday Practice for Suzuka and that in 1989, there possibly were a Thursday Practice for Phoenix as well.



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Posted 28 August 2018 - 14:37

Here are times from the Thursday Practice of the 1994 Pacific Grand Prix and hopefully they are the correct ones:

 

1994

 

Apr 14, TI Circuit Aida

 

1 Schumacher 1:11.307
2 Senna 1:12.572
3 Hill 1:12.601
4 Hakkinen 1:13.169
5 Verstappen 1:13.703
6 Fittipaldi 1:13.727
7 Berger 1:13.773
8 Frentzen 1:13.867
9 Comas 1:13.908
10 Wendlinger 1:14.335
11 Larini 1:14.343
12 Brundle 1:14.371
13 Barrichello 1:14.525
14 Morbidelli 1:14.538
15 Panis 1:14.676
16 Herbert 1:15.029
17 Alboreto 1:15.148
18 Blundell 1:15.256
19 Katayama 1:15.450
20 Bernard 1:15.577
21 Beretta 1:15.647
22 Suzuki 1:15.885
23 Brabham 1:16.105
24 Lamy 1:16.796
25 Martini 1:17.523
26 Gachot 1:18.027
27 Ratzenberger 1:18.047
28 Belmondo 1:20.114



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Posted 28 August 2018 - 15:28

Here are the times from the 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix Second Thursday Practice session which hopefully are the correct ones:

 

1990

 

22 Mar, Interlagos

 

2nd Session

 

1 Senna 1'20,233''
2 Mansell 1'21,326''
3 Prost 1'21,527''
4 Berger 1'21,735''
5 Suzuki 1'21,944''
6 Bernard 1'21,965''
7 Martini 1'22,181''
8 Alliot 1'22,183''
9 Modena 1'22,371''
10 Warwick 1'22,630''
11 Alesi 1'22,903''
12 Boutsen 1'22,927''
13 Lehto 1'22,947''
14 Piquet 1'23,092''
15 Nannini 1'23,277''
16 Johansson 1'23,399''
17 Alboreto 1'23,415''
18 Dalmas 1'23,466''
19 Nakajima 1'24,010''
20 Gugelmin 1'24,121''
21 Donnelly 1'24,239''
22 Tarquini 1'24,906''
23 Larini 1'24,305''
24 de Cesaris 1'24,379''
25 Foitek 1'24,724''
26 Morbidelli 1'25,465''
27 Patrese 1'25,475''
28 Caffi 1'25,592''
29 Barilla 1'26,019''
30 Langes 1'26,582''
31 Moreno 1'27,325''
32 Capelli 1'27,471''
33 Grouillard 1'31,643''
34 Gachot 1'35,740''
35 Brabham 2'01,801''

 

PS. I also have partially complete times from the 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix First Thursday Practice.


Edited by Blue6ix, 29 August 2018 - 13:33.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 18:48

Here are the times from the 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix Second Thursday Practice session which hopefully are the correct ones:

 

1990

 

22 Mar, Interlagos

 

2nd Session

 

1 Senna 1'20,233''
2 Mansell 1'21,326''
3 Prost 1'21,527''
4 Berger 1'21,735''
5 Suzuki 1'21,944''
6 Bernard 1'21,965''
7 Martini 1'22,181''
8 Alliot 1'22,183''
9 Modena 1'22,371''
10 Warwick 1'22,630''
11 Alesi 1'22,903''
12 Boutsen 1'22,927''
13 Lehto 1'22,947''
14 Piquet 1'23,092''
15 Nannini 1'23,277''
16 Johansson 1'23,399''
17 Alboreto 1'23,415''
18 Dalmas 1'23,466''
19 Nakajima 1'24,010''
20 Gugelmin 1'24,121''
21 Donnelly 1'24,239''
22 Tarquini 1'24,906''
23 Larini 1'24,305''
24 de Cesaris 1'24,379''
25 Foitek 1'24,724''
26 Morbidelli 1'25,465''
27 Patrese 1'25,475''
28 Caffi 1'25,592''
29 Barilla 1'26,019''
30 Langes 1'26,582''
31 Moreno 1'27,325''
32 Capelli 1'24,471''
33 Grouillard 1'31,643''
34 Gachot 1'35,740''
35 Brabham 2'01,801''

 

PS. I also have partially complete times from the 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix First Thursday Practice.

I for one would like to see the partial times from 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix first Thursday times



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 00:15

I for one would like to see the partial times from 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix first Thursday times

Okay then, here are some of the times from 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix First Thursday Practice even though not all positions aren't defined, only some of them sadly:

 

1990

 

22 Mar, Interlagos

 

1st Session (Only partial as for time being.)

 

1 Donnelly 1.33.587

2 Mansell 1.33.655

3 Warwick 1.33.886

4 Bernard 1.34.038

5 Senna 1.34.592

6 Boutsen 1.34.657

..

9 Prost 1.35.524

..

12 Lehto 1.36.510

.....

18 Johansson 1.38.347

....

23 Piquet 1.39.627

......

30 Berger 1.51.892

.....?

 

PS. I do have some other partially complete times as well from some other races which had Thursday Practices and some of them had more times and some of them had less times.


Edited by Blue6ix, 29 August 2018 - 00:17.


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Posted 29 August 2018 - 06:46

Okay then, here are some of the times from 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix First Thursday Practice even though not all positions aren't defined, only some of them sadly:

 

1990

 

22 Mar, Interlagos

 

1st Session (Only partial as for time being.)

 

1 Donnelly 1.33.587

2 Mansell 1.33.655

3 Warwick 1.33.886

4 Bernard 1.34.038

5 Senna 1.34.592

6 Boutsen 1.34.657

..

9 Prost 1.35.524

..

12 Lehto 1.36.510

.....

18 Johansson 1.38.347

....

23 Piquet 1.39.627

......

30 Berger 1.51.892

.....?

 

PS. I do have some other partially complete times as well from some other races which had Thursday Practices and some of them had more times and some of them had less times.

Even  Partial lists are worth seeing



#25 dgs

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:07

Acclimatisation session times I really would like to see include:

 

1978 Argentine

1979 Brazilian. This is mentioned in book Memories of James Hunt by Christopher Hilton (but not times shown)

1984 United States (Dallas) believe 3 lap pre-race session after track repairs overnight (not strictly an acclimatisation session, but would be interesting to see)

 

1984 Portuguese

1985 South African ??? (not sure if an acclimatisation session took place)

1985 Australian

1986 Spanish

1986 Hungarian

1986 Mexican

1987 Japanese

1991 French

 

  



#26 Michael Ferner

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 07:59

There was no acclimatisation session at Kyalami in 1985, just the regular practice and qualifying sessions on Thursday. Acclimatisation session times for the other 1985 and '86 races have already been posted, see posts #15 and #18.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 08:31

There was no acclimatisation session at Kyalami in 1985, just the regular practice and qualifying sessions on Thursday. Acclimatisation session times for the other 1985 and '86 races have already been posted, see posts #15 and #18.

Apologies to Michael.

I had seen his times for 1985 & 1986 acclimatisation sessions. Very welcombe

Also good to have confirmation on 1985 South African GP 



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 09:16

Here are the times from the 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix Second Thursday Practice session which hopefully are the correct ones:

 

1990

 

22 Mar, Interlagos

 

2nd Session

 

1 Senna 1'20,233''
2 Mansell 1'21,326''
3 Prost 1'21,527''
4 Berger 1'21,735''
5 Suzuki 1'21,944''
6 Bernard 1'21,965''
7 Martini 1'22,181''
8 Alliot 1'22,183''
9 Modena 1'22,371''
10 Warwick 1'22,630''
11 Alesi 1'22,903''
12 Boutsen 1'22,927''
13 Lehto 1'22,947''
14 Piquet 1'23,092''
15 Nannini 1'23,277''
16 Johansson 1'23,399''
17 Alboreto 1'23,415''
18 Dalmas 1'23,466''
19 Nakajima 1'24,010''
20 Gugelmin 1'24,121''
21 Donnelly 1'24,239''
22 Tarquini 1'24,906''
23 Larini 1'24,305''
24 de Cesaris 1'24,379''
25 Foitek 1'24,724''
26 Morbidelli 1'25,465''
27 Patrese 1'25,475''
28 Caffi 1'25,592''
29 Barilla 1'26,019''
30 Langes 1'26,582''
31 Moreno 1'27,325''
32 Capelli 1'24,471''
33 Grouillard 1'31,643''
34 Gachot 1'35,740''
35 Brabham 2'01,801''

 

PS. I also have partially complete times from the 1990 Brazilian Grand Prix First Thursday Practice.

The time for Capelli looks odd. 32nd, 1'24.471" below 31st Moreno 1'27.325"



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 13:32

The time for Capelli looks odd. 32nd, 1'24.471" below 31st Moreno 1'27.325"

Oh...

 

It was just a typing error, that's all.

 

I'll fix it right away because the real time was 1'27'471.



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 14:37

Here are the partial results from the 1984 Portuguese Grand Prix Thursday Practice. It includes 10 fastest drivers only as for time being:

 

1984

 

18 Oct, Estoril

 

1 Prost 1.26.696

2 de Angelis 1.26.851

3 Senna 1.26.882

4 Lauda 1.27.323

5 Mansell 1.27.374

6 Rosberg 1.27.759

7 Johansson 1.27.872

8 Laffite 1.27.941

9 Tambay 1.27.949

10 Boutsen 1.28.183


Edited by Blue6ix, 29 August 2018 - 15:52.


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Posted 29 August 2018 - 21:16

After a quite hard searching, I have managed to find out 1987 Japanese Grand Prix Thursday Practice times entirely when as of almost to this fine day, I only had of those times partially up to the Nelson Piquet's time.

 

Meaning ten fastest times, of course.

 

However, here are the times for this session which Nigel Mansell did clock away fastest and it promised so much before the inenvitable accident:

 

1987

 

29 Oct, Suzuka

 

1 Mansell 1.43.305

2 Senna 1.43.550
3 Prost 1.44.254
4 Berger 1.44.509
5 Alboreto 1.46.149
6 Johansson 1.46.192
7 Nakajima 1.46.734
8 Fabi 1.47.017
9 Boutsen 1.47.017 (Boutsen had a tie with Fabi, but Boutsen's second fastest time were only a bit slower by time of 1.47.181 which he then dropped behind Fabi because Fabi's own second fastest time were only marginally faster than Boutsen's own.)
10 Piquet 1.47.917
11 Patrese 1.48.380

12 Brundle 1.50.025
13 Warwick 1.50.504
14 Capelli 1.50.593
15 Nannini 1.50.633
16 Palmer 1.51.431
17 Alliot 1.52.388
18 Dalmas 1.52.827
19 Caffi 1.52.879
20 Streiff 1.53.027
21 Arnoux 1.53.370
22 Ghinzani 1.53.459
23 Cheever 1.54.549
24 Moreno 1.53.668
25 de Cesaris 1.54.241
26 Campos 1.54.695
27 Danner 1.55.407



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 22:03

Here are partial times for the 1995 San Marino Grand Prix Thursday Practice and for it's First Session:

 

1995

 

27 Apr, Imola

 

1st Session (Only partial as for time being.)

 

1 Alesi 1.32.363

2 Schumacher 1.32.907

3 Hill 1.33.290

4 Coulthard 1.33.454

5 Berger 1.33.705

6 Hakkinen 1.33.873

.......

14 Salo 1.37.468

...

18 Katayama 1.41.329

..

21 Mansell 1.42.898

.....?



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Posted 29 August 2018 - 22:25

Here are partial times for the 1996 Australian Grand Prix Thursday Practice and for it's First Session. It includes 8 fastest drivers only as for time being:

 

1996

 

Mar 8, Melbourne

 

1st Session

 

1 Hill 1.34.392

2 Schumacher 1.35.018

3 Alesi 1.35.942

4 Villeneuve 1.36.232

5 Irvine 1.36.300

6 Coulthard 1.36.861

7 Salo 1.37.051

8 Hakkinen 1.37.094



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Posted 30 August 2018 - 15:45

1996 Australian Grand Prix

 

Thursday, combined times from both sessions

 

1. Villeneuve 1:33.401

2. Hill 1:34.392

3. Alesi 1:34.664

4. Schumacher 1:35.018

5. Verstappen 1:35.057

6. Barrichello 1:35.115

7. Irvine 1:35.349

8. Berger 1:35.362

9. Panis 1:35.780

10. Frentzen 1:36.135

11. Häkkinen 1:36.253

12. Coulthard 1:36.330

13. Herbert 1:36.678

14. Salo 1:37.051

15. Brundle 1:37.051

16. Katayama 1:37.903

17. Lamy 1:38.072

18. Rosset 1:38.367

19. Diniz 1:38.447

20. Fisichella 1:39.142

21. Badoer 1:51.007

22. Montermini 2:05.379

 

MOTORSPORT aktuell 1996-03-13

 



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Posted 02 September 2018 - 22:56

Here are the times for the 1995 Argentine Grand Prix Thursday Practice and they are from the First Session since I sadly don't have any Second Session times:

 

1995

 

Apr 6, Buenos Aires

 

1st Session

 

1 Alesi 1.35.187

2 Coulthard 1.35.515

3 Berger 1.35.630

4 Salo 1.35.960

5 Herbert 1.36.036

6 Frentzen 1.36.104

7 Schumacher 1.36.222

8 Hill 1.36.637

9 Hakkinen 1.36.720

10 Irvine 1.36.819

11 Blundell 1.37.192

12 Katayama 1.37.376

13 Morbidelli 1.37.584

14 Martini 1.38.140

15 Wendlinger 1.39.213

16 Panis 1.39.612

17 Badoer 1.40.122

18 Moreno 1.41.314

19 Barrichello 1.42.056

20 Gachot 1.43.160

21 Suzuki 1.43.543

22 Inoue 1.46.733

23 Diniz 1.47.354

24 Schiattarella 1.56.471

25 Montermini 2.14.306

26 Verstappen nt



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Posted 02 September 2018 - 23:06

 Here are the times from the 1995 San Marino Grand Prix Thursday Practice and these times are from the Second Session since I do have First Session times, but only as of an partially complete times:

 

1995

 

Apr 27, Imola

 

2nd Session

 

1 Alesi 1.30.081

2 Coulthard 1.30.448

3 Schumacher 1.31.110

4 Berger 1.31.322

5 Hakkinen 1.31.827

6 Hill 1.32.228

7 Herbert 1.32.292

8 Mansell 1.32.597

9 Morbidelli 1.32.608

10 Irvine 1.32.976

11 Barrichello 1.33.370

12 Panis 1.34.001

13 Frentzen 1.34.129

14 Katayama 1.34.543

15 Suzuki 1.35.203

16 Martini 1.35.286

17 Verstappen 1.35.628

18 Salo 1.35.951

19 Badoer 1.36.448

20 Wendlinger 1.36.806

21 Gachot 1.39.389

22 Moreno 1.39.414

23 Diniz 1.39.765

24 Schiattarella 1.40.665

25 Inoue 1.47.316

26 Montermini nt



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Posted 03 September 2018 - 15:13

1995 ARGENTINA SECOND ACCLIMATISATION SESSION THURSDAY 13.30pm to 14.30pm

 

1st  Hakkinen         1'59.458"

2nd  Frentzen         1'59.532"

3rd  Alesi                2'01.605"

4th  Katayama        2'01'832"

5th  Barrichello       2'04.130"

6th  Salo                 2'05.687"

7th  Badoer             2'05.880"

8th  Wendlinger      2'06.105"

9th  Moreno            2'07.970"

10th  Schumacher  2'08.417"

11th  Diniz              2'17.514"

12th  Martini           2'20.092"

13th  Herbert          2'27.023"

14th  Gachot          2'35.521"

15th  Montermini   4'03.891"

16th  Berger        12'19.533"

17th  Blundell      15'20.323"

18th  Panis          45'21.788"

 

Source:  TAG-Heuer Official timing sheet



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Posted 01 October 2018 - 22:15

After some break, I have found the complete lap times for the 1981 Brazilian Grand Prix Acclimatisation Session and even though some sources have labelled this to being held in Thursday, it actually was being held unless I'm not very badly mistaken, in Wednesday rather than Thursday even though the time setting had some strong-arm-words-wrestling with FISA and FOCA with the organizers of the event.

 

I think that this session was only one to be held.

 

It was 2 hour long session and it was supposed to be held in 14-16 o' clock, but it was postponed either to be concluded in 17.30 o' clock or approximately just begin in 17.30 o' clock and then to be concluded in the late evenings in 19.30 o' clock after the shenaningans between the organizers, FISA, FOCA and also by then with Ricardo Londono-Bridge had been temporarily dealed with likely temporarily mutual agreement of things.

 

Even though right after this session now the late Senor Londono-Bridge actually never drive in any Grand Prix car again.

 

Also one who almost never drive in any Grand Prix again right after this session (At least in anger, even though he did later drive on exhibitions and also when his legs really were cured and mend with enough to him to had been reconsidered to return for one final time, I think it was in 1982 and he was enlisted to drive Ligier as a very last-ditch effort when one certain US driver did have some vocal displeasure with Monsieur Ligier with that one point of the season.) was Jean-Pierre Jabouille who had too bad leg pains and had to give up trying to drive the whole weekend and that was when Jean-Pierre Jarier was on hand to drive even though he maybe didn't have any time in first Official Practice session because of the normal paperwork issues when replacing another driver even back then.

 

So, here are the times:

 

1981

 

Mar 25, Jacarepagua

 

1 Reutemann 1'37.486

 

2 Prost 1'38.421

 

3 Rebaque 1'38.735

 

4 Patrese 1'38.961

 

5 de Angelis 1'39.717

 

6 Andretti 1'39.823

 

7 Laffite 1'39.851

 

8 Mansell 1'40.088

 

9 Cheever 1'40.307

 

10 Jarier 1'40.406

 

11 Lammers 1'40.671

 

12 Pironi 1'40.709

 

13 de Cesaris 1'41.089

 

14 Rosberg 1'41.207

 

15 Tambay 1'41.252

 

16 Watson 1'41.459

 

17 Jones 1'41.464

 

18 Villeneuve 1'41.464 (Jones and Villeneuve had a tie with the best time, but Jones had a better second fastest lap than Villeneuve.)

 

19 Londono-Bridge 1'41.776

 

20 Piquet 1'42.012

 

21 Arnoux 1'42.087

 

22 Daly 1'42.324

 

23 Giacomelli 1'42.364

 

24 Serra 1'42.453

 

25 Angel Guerra 1'42.847

 

26 Jabouille 1'43.044

 

27 Stohr 1'43.118

 

28 Gabbiani 1'43.645

 

29 Zunino 1'44.554

 

30 Salazar 1'48.774



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Posted 01 October 2018 - 23:00

After quite a long search, I have also found 1979 Brazilian Grand Prix Thursday Practice Session times.

 

Even though sometimes it was said that it was requested to be held a day earlier, in Wednesday or day later, very early on the Friday morning, but it was postponed to be held firmly on Thursday because of the adamant FISA and FOCA.

 

All drivers didn't drive in this session and I will mention them when their time is on due.

 

However here are the times:

 

1979

 

Grande Premio do Brasil Treino Extra-Oficial

 

Feb 1, Interlagos

 

1 Reutemann 2'25''490

 

2 Laffite 2'25''900

 

3 Andretti 2'26 exact

 

4 Depailler 2'26''250

 

5 Villeneuve 2'27''560

 

6 Pironi 2'28''250

 

7 Jabouille 2'29''310

 

8 Regazzoni 2'29''370

 

9 Patrese 2'29''780

 

10 Jones 2'30''020

 

11 Tambay 2'30''120

 

12 Fittipaldi 2'30''350 (This time lap was done with car model of F5-A and it was older model since Fittipaldi also had a F6 which of course was a new model of the team. Fittipaldi did drove a time of 2'30''570 with F6.)

 

13 Mass 2'30''420

 

14 Lauda 2'30''570

 

15 Watson 2'31''120

 

16 Scheckter 2'31''280

 

17 de Angelis 2'31''850

 

18 Arnoux 2'32''720

 

19 Stuck 2'33''430

 

20 Jarier 2'34''330

 

21 Lammers 2'35''130

 

22 Daly 2'37''050

 

23 Merzario 2'40''420

 

24 Piquet 2'43''570

 

25 Hunt nt (Hunt maybe did try the car at least once on track, but it could have that he didn't even that. If he did so or even more try-out laps, then they were not registered if he just drove back to the pits. Maybe he didn't drive at all in this session.)

 

26 Rebaque nt


Edited by Blue6ix, 01 October 2018 - 23:01.


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Posted 01 October 2018 - 23:50

Also after long search, I managed to find out 1978 Brazilian Grand Prix Thursday Practice Session times as well.

 

One Unofficial Session were being held at 10-12 o' clock and it was 2 hours long session.

 

Here are the times for that session:

 

1978

 

Grande Premio do Brasil Quinta-feira Treino Extra-Oficial

 

Jan 26, Jacarepagua

 

1 Hunt 1'42''560

 

2 Reutemann 1'42'900

 

3 Villeneuve 1'43''330

 

4 Fittipaldi 1'43''440

 

5 Peterson 1'44''180

 

6 Andretti 1'44''270

 

7 Rebaque 1'44''350

 

8 Lauda 1'44''600

 

9 Regazzoni 1'44''790

 

10 Stuck 1'45'110

 

11 Watson 1'45''260

 

12 Patrese 1'45''460

 

13 Tambay 1'45''570

 

14 Depailler 1'45''610

 

15 Scheckter 1'45''780

 

16 Mass 1'46''040

 

17 Jarier 1'46''260

 

18 Leoni 1'46''340

 

19 Cheever 1'46''630

 

20 Laffite 1'46''750

 

21 Brambilla 1'46''920

 

22 Jones 1'46''980

 

23 Lunger 1'47''550

 

24 Merzario 1'48''080

 

25 Pironi 1'48''150

 

26 Ongais 1'48''610

 

27 Keegan 2'12''440

 

28 Galica nt



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:35

After quite a long search, I have also found 1979 Brazilian Grand Prix Thursday Practice Session times.

 

Even though sometimes it was said that it was requested to be held a day earlier, in Wednesday or day later, very early on the Friday morning, but it was postponed to be held firmly on Thursday because of the adamant FISA and FOCA.

 

All drivers didn't drive in this session and I will mention them when their time is on due.

 

However here are the times:

 

1979

 

Grande Premio do Brasil Treino Extra-Oficial

 

Feb 1, Interlagos

 

1 Reutemann 2'25''490

 

2 Laffite 2'25''900

 

3 Andretti 2'26 exact

 

4 Depailler 2'26''250

 

5 Villeneuve 2'27''560

 

6 Pironi 2'28''250

 

7 Jabouille 2'29''310

 

8 Regazzoni 2'29''370

 

9 Patrese 2'29''780

 

10 Jones 2'30''020

 

11 Tambay 2'30''120

 

12 Fittipaldi 2'30''350 (This time lap was done with car model of F5-A and it was older model since Fittipaldi also had a F6 which of course was a new model of the team. Fittipaldi did drove a time of 2'30''570 with F6.)

 

13 Mass 2'30''420

 

14 Lauda 2'30''570

 

15 Watson 2'31''120

 

16 Scheckter 2'31''280

 

17 de Angelis 2'31''850

 

18 Arnoux 2'32''720

 

19 Stuck 2'33''430

 

20 Jarier 2'34''330

 

21 Lammers 2'35''130

 

22 Daly 2'37''050

 

23 Merzario 2'40''420

 

24 Piquet 2'43''570

 

25 Hunt nt (Hunt maybe did try the car at least once on track, but it could have that he didn't even that. If he did so or even more try-out laps, then they were not registered if he just drove back to the pits. Maybe he didn't drive at all in this session.)

 

26 Rebaque nt

 

To some of us the Acclimatisation time are interesting, as they were not generally shown in reports of Grand Prix's at the time.

However the 1979 Brazilian GP acclimatisation times were published in Grand Prix International magazine and with exception of times for Laffite, Depailler, Jones, Arnoux, Daly,  all drivers have slightly different times., For example:  Reutemann (2'25.49") GPI 2'25.46", Andretti (2'26.00") 2'26.03" GPI, Piquet (2'43.57") GPI 2'43.47"

Hopefully, the revised times shown above taken from the official published times 



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 13:45

After some break, I have found the complete lap times for the 1981 Brazilian Grand Prix Acclimatisation Session and even though some sources have labelled this to being held in Thursday, it actually was being held unless I'm not very badly mistaken, in Wednesday rather than Thursday even though the time setting had some strong-arm-words-wrestling with FISA and FOCA with the organizers of the event.

 

I think that this session was only one to be held.

 

It was 2 hour long session and it was supposed to be held in 14-16 o' clock, but it was postponed either to be concluded in 17.30 o' clock or approximately just begin in 17.30 o' clock and then to be concluded in the late evenings in 19.30 o' clock after the shenaningans between the organizers, FISA, FOCA and also by then with Ricardo Londono-Bridge had been temporarily dealed with likely temporarily mutual agreement of things.

 

Even though right after this session now the late Senor Londono-Bridge actually never drive in any Grand Prix car again.

 

Also one who almost never drive in any Grand Prix again right after this session (At least in anger, even though he did later drive on exhibitions and also when his legs really were cured and mend with enough to him to had been reconsidered to return for one final time, I think it was in 1982 and he was enlisted to drive Ligier as a very last-ditch effort when one certain US driver did have some vocal displeasure with Monsieur Ligier with that one point of the season.) was Jean-Pierre Jabouille who had too bad leg pains and had to give up trying to drive the whole weekend and that was when Jean-Pierre Jarier was on hand to drive even though he maybe didn't have any time in first Official Practice session because of the normal paperwork issues when replacing another driver even back then.

 

So, here are the times:

 

1981

 

Mar 25, Jacarepagua

 

1 Reutemann 1'37.486

 

2 Prost 1'38.421

 

3 Rebaque 1'38.735

 

4 Patrese 1'38.961

 

5 de Angelis 1'39.717

 

6 Andretti 1'39.823

 

7 Laffite 1'39.851

 

8 Mansell 1'40.088

 

9 Cheever 1'40.307

 

10 Jarier 1'40.406

 

11 Lammers 1'40.671

 

12 Pironi 1'40.709

 

13 de Cesaris 1'41.089

 

14 Rosberg 1'41.207

 

15 Tambay 1'41.252

 

16 Watson 1'41.459

 

17 Jones 1'41.464

 

18 Villeneuve 1'41.464 (Jones and Villeneuve had a tie with the best time, but Jones had a better second fastest lap than Villeneuve.)

 

19 Londono-Bridge 1'41.776

 

20 Piquet 1'42.012

 

21 Arnoux 1'42.087

 

22 Daly 1'42.324

 

23 Giacomelli 1'42.364

 

24 Serra 1'42.453

 

25 Angel Guerra 1'42.847

 

26 Jabouille 1'43.044

 

27 Stohr 1'43.118

 

28 Gabbiani 1'43.645

 

29 Zunino 1'44.554

 

30 Salazar 1'48.774

This Acclimatisation session is of interest as it has Riccardo Londono-Bridge taking part in his only Grand Prix appearance.

I got in touch with Charlie Whiting in 2014, to ask if he could obtain the acclimatisation times and he sent me these after he had approached the promoter of the GP, who was in charge in 1981.

The list he sent has a few different times:

N.Mansell 1'40.088" , (list I have 1'40.018") , J.Watson 1'41.459" (list I have 1'41.458") G.Villeneuve 1'41.464" (list I have 1'41.613") Grand Prix International magazine also published times but only to two decimal places, as did MMM Sport, time shown for Villeneuve is 1'41.71", which 'muddies the water somewhat', J-P Jabouille 1'43.044" (list I have 1'43.055").

 

As regard to Riccardo Londono-Bridge time of 1'41.776" (19th fastest) that I think is another story. Autocourse Annual report states "Riccardo Londono-Bridge who drove the Ensign on Wednesday. That proved to be a disastrous affair when, after a few slow laps, the Columbian managed to hit Rosberg's Fittipaldi. To everyone's relief it was discovered that the novice did not have a suitable licence." . Marc Surer look over car and competed in all practice sessions, and came 4th in the GP.



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 09:26

To some of us the Acclimatisation time are interesting, as they were not generally shown in reports of Grand Prix's at the time.

However the 1979 Brazilian GP acclimatisation times were published in Grand Prix International magazine and with exception of times for Laffite, Depailler, Jones, Arnoux, Daly,  all drivers have slightly different times., For example:  Reutemann (2'25.49") GPI 2'25.46", Andretti (2'26.00") 2'26.03" GPI, Piquet (2'43.57") GPI 2'43.47"

Hopefully, the revised times shown above taken from the official published times 

 

About 1979 Brazilian Grand Prix Acclimatisation times:

 

I have taken those previously written times from the following Brazilian magazines:

 

Folha de Sao Paulo

 

Folha de Manha

 

Folha de Noite

 

There were some other magazines too from the another countries, but they didn't show all the times and most of them when they did wrote about the results, they were errorneously staten.


Edited by Blue6ix, 04 October 2018 - 09:27.


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Posted 04 October 2018 - 13:08

About 1979 Brazilian Grand Prix Acclimatisation times:

 

I have taken those previously written times from the following Brazilian magazines:

 

Folha de Sao Paulo

 

Folha de Manha

 

Folha de Noite

 

There were some other magazines too from the another countries, but they didn't show all the times and most of them when they did wrote about the results, they were errorneously staten.

So far you have discovered quite a number of acclimatisation session times that have remained hidden for many year's. Well done



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Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:35

So far you have discovered quite a number of acclimatisation session times that have remained hidden for many year's. Well done

 

Thank You very much!

 

However...

 

What about 1984 Dallas Grand Prix weekend?

 

I have heard two different sessions to have been held on that particular race weekend.

 

Normal (Or at least the most normal session anyway on that weekend and before the track started to break.) Acclimatisation Session

on Thursday and also with so-called Mini-Warm Up Session on Sunday, because with the issues of the track and starting time which was compromised.

 

Mini-Warm Up Session either had 3 or approximately 4 laps (Those 4 laps may or may not have included timeless in-lap and out-lap combined.) which drivers had before going in to the dummy grid as to a rare occasion for to preserve already breaking, patched and battered track. It may also have been an entirely timeless session.

 

Renault drivers Derek Warwick and Patrick Tambay were the fastest drivers either the both of these sessions or only for a one session.

 

I do have some times from that weekend, but I'm not sure about them.

 

As of which session those times can belong to, that is.


Edited by Blue6ix, 07 February 2019 - 10:36.


#46 dgs

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 10:36

Thank You very much!

 

However...

 

What about 1984 Dallas Grand Prix weekend?

 

I have heard two different sessions to have been held on that particular race weekend.

 

Normal (Or at least the most normal session anyway on that weekend and before the track started to break.) Acclimatisation Session

on Thursday and also with so-called Mini-Warm Up Session on Sunday, because with the issues of the track and starting time which was compromised.

 

Mini-Warm Up Session either had 3 or approximately 4 laps (Those 4 laps may or may not have included timeless in-lap and out-lap combined.) which drivers had before going in to the dummy grid as to a rare occasion for to preserve already breaking, patched and battered track. It may also have been an entirely timeless session.

 

Renault drivers Derek Warwick and Patrick Tambay were the fastest drivers either the both of these sessions or only for a one session.

 

I do have some times from that weekend, but I'm not sure about them.

 

As of which session those times can belong to, that is.

An Acclimatisation session was run on Thursday 5th July between 11.30am -12.30pm 

Times:   From Olivetti-Longines timing sheet.

 

D.Warwick           1'38.617"

N.Mansell            1'39.531"

A.Prost                1'40.062"

E.de Angelis        1'40.379"

R.Arnoux             1'40.437"

T.Fabi                   1'40.877"

N.Piquet               1'41.000"

A.de Cesaris        1'41.250"

T.Boutsen             1'41.323"

M.Alboreto           1'41.447"

S.Bellof                1'41.457"

A.Senna               1'41.614"

N.Lauda               1'41.804"

E.Cheever            1'41.885"

M.Brundle             1'41.977"

J.Laffite                 1'42.381"

M.Winkelhock       1'42.866"

K.Rosberg            1'42.884"

F.Hesnault            1'42.978"

J.Cecotto              1'43.181"

H.Rothengatter     1'44.424"

P.Tambay              1'44.681"

P.Ghinzani            1'44.782"

R.Patrese             1'45.131"

J.Palmer               1'45.230"

P.Alliot                  1'45.688"

M.Surer                1'47.522"

 

Aouocourse Annual in text reads on Warm up session " The warm-up had been postponed for two  hours and then cancelled altogether. Niki Lauda completed a a tour of inspection with Derek Ongaro and then reported to Race Control. Lauda wanted ten exploratory laps before making a decision. With eleven o'clock looming that news was not well received by Bernie Ecclestone. No, the final arrangement would be three warm-up laps followed immediately by the countdown to the start."

I do not know if the three laps were timed.



#47 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:52

The drivers now get weeks of acclimatisation on the simulators, no need to even see the circuit.

Not on new circuits. In recent years  they really have needed them however. 

On current circuits there is a huge amount of info. But some of the circuits that have came and gone were brand new with little or no info apart from lengths and pictures.



#48 Michael Ferner

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 11:40

An Acclimatisation session was run on Thursday 5th July between 11.30am -12.30pm 
Times:   From Olivetti-Longines timing sheet.
 
(...)
T.Fabi                   1'40.877"
(...)


That's interesting - does the official timing sheet also say Teo Fabi? All the US newspapers mentioned Teo, but I took it to be an understandable mistake.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 16:14

That's interesting - does the official timing sheet also say Teo Fabi? All the US newspapers mentioned Teo, but I took it to be an understandable mistake.

The Olivetti-Longines timing sheet does say No 2 (Brabham-BMW  BT53  T.Fabi (no first name mentioned) on Acclimatisation sheet for July 5.

For Timing sheets both untimed and timed classification, plus race they all state no 2 (Brabham -BMW BT53) C.Fabi. That would be of course Corrado Fabi.

Of course the name shown for entry No 2 Brabham BT53 on acclimatisation sheet could have course been a mistake on timing sheet.

 

A mystery indeed !!



#50 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 17:52

Teo was racing in the Indycar race at Cleveland that weekend, over 1,100 miles from Dallas. I suppose it’s logistically possible for him to have been in Dallas on the Thursday before going off to Cleveland (as there was only one day of qualifying at Cleveland), but what would have been the point? Unnecessary hassle for Teo, and surely Brabham would have wanted to give Corrado as much time in the car as possible. There’s certainly no mention of Teo in the Autosport report.