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[A3]

Website: http://www.fiaf3europe.com/

 

Youtube channel with all the races:

https://www.youtube....ser/FIAF3EUROPE

 

 

The FIA Formula 3 European Championship is the first junior single-seater series to return to action after the winter break, and does so with a packed grid for the 2014 season. In total, 30 outstanding young drivers and twelve teams will be competing for the coveted FIA Formula 3 European Championship title and will be racing at the highest level. All these young drivers have one clear goal: making it into Formula 1. Talents from 17 countries, including eight rookie drivers, will be competing for valuable championship points during eleven race weekends in 2014. At prestigious Formula 1 tracks and demanding street circuits, 33 races will be held all over Europe at meetings shared with international top-class series.

 

 

Calendar:

April 19/20 Silverstone (GB)

May 3/4 Hockenheim (D)

May 10/11 Pau (F)

May 31/June 1 Hungaroring (H)

June 21/22 Spa-Francorchamps (B)

June 28/29 Norisring (D)

July 12/13 Moscow Raceway (RUS)

August 2/3 Spielberg (A)

August 16/17 Nurburgring (D)

October 11/12 Imola (I)

October 18/19 Hockenheim (D)

Let's discuss this entertaining racing series here. Remember, this is not a Max Verstappen thread.

[Markn93]

Interested to see how Jake Dennis fares. Mclaren Award winner and all that.

[mangeliiito]

Finally Felix got that first win of the season today. This guy is definitly one to watch!

[zanquis]

Yes Felix is a good driver and fast... but can someone please explain to me why he is trying to set the record for longest F3 career?

He has been driving F3 since 2010? This is his 5th year in a F3.

He should be moving up to at least GP3 of maybe even WSR3.5 some time ago.

Dunno about Jake Dennis, he had a decent weekend but feel that was more to being consistent and benefitting from at least 3 drivers that normally will be in front of him having a bad weekend. But I give him credit for taking it when he can.  He might just need more time to adjust, that does not mean he is worse.

Edited by zanquis, 12 May 2014 - 07:24.

[Brandz07]

Yes Felix is a good driver and fast... but can someone please explain to me why he is trying to set the record for longest F3 career?

He has been driving F3 since 2010? This is his 5th year in a F3.

He should be moving up to at least GP3 of maybe even WSR3.5 some time ago.

Dunno about Jake Dennis, he had a decent weekend but feel that was more to being consistent and benefitting from at least 3 drivers that normally will be in front of him having a bad weekend. But I give him credit for taking it when he can.  He might just need more time to adjust, that does not mean he is worse.

He has no money, nothing else he can do.

[zanquis]

He should contact Ericcson sponsors, if they can spend that much money on a Swedish kid without any resent decent results then they can surely can get this kid into GP2 to replace Ericsson soon. He only missed the first few races I am sure a spot will open fast..

Edited by zanquis, 12 May 2014 - 08:19.

[rjsports]

If he has no money why does he keeps paying for a F3 seat? Move on and go earn so money in a GT category or something.

 

I'm really impressed by Ocon, he wasn't that good in FR2.0 but now he is mega. It will be a nice battle with Verstappen, Ocon, Auer, Blomqvist and Fuoco although he hasn't performed well this weekend.

[Viryfan]

If he has no money why does he keeps paying for a F3 seat? Move on and go earn so money in a GT category or something.

 

I'm really impressed by Ocon, he wasn't that good in FR2.0 but now he is mega. It will be a nice battle with Verstappen, Ocon, Auer, Blomqvist and Fuoco although he hasn't performed well this weekend.

 

 

It is quite difficult to read performance from Ocon in 2.0.

 

He was the most consistant guy of the field in Eurocup, 0 retirements and worst place was 14th. He was hampered by the lack of pace from ART car in Red Bull Ring and Spa.

 

 

Then back in September last year, Gravity sent him at Imola to test with Prema to compare him with Kirchofer and Ed Jones. He blittzed both of them in his first outing in an f3.

[Brandz07]

If he has no money why does he keeps paying for a F3 seat? Move on and go earn so money in a GT category or something.

 

I'm really impressed by Ocon, he wasn't that good in FR2.0 but now he is mega. It will be a nice battle with Verstappen, Ocon, Auer, Blomqvist and Fuoco although he hasn't performed well this weekend.

He most likely expected to win the championship this year after finishing 2nd last year, if he wins the championship he's more likely to attract sponsors and I'm sure he'd rather stay in single-seaters if there's a chance.

 

He should contact Ericcson sponsors, if they can spend that much money on a Swedish kid without any resent decent results then they can surely can get this kid into GP2 to replace Ericsson soon. He only missed the first few races I am sure a spot will open fast..

Easier said than done, Marcus' sponsors are most likely family or friends. Just because he's Swedish doesn't mean they'll sponsor him.

[zanquis]

Maybe he should try the DTM route. Not easy but not impossible either.

Cause if he keeps this up the FIA should considering hiring him as the F3 driver bench mark.. anybody above Rosenqvist in F3 championship may move on to higher division, everybody below needs to do another year or just quit.

[Starchild]

Ocon was very lucky to not get a penalty for his silly moves where he ruined rosenqvist's race in race 2 and max's in race 3.

I mean, if that was gp3 or gp2 it's 100% he would get penalty for that...

And also it's interesting how his car was not damaged in those contacts, very lucky guy...

[Brandz07]

Ocon was very lucky to not get a penalty for his silly moves where he ruined rosenqvist's race in race 2 and max's in race 3.

I mean, if that was gp3 or gp2 it's 100% he would get penalty for that...

And also it's interesting how his car was not damaged in those contacts, very lucky guy...

His car was damaged, arguably cost him the victory in race 2.

[zanquis]

Well it is hard too judge but some beleive Ocon already had problem/ damage in race 2 before. Rosenqvist.

[A3]

Ocon himself indeed said he already had sustained damage:

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/113923

[Viryfan]

Ocon was very lucky to not get a penalty for his silly moves where he ruined rosenqvist's race in race 2 and max's in race 3.

I mean, if that was gp3 or gp2 it's 100% he would get penalty for that...

And also it's interesting how his car was not damaged in those contacts, very lucky guy...

 

well if we look to the stewarding on this series it is not the worst manouver that we saw this year.

 

 

verstappen has not been punished at hockenheim for ruining latifi race.

 

neither we saw penalty for incidents at silverstone .

 

 

i think that they are giving them a break on these subjects as they unexperienced and there is rarely enough malice on these actions.

[zanquis]

TBH I do think there is a big difference between the incident if the causing driver can just continu (or atleast appears relatively unharmed) or if he is also eliminated.

Like you mentioned, the Verstappen made a mistake in Hockenheim but he eliminated himself also. A double punishment should never be needed, but if you can drive off and your opponent gets eliminated you almost get rewarded and that should be discouraged as early on as possible.

[JeePee]

This weekend they'll be driving the Hungaroring.

 

Live timing now on: http://livetiming.de/timing/FIA

Edited by JeePee, 30 May 2014 - 10:53.

[Viryfan]

pole again for ocon

[JeePee]

Another mechanical problem for Max while in a podium position 

[Viryfan]

Max went off track and did damage his radiators with grass.

 

He had to retire to not blow his engine for qualy 2.

[JeePee]

Where did you get that?

 

[Viryfan]

Where did you get that?

 

 

 

Tv retransmission from motorstv

 

but they are maybe wrong.

 

it is really strange for him to have clutch problem every meeting.

Edited by Viryfan, 31 May 2014 - 10:26.

[zanquis]

Guess he needs to learn maybe more how to handle the mechanics ffrom the car, maybe he is asking too much from certain parts, or his team is less good in setting it up that it takes a heavier load. 

But so far I must say I am impressed with Ocon for being so steadily fast, not having a weak moment so far. Very mature driving from him.

[JeePee]

Guess he needs to learn maybe more how to handle the mechanics ffrom the car, maybe he is asking too much from certain parts, or his team is less good in setting it up that it takes a heavier load. 

 

Max: "The type of clutch is free for the teams to choose, and we're gonna check how to fix this for the next race"

 

He had a broken clutch from lap 2 onwards, but he didn't really loose pace compared to Ocon and Blomqvist, so his setup was pretty good this morning.

Qualy in 25 minutes.

[Viryfan]

Double pole for Ocon.

 

6th straight pole for Esteban.

[billm99uk]

Verstappen seems to have the Webber disease!

[Viryfan]

Ocon is clearing off the field right now.

 

Fuoco is nowhere near the pace of Ocon with the same car.

Edited by Viryfan, 01 June 2014 - 09:17.

[Viryfan]

7th straight Top 2 finish for Ocon.

 

This pace is just unsustainable in terms of results.

Edited by Viryfan, 01 June 2014 - 09:57.

[TecnoRacing]

Any opinions on Michele Beretta and Eurointernational?

Is it the car, or the team that's lacking in performance? (or both)...Just curious, as I'm wondering what to expect when Santino Ferrucci joins the championship next round.

[Lord_Shaitan]

Esteban is a beast! Driving in a different league of his own.

[Prost1997T]

Any opinions on Michele Beretta and Eurointernational?

Is it the car, or the team that's lacking in performance? (or both)...Just curious, as I'm wondering what to expect when Santino Ferrucci joins the championship next round.

 

I'm thinking it's a driver issue, as Tom Blomqvist put up some solid results with them last year: http://en.wikipedia....27_championship

[Brandz07]

Any opinions on Michele Beretta and Eurointernational?

Is it the car, or the team that's lacking in performance? (or both)...Just curious, as I'm wondering what to expect when Santino Ferrucci joins the championship next round.

Agree with Prost1997T, Santino will beat him from the get-go. He looked fantastic in pre-season tests.

[Viryfan]

5th victory for the season of ocon.

 

It starts to get annoying for his team mates.

[Ross Stonefeld]

Agree with Prost1997T, Santino will beat him from the get-go. He looked fantastic in pre-season tests.

 

I'm not expecting much out of Ferrucci. F3 is a big jump from what he was doing before.

[Prost1997T]

I'm not expecting much out of Ferrucci. F3 is a big jump from what he was doing before.

 

Well, in any case, he's only just turned 16. Plenty of time to develop.

[Brandz07]

I'm not expecting much out of Ferrucci. F3 is a big jump from what he was doing before.

I'd give him a race weekend or so, then I think he'll start to come good.

 

Don't get me wrong, he won't be at the front but I think he can handle that jump; especially with the added track time from running in German F3 too.

Edited by Brandz07, 02 June 2014 - 11:12.

[Prost1997T]

Esteban Ocon and Gustavo Menezes (Star Mazda mid-packer turned German F3 race winner) lead the first two qualification sessions at Spa. Verstappen continues to show front-running pace. Ocon has the pole for the third race as well.

Edited by Prost1997T, 20 June 2014 - 17:38.

[Viryfan]

Ocon is still right in the front consistantly.

[Prost1997T]

Ocon is still right in the front consistantly.

 

Wouldn't be a surprise if he wins the title several races early, and gets double duty in FR3.5 this season (at the expense of Vaxiviere).

Edited by Prost1997T, 20 June 2014 - 17:53.

[BRG]

Ocon is still right in the front consistantly.

But he isn't the Chosen One  .

[Viryfan]

But he isn't the Chosen One  .

 

who is the chosen one?

[Prost1997T]

Ocon involved in a multi-car crash, Verstappen wins race 1.

[Beamer]

Ocon involved in a multi-car crash, Verstappen wins race 1.

 

And race 2! Boh races exciting till the end. Good job on both Verstppen and Ocon. Too bad het got hit in the first race.

[Viryfan]

Yes Ocon and Verstappen are real stars of this year.

 

Ocon could go away with 109 points over Blomqvist.

 

This thing could be pretty much done by this week-end.

[Prost1997T]

Good race for Menezes (3rd) and Calderon (5th) too.

[billm99uk]

You've gotta love Spa. Even F3 races races there are exciting!

 

Verstappen has certainly got the speed, but I think that chop on Auer in the first race was a bit much myself. Showed Ocon a clean pair of heels in the second though. And who lit a fire under Menezes all of a sudden? Even Calderon looked like she knew what she was doing today, putting in a few good passes and fifth place (her best ever.

[Viryfan]

You've gotta love Spa. Even F3 races races there are exciting!

 

Verstappen has certainly got the speed, but I think that chop on Auer in the first race was a bit much myself. Showed Ocon a clean pair of heels in the second though. And who lit a fire under Menezes all of a sudden? Even Calderon looked like she knew what she was doing today, putting in a few good passes and fifth place (her best ever.

 

Van Amersfoort car were very very good on this track and low downforce .

 

So Ocon in Race 2 was the only one to follow these cars at Spa.

 

Then again it is not up to Ocon to take risks now.

 

Clear pair of heels is only 8 tenths of a second in the whole race. Constant gap.

 

It is not the way like Ocon blitzed the field in Hungary.

Edited by Viryfan, 21 June 2014 - 21:07.

[balage06]

What a race!   Great battle between Ocon and Verstappen.

[JeePee]

Holy **** Max!! What a weekend. Three out of three. Gave Ocon an overtake lesson. Superb to watch 

[Requiem84]

Great race again at Spa. Max was outstanding, especially at the start and L2 or L3, when he overtook Bryant-Meisner and Ocon both in one move on the outside. That was superb to watch.

 

Max had the speed in S2, but Ocon could always stay in touch in the slipstream in S1 and S3. At one point he moved ahead on the straight, but Max repassed him straightaway.

 

One dirty move from Ocon when he tried to wheelbang Max at the end of the Kemmel straight, for which he also got a warning.

 

Also nice racing down the field. Loved it.