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[Disgrace]

Part I. Part II. Part III. Continue the depression discussion here.

 

Latest news: Kimi Raikkonen says set-up problems are back on his Ferrari F1 car.

[camberley]

this is OT but FYI on this Ferrari event in Los Angeles this Sunday

 

The Italian automaker has announced that it will commemorate its 60th anniversary in the U.S. with a special event called “Race Through the Decades: 1954-2014,” which will be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for fans, collectors and owners to admire one of the finest collections of classic and racing Ferraris ever assembled. The event will be hosted on Rodeo Drive by Ferrari Chairman Luca Cordero di Montezemolo and will be free to the public.

 

http://www.autoguide...ce-decades.html

 

http://auto.ferrari....-years-ferrari/

 

Come join Ferrari North America as we celebrate our sixtieth year in the United States.

On Sunday, October 12^th from 10:00 AM until 5:00 PM we are planning our national 60^th Anniversary celebration - “60 Fabulous Ferraris on Rodeo Drive”  - a truly memorable day to appeal to our most endearing fans and top clients from North America and abroad.

Activities will include:

• A public display of 60 of the most storied and spectacular Ferraris ever assembled
• An unprecedented gathering of Ferrari Club of America cars into Beverly Hills that morning
• An arrival parade of spectacular Ferraris, led by our Chairman, Luca di Montezemolo
• World premiere of a new Ferrari vehicle
• First-ever award presented by the City of Beverly Hills
• Unique experiences including a 360 virtual tour of Museo Ferrari, Tailor Made village comprised of our global partners, etc.

Edited by camberley, 08 October 2014 - 18:48.

[shonguiz]

http://m.youtube.com...eature=youtu.be

 

Italian is so badass.

[dreamer]

When was the last year Ferrari didn't have a win?

[CrucialXtreme]

When was the last year Ferrari didn't have a win?

1993

[dreamer]

1993

 

Thanks   I had the impression that it was 1992 but I was too lazy to search 

[CrucialXtreme]

Thanks   I had the impression that it was 1992 but I was too lazy to search 

The team was winless in 1992 also.

[Richard T]

When was the last year Ferrari didn't have a win?

 

 

1993

 

 

Thanks   I had the impression that it was 1992 but I was too lazy to search 

 

 

The team was winless in 1992 also.

 

 

[ConsiderAndGo]

I have a feeling this topic will be rather quiet for the rest of the season...

[camberley]

I have a feeling this topic will be rather quiet for the rest of the season...

 

 

its obvious no attempt is being made to improve the F14T. What an utter failure

 

The only thing we need (can) to do is keep calm and hope for next year ;)

Edited by camberley, 09 October 2014 - 16:49.

[GVera]

I wonder what would people have written in this forum had it existed in 1980:

 

1980 Constructors championship.

 

1  Williams/Ford  120

2  Ligier/Ford     66

3  Brabham/Ford    55

4  Renault         38

5  Lotus/Ford      14

6  Tyrrell/Ford    12

7  Arrows/Ford     11

8  Fittipaldi/Ford 11

9  McLaren/Ford    11

10 Ferrari         8

11 Alfa Romeo      4

 

 

[engineblock1]

 

I wonder what would people have written in this forum had it existed in 1980:

 

1980 Constructors championship.

 

1  Williams/Ford  120

2  Ligier/Ford     66

3  Brabham/Ford    55

4  Renault         38

5  Lotus/Ford      14

6  Tyrrell/Ford    12

7  Arrows/Ford     11

8  Fittipaldi/Ford 11

9  McLaren/Ford    11

10 Ferrari         8

11 Alfa Romeo      4

 

 

8 teams using Ford engines?

[Nonesuch]

8 teams using Ford engines?

 

The good old (iterations of the) DFV.

Edited by Nonesuch, 09 October 2014 - 18:54.

[JeePee]

Ferrari looks absolutely horrible here. No balance for both drivers.

[medeni73]

End of the season cant come soon enough

[Sabre1977]

 

I wonder what would people have written in this forum had it existed in 1980:

 

1980 Constructors championship.

 

1  Williams/Ford  120

2  Ligier/Ford     66

3  Brabham/Ford    55

4  Renault         38

5  Lotus/Ford      14

6  Tyrrell/Ford    12

7  Arrows/Ford     11

8  Fittipaldi/Ford 11

9  McLaren/Ford    11

10 Ferrari         8

11 Alfa Romeo      4

 

 

It hurts less when you won the previous championship.

 

But after 6 years in a row not winning....

[kosmos]

Looks like another race to forget.

[blacky]

Alonso furious, trying a thousand of laps on the mediums to find a balance, nowhere with the softs when we think about that the F14T is much lighter like every friday than the other cars. A mix of oversteering and understeering, lack of grip, this will be a 1,5-2 sec gap in Q3, the question is: both drivers in Q3? Don't think so. On sky germany they also told that the longrun of Kimi was way too slow. Forget this weekend.

[topical]

every time I think Alonso is making a mistake by leaving Ferrari a race weekend comes around to explain why it all make sense...

[dreamer]

every time I think Alonso is making a mistake by leaving Ferrari a race weekend comes around to explain why it all make sense...

 

You have a point!

[Scuferrari]

A competitive Ferrari ( like in Singapore ) is able to match the best placed Mercedes driver on Friday. Able to go fastest. That's when Ferrari is the 2nd best or joint 2nd fastest team of the weekend.

When we split the Mercedes or end in P3 clearly ahead of Red Bull and Williams, we're 3rd fastest at best, but able to fight it out with those 2 teams on Sunday.

If we are a second off Mercedes on Friday ( and not clearly ahead of McLaren, Williams etc) then we are in trouble.

If there are no dramatic setup improvements we'll end up fighting with McLaren, probably a fraction slower. Kimi will be fighting with Toro Rosso and Force India.

 

When I say " we" or "Ferrari" I usually mean Alonso ( in 85% of the races) because Kimi is rarely close to that performance level.

[CrucialXtreme]

I haven't seen any updates in FP1 or FP2 but the team is still working on data collection I'm assuming for 2015. Everyone knows it's needed.

 

 

Kimii with pitot tubes on both RWEP's in free practice

 

 

Pitot tube on the neutral section of the FW

[grunge]

Its not going to be a decent weekend..We're 4th fastest again, behind Williams and RB.

 

  On a side note,im beginning to like Mattiaci more and more as time goes by..Seems like a strongly determined ,no nonsense guy...On the surface atleast,appears to be a far cry from the personality of SD....... His body language and latest excerpts from the Friday PC were interesting.

 

         

      Q: (Vladimir Rogovets - Sb Belarus Segondnya) My question to all participants: I remember how much you were asked about participation in the Grand Prix of Russia. Today you are here, I think it’s very good for Formula One but you can see the situation is completely different than what you told some of my colleagues. What do you think: why would the mass media make a very negative image of Russia? Who and why is used? 

MM: It’s a question to the wrong audience. We are team principals, not media moguls so what this theme that the press or someone else takes, to be honest, is not my job or our job to reply. I think we’re here at a very difficult moment, trying to put in place a decent race. That’s it. About the media spin, I couldn’t care less.

 

 Q: Regarding your driver line-up? 

MM: I don’t have any update, any news, any announcement to be made.

Q: Any knowledge of when we might hear? 
MM: I don’t have any news, any update, any announcement to be made.

[Raikkonen94]

Its not going to be a decent weekend..We're 4th fastest again, behind Williams and RB.

 

  On a side note,im beginning to like Mattiaci more and more as time goes by..Seems like a strongly determined ,no nonsense guy...On the surface atleast,appears to be a far cry from the personality of SD....... His body language and latest excerpts from the Friday PC were interesting.

 

         

      Q: (Vladimir Rogovets - Sb Belarus Segondnya) My question to all participants: I remember how much you were asked about participation in the Grand Prix of Russia. Today you are here, I think it’s very good for Formula One but you can see the situation is completely different than what you told some of my colleagues. What do you think: why would the mass media make a very negative image of Russia? Who and why is used? 

MM: It’s a question to the wrong audience. We are team principals, not media moguls so what this theme that the press or someone else takes, to be honest, is not my job or our job to reply. I think we’re here at a very difficult moment, trying to put in place a decent race. That’s it. About the media spin, I couldn’t care less.

 

I think Marco and Kimi will get along just fine

[Miggeex]

Can you imagine the start on this track with Ferrari? I know the power differences aren't that big anymore but I'm kind of worried for the long run to T1. 

[Vesuvius]

Can you imagine the start on this track with Ferrari? I know the power differences aren't that big anymore but I'm kind of worried for the long run to T1.

Both Ferraris are super good on starts so I wouldn't be too worried about that.

[SCUDmissile]

I think McLaren are faster also

 

but love those Kimi-esque comments from MM 

[Massa]

4 tenths slower than Toro Rosso. What a shitty ERS. 6th best team today. What a shame

[Ferrari2183]

Scandalous.

[kosmos]

Lucky with Massa out and Magnussen penalty, the car is a red tractor.

[kimister]

That was terrible to watch 

[joonz]

Could we please have wrcva's avatar in the opening post? 

[wrcva]

Could we please have wrcva's avatar in the opening post? 

 

indeed, help yourselves (link) 

[aray]

another 9-10 finish if Alonso's car finish the race without problem.

[dreamer]

Russian gp preview

[CrucialXtreme]

As in previous years, the F14T is very good/strong at starts. Let's hope in 2015 Ferrari fans have more to be proud of than it's ability to start fast.

[discover23]

Mclaren was quicker than us today. Button has gone down to 1:42s..and we cannot match it.

No hope..

On top of that the time lost on that poor pit stop by Alonso gave the position away to MAG.

[dreamer]

Mclaren was quicker than us today. Button has gone down to 1:42s..and we cannot match it.

 

 

Kimi did some 1:42s during the second part of the race

 

and Alonso's last lap was in 1:42s

Edited by dreamer, 12 October 2014 - 12:39.

[adumbo]

sigh... well that all folks.

[aray]

i believe had that pitstop gone right,Alonso would have kept Mag behind...but once he lost that place he even didn't bother to catch..

[kosmos]

Another bad race in general, big suprise if McLaren don't finish ahead of Ferrari in the WCC.

[dreamer]

Another bad race in general, big suprise if McLaren don't finish ahead of Ferrari in the WCC.

 

What's the points difference?

[discover23]

Kimi did some 1:42s during the second part of the race

and Alonso's last lap was in 1:42s

Alonso was saving fuel. Kimi did upper 1.42 for like two laps .. Button was low 1.42 more consistently.

[CrucialXtreme]

What's the points difference?

 

Ferrari is 45 points ahead of McLaren and 28 points behind Williams.

[dreamer]

Alonso was saving fuel. Kimi did upper 1.42 for like two laps .. Button was low 1.42 more consistently.

 

Most of them were saving fuel. My post was to show that 1:42s was in the car. Nothing to do with Alonso vs Kimi

[dreamer]

Ferrari is 45 points ahead of McLaren and 28 points behind Williams.

 

I see. Let's hope for a stronger finish of the season 

[discover23]

Most of them were saving fuel. My post was to show that 1:42s was in the car. Nothing to do with Alonso vs Kimi

And i was comparing kimi and Alonso to button on my post.

Edited by discover23, 12 October 2014 - 13:05.

[dreamer]

And i was comparing kimi and Alonso to button on my post.

 

Good. Yes Mclaren was faster in this race. Not much but still faster.
If they didn't have to save fuel I think they would be in 1:42s more often (same as Button). But yes, it would be difficult for them to challenge him.

 

What was Magnussen's pace?

Edited by dreamer, 12 October 2014 - 13:14.

[NoSanityClause]

At this point, if cars #7 and #14 were to be dragged to hell and be forever burnt by the unperishable fire, it would be an improvement.

[dreamer]

At this point, if cars #7 and #14 were to be dragged to hell and be forever burnt by the unperishable fire, it would be an improvement.