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[SophieB]

This thread has been taking a bit of a predictable turn so if it stops being light hearted and carries on being 'Gasp! You said something bad about my driver so now i'm going to say something bad about YOUR driver' then it will be closed.

[aramos]

 & For the record, I loved seeing those two race each other. Because when they did, they raced hard. But Vettel being constantly played out as the bad guy was bs.

Whenever there was actual contact it was always Vettel's fault though, thats why he tends to get played as the bad guy.

[aramos]

here you go, 2009 turkey, Vettel ordered to stay behind Webber:

 

Q. Mark, similarly how were the tyres at the end as you were being gained on by Sebastian?

MW: We knew that there was no point of us two smashing into each other with five laps to go, so we just brought the cars home really. Jenson was down the road, so it was a stalemate.

 

2011 silverstone, Webber ordered to stay behind Vettel:

 

Q. (Adam Hay-Nicholls – Metro) Mark, Christian Horner has said that you should be fine with the team orders at the end and if you and Seb had raced until the end you would both have ended up in the fence. Do you agree with that? Was it the right call? Does this mean realistically that you are out of this championship?

MW: I am not fine with it. No. That's the answer to that. If Fernando retires on the last lap we are battling for the victory so I was fine until the end. Of course I ignored the team as I want to try and get another place. Seb was doing his best and I was doing my best. I don't want to crash with anyone, but that was it.

 

 

(extra joke, compare the parts in italics )

 

and add his post race show in malaysia '13, and compare it with his words from silverstone '11, and after that say these words: "Webber was an innocent victim in malaysia '13" with a straight face. I'll buy you a beer if you succeed! 

 

The difference isn't in the actions, it was what was agreed to prior to the race.

 

If you don't agree to team orders, but team orders are used then you're right to feel aggrieved.

 

If you agree to team orders, but then ignore them yourself, then you come across as an ass. 

[Nemo1965]

Not F1 really, but this is just too good not to post;

 

 

You know, I think this is typical of Foyt. He is a giant in racing but a dwarf in behaviour, IMHO. I always disliked the combination of his macho talk ('If Indy is too fast for the Europeans, why don't they pussyfoot back to Europe?') and his hissy-fits when things did not go his way.

 

By the way: he slaps and pushes Arie from the back. If you're macho, you stare someone straight in the face and then hit him.

[anneomoly]

The difference isn't in the actions, it was what was agreed to prior to the race.

 

If you don't agree to team orders, but team orders are used then you're right to feel aggrieved.

 

If you agree to team orders, but then ignore them yourself, then you come across as an ass. 

 

It... really isn't? Red Bull always had the policy of position after last pit stop being the finishing order when the two cars were together. Which is why there's numerous examples of Webber or Vettel quietly following the other one home without a murmur. And examples of the driver in second disobeying team orders and trying to get past to the flag, like Silverstone (where Webber failed) and Malaysia (where Vettel succeeded). I don't think Red Bull strategy was bad enough that they had to think those kind of things through on the fly, but ymmv of course.

 

 

Can't believe no one's mentioned Schumacher trying to punch Coulthard, though

 

[robefc]

Quick Lewis summary

- Liegate 2009 - bad (although I believe he was put in a very difficult position by Ryan)
- Tweeting telemetry - bad
- Hoongate - more silly and unfortunate given the focus on hooning in Oz at the time.
- Tweeting about button unfollowing him - hilariously immature and even funnier as he was wrong
- Monaco rant - cringeworthy
- Blowing alonso away interview - that phrase can also mean 'I astonished him' and that is how I believe he meant it. Bit boastful but really not a big deal.
- Champagne thing - do me a favour, pathetic inclusion (by 2 posters!)

The Webber / Vettel discussion is interesting. I completely agree that Mark was a hypocrite but it's difficult to know why he won the pr battle from such an early stage. He comes across as a really good guy but then so does Vettel and it started before Vettel's fall in popularity due to his dominance.

Also interesting how times have changed, can you imagine the reaction if Lewis or Alonso punched a Marshall?!?! Obviously if it was Kimi it would be cooool.

[anneomoly]

Quick Lewis summary

- Liegate 2009 - bad (although I believe he was put in a very difficult position by Ryan)
- Tweeting telemetry - bad
- Hoongate - more silly and unfortunate given the focus on hooning in Oz at the time.
- Tweeting about button unfollowing him - hilariously immature and even funnier as he was wrong
- Monaco rant - cringeworthy
- Blowing alonso away interview - that phrase can also mean 'I astonished him' and that is how I believe he meant it. Bit boastful but really not a big deal.
- Champagne thing - do me a favour, pathetic inclusion (by 2 posters!)

The Webber / Vettel discussion is interesting. I completely agree that Mark was a hypocrite but it's difficult to know why he won the pr battle from such an early stage. He comes across as a really good guy but then so does Vettel and it started before Vettel's fall in popularity due to his dominance.

Also interesting how times have changed, can you imagine the reaction if Lewis or Alonso punched a Marshall?!?! Obviously if it was Kimi it would be cooool.

 

Definitely cool

 

 

 

As for the Webber/Vettel, well, no one likes a winner. No one likes a young winner. No one liked Alonso when he won young and we all jumped on Hamilton when he was being a prat. The idea that these kids get handed the keys to an F1 car at the age of 12 and are basically WDC in waiting is like red rags to a bull. And given we're not very good at absorping the complexities of life, and Vettel has the heinous tenacity to be both a) young b) funded by Red Bull from a young age and c) German, then when we demanded a 'good guy' and a 'bad guy' in the breakdown of RBR driver relations the media decided that the hard done to Aussie Grit struggled to the top now beaten down by the system was the easier sell. I'd guess. Remember as well that Vettel's was the first Red Bull protegee to get into the Red Bull and do something with it, so him being Marko's special snowflake was an easier sell then.

 

Add into the fact that every article I've seen in the last few years has pointed out that Vettel domination hasn't swept Germany like Schumacher domination, and you get to imply there's something about him even his own people distrust.

[sennafan24]

 

 No one likes a young winner. No one liked Alonso when he won young 

In case I have not already made this clear, I really dislike absolute statements. Especially ones that can be easily dismissed. I really liked Alonso in 2003 when he won his first race, and in 2005 when he won his first WDC. 

 

- Liegate 2009 - bad (although I believe he was put in a very difficult position by Ryan)

I reject the term "liegate"

 

I think it was more "mislead-gate" or "naive-gate". The bolded part should explain why.

[robefc]

Definitely cool
 

Can we add the woman to the list for ignoring her crying child in favour of getting an autograph?!

Does anyone have any tales from further back or were they all really gentleman racers when they raced in black and white?!

[Henri Greuter]

Can we add the woman to the list for ignoring her crying child in favour of getting an autograph?!

Does anyone have any tales from further back or were they all really gentleman racers when they raced in black and white?!

 

 

 

No F1 comment but Indy 1954: A bunch of drivers talking with another and Bill Vukovich walks by and asks them if they are perhaps discussing who will finish second in the upcoming race.

 

 

Henri

[Nemo1965]

No F1 comment but Indy 1954: A bunch of drivers talking with another and Bill Vukovich walks by and asks them if they are perhaps discussing who will finish second in the upcoming race.

 

 

Henri

 

I am sorry, but that is kind of funny. Unless he meant it.

[Atreiu]

Quick Lewis summary
- Liegate 2009 - bad (although I believe he was put in a very difficult position by Ryan)
- Tweeting telemetry - bad
- Hoongate - more silly and unfortunate given the focus on hooning in Oz at the time.
- Tweeting about button unfollowing him - hilariously immature and even funnier as he was wrong
- Monaco rant - cringeworthy
- Blowing alonso away interview - that phrase can also mean 'I astonished him' and that is how I believe he meant it. Bit boastful but really not a big deal.
- Champagne thing - do me a favour, pathetic inclusion (by 2 posters!)
The Webber / Vettel discussion is interesting. I completely agree that Mark was a hypocrite but it's difficult to know why he won the pr battle from such an early stage. He comes across as a really good guy but then so does Vettel and it started before Vettel's fall in popularity due to his dominance.
Also interesting how times have changed, can you imagine the reaction if Lewis or Alonso punched a Marshall?!?! Obviously if it was Kimi it would be cooool.

Because Webber always represented the hard working middle class pilot who finally had a good chance after a long and frustrating career while Vettel was always the chosen one destinied to greatness. And people love underdogs, which is what Webber always was. Plus, Helmut Marko's support of Vettel was quite annoying and reflected on SV as well.

Who punched a marshall?

[anneomoly]

In case I have not already made this clear, I really dislike absolute statements. Especially ones that can be easily dismissed. I really liked Alonso in 2003 when he won his first race, and in 2005 when he won his first WDC. 

 

I reject the term "liegate"

 

I think it was more "mislead-gate" or "naive-gate". The bolded part should explain why.

 

As a general rule, people who appear to achieve young, early and with relatively little effort in relation to their peers are often underappreciated. In relation to sport this pertains to a general (though not absolute) consensus that the achievement is undeserved, and people holding this view are relatively more likely to ascribe negative thoughts and feelings towards the young achiever, and are probably more likely to dislike the individual in question on their personality/actions, judging them more harshly than they would otherwise.

 

Better?

 

If anyone is any doubt, I wasn't seriously suggesting that Fernando Alonso's parents stopped loving him because he was the youngest ever world champion, nor have I asked anyone who's ever watched a race for their specific opinion, but rather referring to a general fan/press consensus as a whole.

 

 

edit: It was James Hunt that punched a marshal.

Edited by anneomoly, 03 May 2015 - 15:18.

[Nonesuch]

I completely agree that Mark was a hypocrite but it's difficult to know why he won the pr battle from such an early stage.

 

Webber isn't German. Better yet, Webber is from the colonies. The obvious preference for Webber in English media was largely absent in Dutch, Belgian and German media outlets.

 

Vettel's reputation also suffered unduly from being closely associated with some highly disagreeable people within the Red Bull team.

 

No one liked Alonso when he won young ...

 

It was probably precisely because Alonso started racing F1 at Minardi and then spent a year testing that a lot of people were actually quite enthusiastic when Alonso (and Renault!) started winning in 2003. If I remember correctly Martin Brundle used to affectionately call him 'little Alonso' during those days. Alonso also broke open the Spanish market for F1, which was quite important as its racing culture had previously been dominated by the likes of the MotoGP.

Edited by Nonesuch, 03 May 2015 - 15:35.

[StraightEdge]

Mimmo Sciaterella giving Simtek last hurrah as this team's final weekend

 

[bub]

Most of this stuff is pretty minor. Shows that the drivers are not so bad for the most part imo.

Edited by bub, 04 May 2015 - 12:36.

[LeClerc]

Ayrton Senna punching Eddie Irvine in the 1993 Suzuka pits was pretty bad.

 

 

I never understood why Irvine didn't woop his arse !

Edited by SophieB, 04 May 2015 - 19:53.

[taran]

Seriously? Yes. It might be "enlightening" for yourself to stop missing my point, and changing the argument!. Again you are arguing against thin air. As I never argued against your claim that a lot of drivers disliked Senna. I accept that.

 

I get you are not the sharpest knife in the draw, but bloody hell, just because my username is "sennafan", it does not mean I think he was beloved by all, and did no wrong. Things are not that black and white. 

 

Your initial point was to blankly state that "no drivers liked Senna", without specifying any context. I corrected you, by stating that Rubens liked him, as he considered him a "friend". You changed the argument by adding he never raced against him. Which was not part of my argument.

 

In short, you made an inaccurate statement, I corrected you. Then you got defensive, brought up my username, assumed I blankly worship Senna and changed the argument.

 

Just accept you were wrong and move on

 

Sorry to be late in responding. Work, sigh....

 

Just what is your point? That there are a few drivers out there that liked Senna (although none that you can apparently prove as even Berger didn't like Senna on track or the fact that he stole his race engineer)? That Barichello liked him?

 

I have stated that Senna was disliked. By most if not all of the drivers that raced him (not the same as being in the same race as Senna). There are numerous quotes to that effect, from practically every front running driver between 1985-1993. Even 1984 if you include Johny Cecotto.

 

If criticising your fav makes me dull in your opinion, feel free. Doesn't make me lose any sleep and says a lot about yourself.....

If you question absolutes in speech because you know of a single exception, life must be difficult for you. Because "Senna was disliked by all other drivers" is far closer to the absolute truth than "Senna was liked by a few drivers".

 

[sennafan24]

Sorry to be late in responding. Work, sigh....

 

Just what is your point? That there are a few drivers out there that liked Senna (although none that you can apparently prove as even Berger didn't like Senna on track or the fact that he stole his race engineer)? That Barichello liked him?

 

I have stated that Senna was disliked. By most if not all of the drivers that raced him (not the same as being in the same race as Senna). There are numerous quotes to that effect, from practically every front running driver between 1985-1993. Even 1984 if you include Johny Cecotto.

 

If criticising your fav makes me dull in your opinion, feel free. Doesn't make me lose any sleep and says a lot about yourself.....

If you question absolutes in speech because you know of a single exception, life must be difficult for you. Because "Senna was disliked by all other drivers" is far closer to the absolute truth than "Senna was liked by a few drivers".

 

Again, you go back to inferring I am defending Senna because he is my favourite. When in this very thread, I have condemned some of his antics.  You see things through black and white lenses. Just because I like Senna, does not mean I am going to attack every criticism of him. Other posters on this board dislike Senna, yet I hold their posts in very high regard (Nemo1965 for example)

 

You do talk in absolutes. Did most drivers take issue with Senna on track at some time or another? I am sure they did. But not everything comes down to "like" and "dislike. The world is not that black and white. Just like my admiration of Senna, is not taken to some god-like level, where I cannot understand why others don't like him.

 

My point was quite clear. You made a definitive statement, and I corrected you. If you would have simply specified that most drivers took issue with him on track, I would not have responded. But you didn't. You did not even specify you meant on track.

 

 And let's not forget that none of the drivers truly liked Senna until he died and became sanctified (excluding Berger who was happy with Senna's crumbs).

 

Nothing else really to say. Oh, and my life is pretty okay 

Edited by sennafan24, 05 May 2015 - 17:57.

[Nemo1965]

Again, you go back to inferring I am defending Senna because he is my favourite. When in this very thread, I have condemned some of his antics.  You see things through black and white lenses. Just because I like Senna, does not mean I am going to attack every criticism of him. Other posters on this board dislike Senna, yet I hold their posts in very high regard (Nemo1965 for example)

 

You do talk in absolutes. Did most drivers take issue with Senna on track at some time or another? I am sure they did. But not everything comes down to "like" and "dislike. The world is not that black and white. Just like my admiration of Senna, is not taken to some god-like level, where I cannot understand why others don't like him.

 

My point was quite clear. You made a definitive statement, and I corrected you. If you would have simply specified that most drivers took issue with him on track, I would not have responded. But you didn't. You did not even specify you meant on track.

 

 

Nothing else really to say. Oh, and my life is pretty okay 

 

For the record: I dislike Pat Symonds, Flavio Briatore, Massa, Maldonado and Nigel Mansell, first and foremost. If they are on the telly, I switch off the volume and take a long bath-room break. I never disliked Senna. I just thought back then he deserved a lot of criticism he got, next to the adoration. And I still think that. But for me, all was forgiven when he said on the warm-up of that fateful Sunday: 'Alain, come back. We all miss you.'

[sennafan24]

For the record: I dislike Pat Symonds, Flavio Briatore, Massa, Maldonado and Nigel Mansell, first and foremost. If they are on the telly, I switch off the volume and take a long bath-room break. I never disliked Senna. I just thought back then he deserved a lot of criticism he got, next to the adoration. And I still think that. But for me, all was forgiven when he said on the warm-up of that fateful Sunday: 'Alain, come back. We all miss you.'

Fair play. Yes, that message was nice. 

 

I don't get how anyone could really dislike Mansell. How can you take him seriously? He is such a comedy character (fantastic driver though)

 

The only thing that narks me about Mansell is that he won't let his grudge against Prost go. In that lovely interview he did with Piquet a few years back, he went out of his way to take pot-shots at Alain. Came across as needless.

[DampMongoose]

I imagine Innes Ireland standing behind Jackie Stewart on the grid doing a chicken impression is considered antics?

[Henri Greuter]

 

Not F1 really, but this is just too good not to post;

 

 

You know, I think this is typical of Foyt. He is a giant in racing but a dwarf in behaviour, IMHO. I always disliked the combination of his macho talk ('If Indy is too fast for the Europeans, why don't they pussyfoot back to Europe?') and his hissy-fits when things did not go his way.

 

By the way: he slaps and pushes Arie from the back. If you're macho, you stare someone straight in the face and then hit him.

 

 

 

Story is that even despite being proven to be not the winner, Foyt kept the trophy of that race and refused to give it back to USAC so it could go to the right winner.

 

Henri

[Atreiu]

Has anyone mentioned Mansell at Estoril 1989? Basically gave Prost the math of Suzuka on a silver plate. The rest...

The worse of Maldonado isn't as low as that.

Edited by Atreiu, 06 May 2015 - 14:40.

[Nemo1965]

Story is that even despite being proven to be not the winner, Foyt kept the trophy of that race and refused to give it back to USAC so it could go to the right winner.

 

Henri

 

Haha. Always nice to see one's prejudices established. Regarding Mansell: probably the only driver that Mario Andretti felt mad enough about to say something negative. And the aforementioned Innes Ireland once said about Mansell: 'A twerp.'

[Henri Greuter]

Haha. Always nice to see one's prejudices established. Regarding Mansell: probably the only driver that Mario Andretti felt mad enough about to say something negative. And the aforementioned Innes Ireland once said about Mansell: 'A twerp.'

 

Got to give the guy credit for it, Mansell created a much bigger hype at Indy in 1993 than his nemesis Piquet managed to do that year when he returned after that horrible accident he had in 1992.

I was there so I know what I talk about.

 

Talking about insults of drivers to another, reportedly it was Piquet who welcomed Mansell at the Speedway with asking if he had already arranged a single bed hospital room.

Very rude given the fact that Mansell had crased in practise in the previous event that year at the Oval of Phoenix and was still recovering of that. In fact, his rookietest was a bit dealyed because of needing some time longer to heal.

Piquet was a nasty, disgusting person outside the car to me. But, unlike Senna, he was at least fair at the track and in battles and never lowered himself  to the low levels of conduct Senna considered justified to avoid defeat at all costs or get things his way.

 

Henri

[chunder27]

I never had a problem with Piquet, bit of a hero of mine as a kid, and he also knoew how to wind Mansell up which lets face it is probably one of the easiest things to do in F1!

 

He did not react well to being beaten by him, but in all honesty their relationship was a draw, Mansell was quicker in 86, Piquet got some back in 87. But on track Piquest was old school fair, honest and totally gentlemanly, as Mansell was actually. The person who wasnt and ushered in this modern thing was Senna.

 

The things Mansell does that annoy people are his fabrication of events, his continuous lying in interviews and making up stuff that simply does not need to be done.  The bloke was one of the quickest in an era that contained arguably the best drivers of recent times, and he stll finds the need to do this stupid working class hero rubbish.

 

You live in a tax haven, earn millions, only do things if they benefit you. He had the country in his pocket, he knew it, hence BTCC and WEC drives. His lads were nothing special in a car despite getting all the breaks, but he is not alone there is he Mr Wilson, Palmer, Hill, Brundle etc etc.

 

But he did some awesome stuff too. His driving was at times mesmeric, his ability to draw a crowd is unmatched. 

 

Just unlike Senna he was not captivating to listen to, had no charisma like Prost or Senna or a lot of drivers.  He would be perfect in modern era actually!

Edited by chunder27, 06 May 2015 - 19:54.

[Nemo1965]

I never had a problem with Piquet, bit of a hero of mine as a kid, and he also knoew how to wind Mansell up which lets face it is probably one of the easiest things to do in F1!

 

He did not react well to being beaten by him, but in all honesty their relationship was a draw, Mansell was quicker in 86, Piquet got some back in 87. But on track Piquest was old school fair, honest and totally gentlemanly, as Mansell was actually. The person who wasnt and ushered in this modern thing was Senna.

 

The things Mansell does that annoy people are his fabrication of events, his continuous lying in interviews and making up stuff that simply does not need to be done.  The bloke was one of the quickest in an era that contained arguably the best drivers of recent times, and he stll finds the need to do this stupid working class hero rubbish.

 

You live in a tax haven, earn millions, only do things if they benefit you. He had the country in his pocket, he knew it, hence BTCC and WEC drives. His lads were nothing special in a car despite getting all the breaks, but he is not alone there is he Mr Wilson, Palmer, Hill, Brundle etc etc.

 

But he did some awesome stuff too. His driving was at times mesmeric, his ability to draw a crowd is unmatched. 

 

Just unlike Senna he was not captivating to listen to, had no charisma like Prost or Senna or a lot of drivers.  He would be perfect in modern era actually!

 

Nice summation why I don't like Mansell but I don't agree with the hidden argument that al current drivers lack charisma (because that is, why you say, that Mansell would fit in perfectly). That is to say... charisma is in the eye of the beholder. Usually it is the combination of power and friendliness. Famous drivers like Hamilton and Alonso don't have power any more, because modern media (including, of course internet) can bring them down just like that. We all know this, so we perceive: no charisma.

[Ikebana]

Perhaps understandable given the circumstances, but still:

 

 

 

 

That's not understandable in any way or form.

 

 

Waving his hand. Big deal...

 

There are drivers that crashed on others in races but hey, Alonso waving his hand had to come up first.

 

[taran]

I never had a problem with Piquet, bit of a hero of mine as a kid, and he also knoew how to wind Mansell up which lets face it is probably one of the easiest things to do in F1!

 

He did not react well to being beaten by him, but in all honesty their relationship was a draw, Mansell was quicker in 86, Piquet got some back in 87. But on track Piquest was old school fair, honest and totally gentlemanly, as Mansell was actually. The person who wasnt and ushered in this modern thing was Senna.

 

The things Mansell does that annoy people are his fabrication of events, his continuous lying in interviews and making up stuff that simply does not need to be done.  The bloke was one of the quickest in an era that contained arguably the best drivers of recent times, and he stll finds the need to do this stupid working class hero rubbish.

 

You live in a tax haven, earn millions, only do things if they benefit you. He had the country in his pocket, he knew it, hence BTCC and WEC drives. His lads were nothing special in a car despite getting all the breaks, but he is not alone there is he Mr Wilson, Palmer, Hill, Brundle etc etc.

 

But he did some awesome stuff too. His driving was at times mesmeric, his ability to draw a crowd is unmatched. 

 

Just unlike Senna he was not captivating to listen to, had no charisma like Prost or Senna or a lot of drivers.  He would be perfect in modern era actually!

 

I don't think you are given Mansell his due here.

 

It's just that certain drivers need certain things to get the best out of them.

Some drivers need to be loved by their team. Others need to feel they are channeling God. Others need to feel they have a competitive edge in their setup.

And some like Mansell need to feel that everyone and everything is against them.

 

In 1992, there was much debate over why Mansell just couldn't admit that the active Williams was miles ahead of the competition and that anyone could win in that car.

Nobody would have begrudged him (or Patrese) the title and nobody believed he wasn't a top driver. But Nigel needed to think he was the one doing the heavy lifting.

It was what he needed to perform at his best and thus he would rewrite history in his mind to match what he needed. It wasn't malicious lying IMO. Just annoying.

[Brackets]

Waving his hand. Big deal...

The big deal is not the hand-waving. The big deal is the message he was trying to send across…

[as65p]

The big deal is not the hand-waving. The big deal is the message he was trying to send across…

Would you decipher it for us? I was always curious what message behind when I get waved at on the road.

[as65p]

I imagine Innes Ireland standing behind Jackie Stewart on the grid doing a chicken impression is considered antics?

 

Oh man, I'd love to see that. Might there be any pics?

[FatHarryWhite]

What WAS he thinking?

 

 

Without further comments, but these images clearly qualifies as antics in my book anyways;

 

 

 

 

Bob Dylan and Bono are looking pretty rough these days...

[DampMongoose]

Oh man, I'd love to see that. Might there be any pics?

 

Not that I'm aware of. In the middle of Jackie's GPDA crusade for safety, he turned round on the grid one day and caught Innes in the act. 

[as65p]

Not that I'm aware of. In the middle of Jackie's GPDA crusade for safety, he turned round on the grid one day and caught Innes in the act. 

 

Yeah, I figured that must have been the roots of it, but I never heard that chicken story before. Hilarious, shame there are no pics.   

[DampMongoose]

Yeah, I figured that must have been the roots of it, but I never heard that chicken story before. Hilarious, shame there are no pics. 

 

I can imagine Innes doing it!  It's in JYS's auto-biography, a difference of opinion only, as they got on very well together.

[SophieB]

More tales of Piquet's antics, care of the much-missed Professor Sid Watkins:

 

Balestre was a very smart chap, actually, but he was very short-tempered and would fly into a paroxysm of rage about small things. Nelson Piquet, who was very mischievous, used to tease him unmercifully. Once Piquet said he’d found Balestre’s hotel key in the pitlane, and gave it to him. It had a metal tag attached which said, ‘Admit one prostitute to the room of the president.’ Another time Balestre was making an endless pompous speech at one of the drivers’ briefings, and Piquet was standing beside him with a litre bottle of mineral water, pouring it into the pocket of Balestre’s blazer. Everybody could see what he was doing, but it was a while before Balestre became aware of the wetness seeping through his trousers

 

 

http://www.motorspor...or-sid-watkins/

[wookles]

This thread isn't really very positive is it? Just a load of trolls taking pot-shots at their least favourite drivers.

[brr]

This thread isn't really very positive is it? Just a load of trolls taking pot-shots at their least favourite drivers.

 

Feel free to post positive "worst F1 driver quotes or antics ever". 

[Nustang70]

Ralf Schumacher didn't cover himself in glory during the 2002 Goodwood Festival of Speed

Terrific article title  

[Henri Greuter]

This thread isn't really very positive is it? Just a load of trolls taking pot-shots at their least favourite drivers.

 

Has it occurred to you that some drivers became least favourite drivers for some just because of some of the tactics and antics they carried out for which this thread was opened?

 

Henri

[Henri Greuter]

A very brutal and rude comment made,

 

not by an F1 driver but by AJ Foyt after winning Indy in 1967:

 

"Like I said, cheaters aren't winners."

 

(Referring to the Granatelli team and their driver parnelli Jones and ther STP #40 Turbine car that retired with 4 laps to go and way ot in the lead at the time of btreaking down)

 

 

Henri