58 replies to this topic

[GenJackRipper]

...or perhaps not.
But I think I found a pretty neat compromise between new markets, avoiding dictatorships, low travel costs and retaining classic circuits. I've worked on this years dates.

Obviosuly this could never happen under Bernie, but in a saner future? Who knows...

Gen Jack Rippers F1 Calendar
 

1 Australian Grand Prix             Australia Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit, Melbourne               15 Mar

2 Singapore Grand Prix            Singapore Marina Bay Street Circuit, Singapore                    29 Mar

3 Chinese Grand Prix               China Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai                     5 Apr

4 Japanese Grand Prix             Japan Suzuka Circuit, Suzuka                                                19 Apr

5 Russian Grand Prix               Russia Sochi Autodrom, Sochi                                                3 May

6 Spanish Grand Prix               Spain Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, Barcelona                  10 May

7 Monaco Grand Prix               Monaco Circuit de Monaco, Monte Carlo                                24 May

8 San Marino Grand Prix          Italy, Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari, Imola                            7 Jun
 

Break for Le Mans
 

9 Austrian Grand Prix               Austria Red Bull Ring, Spielberg                                            28 Jun
Hungarian Grand Prix               Hungary Hungaroring, Budapest                      (every other year)

10 German Grand Prix             Germany, Nürburgring, Nürnburg                                           5 Jul

11 British Grand Prix                 United Kingdom Silverstone Circuit, Silverstone                    19 Jul

12 European Grand Prix          Different European Venue Each Year                                    26 Jul
 

Summerbreak
 

13 Belgian Grand Prix               Belgium Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Stavelot                23 Aug

14 French Grand Prix                France Circuit Paul Ricard, Le Castellet                              30 Aug

15 Italian Grand Prix                  Italy Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza                            6 Sep

16 Canadian Grand Prix           Canada Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal                           13 Sep

17 United States Grand Prix     United States Circuit of the Americas, Austin, Texas             20 Sep

18 Mexican Grand Prix             Mexico Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Mexico City          27 Sep

19 Argentine Grand Prix          Autódromo Juan y Oscar Gálvez, Buenos Aires                    4 Okt

20 Brazilian Grand Prix             Brazil Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo                   18 Okt

21 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix         United Arab Emirates Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi            1 Nov

Some notes:
* Bahrain and Malaysia were scraped since Bahrain is a dictatorship and Malaysia is a booring track.
* I've separated the races into a Pacific/Asian section in spring, Europan in summer and North/South American in the fall with Abu Dhabi as the sole Mideast as the final. This primarily for traveling costs. In Asia they need to fly obviously, but all of North America could be done with trucks. South America aswell.
* By puting Japan in the spring we avoid the monsson which usually screws up this otherwise epic race. Also since Singapore is by the equator, there is no need to have it in september.
* Putting Russia in the spring is a great halfway point between Asia and Europe (which Russia is). Sure, it's a dictatorship, but not compared to Bahrain.
And more people can attend in Sochi than in Bahrain. A much better destination.
* In Europe having Monaco and San Marino beginning the summer and France and Italy ending it is a nice gesture and it brings back two great races.
* Having Austria and Hungary switch years (perhaps rename it the Habsburg Grand Prix? makes way of two smaller races beeing able to remain.
* The European Grand Prix is a great way for smaller tracks (for a smaller fee) to be able to be part of the Formula One world.
It is also a great way for countries to put money into their circuits; I'm thinking Dutch GP, Swedish GP, Portugese GP etc. Obviously other tracks in exciting host countries could aply aswell (Hochenheim, Valencia etc.) but primaly it's a great way for smaller european countries to get back into it.
* Puting Canada in the beginning of fall is to reduce travel costs (makes no sense to have a american race in the european leg). Since it's the beginning of september, the weather should still be good enough.
* Retaining the Argentinian GP would give motor fan-prone South America one more race.
* Money rich Mideast only get's one race but then again that is the only real race. Bahrain is a pseudo-state while Abu Dhabi is actully a city (with a great track).
*Ending on November 1th gives the drivers more rest and the teams more time ahead of the new season.


Whaddaya think?

 

[AustinF1]

Austin in mid-September? 

 

No way. They have a hard enough time selling November. People would be dropping like flies if it were in the heat of the summer.

I see this all the time, where people want to pair Austin & Montreal. It just doesn't work in terms of weather.

Edited by AustinF1, 05 May 2015 - 16:00.

[IPBushy]

You drop Bahrain for political reasons and keep China and Russia?  I didn't bother looking any further!

 

[PayasYouRace]

I've played this game before. http://forums.autosp...ndar/?p=6535271

[GenJackRipper]

Austin in mid-September? 

 

No way. They have a hard enough time selling November. People would be dropping like flies if it were in the heat of the summer.

I see this all the time, where people want to pair Austin & Montreal. It just doesn't work in terms of weather.

Hmm, good point.
 

 

You drop Bahrain for political reasons and keep China and Russia?  I didn't bother looking any further!

Well Bahrain is just a small speck on the map that happens to have alot of money.

China is the worlds biggest economy and Russia is Europes biggest country. Not really comparable.

I've played this game before. http://forums.autosp...ndar/?p=6535271

Ah, didn't know there was a thread for it.
Thanks.

[Jimisgod]

More than 18 races is pretty useless and France doesn't currently have a track that would add anything to the calender.

 

1. AUS
2. CHN
3. JAP
4. MAL
5. TUR or BAH
6. ESP
7. MON
8. GER
9. AUT or HUN
10. GBR
11. BEL
12. ITA
13. RUS or ABU
14. SIN
15. CAN
16. USA
17. MEX
18. BRA

The Singapore jump to Canada would be the only major travel distance, so put a break after Italy.

[TimRTC]

Austin in mid-September? 

 

No way. They have a hard enough time selling November. People would be dropping like flies if it were in the heat of the summer.

I see this all the time, where people want to pair Austin & Montreal. It just doesn't work in terms of weather.

 

Hey, I went for the FIAWEC race last September and it wasn't too bad...

 

[PayasYouRace]

 

Ah, didn't know there was a thread for it.
Thanks.

 

Well it was ages ago. But I won't really change my answer. I'm still particularly fond of my idea for rotating races, and my Pacific GP idea is my favourite.

[AustinF1]

 

Hey, I went for the FIAWEC race last September and it wasn't too bad...

 

Well, of course there are exceptions. That was a rainy weekend, so that helped cool things off into the 80s on Friday, but it was still in the 90s on Saturday. I've lived here in Austin for almost 40 years. Temperatures get into the 100s regularly in July, August, and and half of September. The hottest temperature I've ever seen here was 112F, and it was in September. Being at COTA all day in the 90s is brutal, even for locals like me who are acclimated to the heat. With the severe lack of shade out there, the sun  beating down on your head just really starts to get to you after a while.

 

Your post brings up another point though. That's the FIAWEC/Tudor weekend at COTA.

 

Nice pic btw. T15?

Edited by AustinF1, 05 May 2015 - 17:36.

[AustinF1]

Well it was ages ago. But I won't really change my answer. I'm still particularly fond of my idea for rotating races, and my Pacific GP idea is my favourite.

Yeah, I like that idea too and suggested something a long time ago where there would be a core group of annual races and then a rotating group. I have thought for years that this was something it appeared BE was trying to do.

 

Wow. I can't believe it's been 3 years since I wrote this (Oct 2012)...

Bernie recently said Europe may be limited to 5 race dates (or 6? I can't recall) from here on out. There are 8 races there now. Adding France & Russia makes 10...I think we may see about 3 or so annual races in Europe (Silverstone, Monaco, & Monza) with the remaining races alternating among the remaining dates. IF all of the other projects in the pipeline are successful (Mexico, S. America x 2, France, India #2, West Coast, South Africa, & the 2 current U.S. projects), that makes 29 races, with 10 in Europe, 8 in the Americas, 6 in Asia,  and 5 the Arab states, India, and Australia. 

I think F1 could be headed toward a certain number of set, annual races in Europe, in the Americas, in Asia, and in the Arab States/India/Australia, with the remaining races rotating among the remaining dates. This would be a great situation for F1, creating more demand for races among the tracks, actually giving some tracks another way to make their race work, and spreading F1 to more areas without increasing the number of race dates. 

 

[Rinehart]

Not sure what Sochi and Shanghai are doing on any fantasy calendar!!!

[Fastcake]

Have you realised you've scheduled seven races in a row over three continents...?

[hamilton10000]

Belgain to Argentina is 7 consecutive weekends of F1 which would never work. Also Malaysia is a great track certainly a better track than china and russia among others

[AustinF1]

Once you start trying to re-write the calendar, it doesn't take long to see it's a lot more difficult than most people realize. There's a whole lot to consider. More than most think there is.

[Nemo1965]

Okay, I took the topic to be about tracks... but it is just about events.

 

My calendar:

 

1.Interlagos

2. Autodromo Buenos Aires

3. Long Beach (the old lay-out)

4. Imola

5. Monaco

6. Istanbul

7. Paris (streetrace)

8. Silverstone

9. Zandvoort

10. Hockenheim (1979 lay-out)

11. Hungary

12. Sepang

13. Shanghai

14. Singapore

15. Suzuka

16. Adelaide

17. Abu Dhabi

[Spillage]

avoiding dictatorships


Gen Jack Rippers F1 Calendar
 

3 Chinese Grand Prix               China Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai                     5 Apr

 

5 Russian Grand Prix               Russia Sochi Autodrom, Sochi                                                3 May

 

21 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix         United Arab Emirates Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi            1 Nov

 

Aside from that, I think it's pretty good. A few problems; Mexico and Austin would probably be too hot in September. I'm not sure Hungary needs a Grand Prix. Russia probably does, but the track sucks. Abu Dhabi, I think, falls foul of both of these problems. I'd also scrap Imola (harsh as it may sound, one race per country is enough) and add an event in South Africa in spite of the extra cost. Also, the seven-header couldn't work, but it could be rejigged so that it did.

 

I do really like the idea of having a European GP in a different location each year, though. That way Imola and Hungary could make an appearance, and you could have capitals bidding to host one-off events on temporary street tracks, which would be awesome.

[SanDiegoGo]

https://joesaward.wo...just-imagine-2/

[Jamiednm]

You subjectively drop Malaysia for being a 'boring track' and include Russia?! The list has no credibility.

Edited by Jamiednm, 05 May 2015 - 18:31.

[AustinF1]

https://joesaward.wo...just-imagine-2/

Wow. That article is just all over the place. First off, he starts by saying it would be a good idea to start the calendar in "late summer" in Oz (early-mid February I guess?), then 8 or so races later he talks about following Monaco up with Long Beach and Montreal in "early June". He also talks about the US market being of supreme importance, and mentions Long Beach, NY, and Florida on his calendar, but no Austin. 

 

LOL...OK Joe.

Edited by AustinF1, 05 May 2015 - 18:27.

[ConsiderAndGo]

AUSTRALIA (Melbourne)
MALAYSIA (Sepang)
BAHRAIN

SPAIN (Barcelona)
MONACO
SAN MARINO
AUSTRIA
TURKEY
UK (Silverstone)
FRANCE (Magny-Cours)
GERMANY (Old Hockenheim)
HUNGARY
CANADA (Montreal)
BELGIUM (Spa)
ITALY (Monza)
SINGAPORE
JAPAN (Suzuka)
USA (COTA)
MEXICO (Mexico City)
ARGENTINA (Buenos Aires)
BRAZIL (Interlagos)

 

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 05 May 2015 - 19:11.

[ollebompa]

1.adelaide

2.sepang

3.imola

4.barcelona

5.spielberg

6.monaco

7.montreal 

8.COTA

9.silverstone

10.Le-mans Bugatti

11.nurburgring GP

12.hungaroring

13.spa

14.monza

15.suzuka

16.interlagos 

[TimRTC]

Well, of course there are exceptions. That was a rainy weekend, so that helped cool things off into the 80s on Friday, but it was still in the 90s on Saturday. I've lived here in Austin for almost 40 years. Temperatures get into the 100s regularly in July, August, and and half of September. The hottest temperature I've ever seen here was 112F, and it was in September. Being at COTA all day in the 90s is brutal, even for locals like me who are acclimated to the heat. With the severe lack of shade out there, the sun  beating down on your head just really starts to get to you after a while.

 

Your post brings up another point though. That's the FIAWEC/Tudor weekend at COTA.

 

Nice pic btw. T15?

 

Yes 15, we got there just as the heavens opened.

 

The next day we drove up to Dallas for the NHRA Nationals and it was like being in the Sahara, punishing heat (I believe it hit around 95F during the middle of the day), even the locals were hiding below the grandstands - the leather on my Nikon camera actually melted around my hand.

 

So yes, probably not the best time to host an F1 race.

[ANF]

This is the one.

 1.  13/03/2016   Mexico City
 2.  27/03/2016   Austin
 3.  10/04/2016   Kyalami
 4.  24/04/2016   Hungaroring
 5.  15/05/2016   Spielberg
 6.  29/05/2016   Monaco
 7.  12/06/2016   Montreal
 8.  26/06/2016   Interlagos
 9.  17/07/2016   Silverstone
10.  31/07/2016   Nürburgring
11.  28/08/2016   Spa-Francorchamps
12.  11/09/2016   Monza
13.  25/09/2016   Singapore
14.  09/10/2016   Sepang
15.  23/10/2016   Suzuka
16.  06/11/2016   Albert Park

 

[Atreiu]

Considering 2015:

01 - April 5th, Melbourne

02 - April 12th, Shanghai, I'm not a fan of the circuit but I guess there's room for China

03 - April 26th, Istambul, **** yeah

04 - May 10th, Barcelona or Valencia,

05 - May 24th, Monaco

06 - May 31st, Austin

07 - June 7th, Montreal

08 - June 21st, Paul Ricard, 1985 layout

09 - June 28th, Silverstone

10 - July 12th, Hockenheim (ideally, yes)

11 - July 26th, Hungaroring

12 - August 9th, Red Bull Ring

13 - September 6th, Spa

14 - September 13th, Monza

15 - September 27th, Russia, despite everything...

16 - October 4th, Singapore

17 - October 18th, Suzuka

18 - November 1st, Abu Dhabi

19 - November 8th, Interlagos

 

Mexico, Bahrain, Sepang, not really a fan. Bye bye.

Edited by Atreiu, 05 May 2015 - 19:15.

[fridge46]

My attempt, using 2015 dates (I have tried to justify dates in the last column):

 

15 Mar Australia      Same weekend as 2015 race
22 Mar Malaysia       Run between Mar-17 and Apr-10 since 2001
29 Mar Singapore    
 5 Apr    
12 Apr India          Organisers want India GP in April!
19 Apr U.A.E.   
26 Apr Bahrain        Latest date Bahrain GP has been run is Apr-26 (2009)
 3 May    
10 May Spain    
17 May    
24 May Monaco    
31 May    
 7 Jun Russia    
14 Jun Austria    
21 Jun    
28 Jun France    
 5 Jul Great Britain    
12 Jul    
19 Jul Germany    
26 Jul Hungary    
 2 Aug    
 9 Aug    
16 Aug    
23 Aug Belgium    
30 Aug Italy    
 6 Sep    
13 Sep China          2014 Formula E Beijing ePrix run on Sep-13
20 Sep Korea    
27 Sep Japan          Same weekend as 2015 race
 4 Oct    
11 Oct Canada         Canada GP was held on Oct-9 in 1978
18 Oct United States  1 week before 2015 date
25 Oct Mexico         1 week before 2015 date; was on Oct-12 in 1986
 1 Nov    
 8 Nov Argentina    
15 Nov Brazil         Same weekend as 2015 race
22 Nov    
29 Nov    

Long haul races in triple-headers. GPs in close proximity grouped.
If New Jersey had been on 2014 calendar, there would have been 3 races in 3 straight weekends    
 

Edited by fridge46, 05 May 2015 - 19:24.

[AustinF1]

Yes 15, we got there just as the heavens opened.

 

The next day we drove up to Dallas for the NHRA Nationals and it was like being in the Sahara, punishing heat (I believe it hit around 95F during the middle of the day), even the locals were hiding below the grandstands - the leather on my Nikon camera actually melted around my hand.

 

So yes, probably not the best time to host an F1 race.

Yep. It sucks. People always ask us how we get used to it. The short answer is that we simply don't. 

 

Sure, we acclimate to the heat (to an extent), esp if we work or play in it a lot, but even then we learn very quickly to take breaks, hydrate well, get in the shade or inside as much as possible, etc. At COTA there is hardly any shade at all, so the effects of the sun & heat add up very quickly. 

[RCRC]

All these fantasy calendars need to be a bit more bleeding edge. 

 

For me, about 40 events (one every weekend for most of the year) across the globe (top 40 countries by GDP basis on PPP) with no breaks in between.

 

Just Saturday practice (free tickets); And Sunday Qual/race back-to-back (tickets at 5X average weekly wage on PPP basis);

 

About-3 hours live/repeat broadcast on Sat/Sunday; watch it anywhere, any device/mobile etc

 

And about 20 teams and 40 drivers would do the trick.

 

[AustinF1]

All these fantasy calendars need to be a bit more bleeding edge. 

 

For me, about 40 events (one every weekend for most of the year) across the globe (top 40 countries by GDP basis on PPP) with no breaks in between.

 

Just Saturday practice (free tickets); And Sunday Qual/race back-to-back (tickets at 5X average weekly wage on PPP basis);

 

About-3 hours live/repeat broadcast on Sat/Sunday; watch it anywhere, any device/mobile etc

 

And about 20 teams and 40 drivers would do the trick.

 

That'll be good, because at those prices there won't be many people there to see it live. (...& yeah, I realize you're probably saying this with tongue planted firmly in cheek).

Edited by AustinF1, 05 May 2015 - 19:49.

[Kristian]

Firstly I'd cut to 18 races - I prefer quality over quantity, and more to the point I don't have time to see more than that in a year!

 

Secondly, I'm using circuits that already exist, though not all have an F1 grade licence. 

 

1. Australia - Melbourne (traditional season opener, I love it).

2. China - Shanghai (we need the race in China, and this would be the best venue for it) 

3. Bahrain - Manama (outer circuit) (the sole race in the Middle East, at the speedy outer circuit).

4. Spain - Catalunya (without chicane) (Keeping in this challening track, with the final corners restored to their former glory).

5. Monaco - Monte Carlo (A must-have in the F1 calendar)

6. Canada - Montreal (ditto Monaco)

7. USA - Elkhart Lake (a trip down to Wisconsin for great racing on this fast and hilly circuit).

8. Austria - Red Bull Ring (a great little track with an excellent race weekend)

9. Great Britain - Silverstone (the traditional mid-summer slot for F1's first venue)

10. France - Paul Ricard (with full mistral straight) (the return of an old classic and its monster straight. Sorry Honda).

11. Germany - Nurburgring (my favourite of the two German tracks since the castration of Hockenheim)

12. Hungary - Hungaroring (keeping F1 in Eastern Europe at this great little track)

13. Belgium - Spa (just because... Spa. But regravelled). 

14. Italy - Monza (with a regravelled Parabolica). 

15. Singapore - Marina Bay (night race, long and challenging - a mainstay on the calendar)

16. Japan - Suzuka (no question)

17. Argentina - Potero del Funes (probably the most spectacular track on the calendar if this happened)

18. Brazil - Interlagos (the best place to finish the season) 

[noikeee]

I've played this game before. http://forums.autosp...ndar/?p=6535271

 

Yep. Think I'll stick to my choices again:

 

 

 

I did this a few days ago for another forum I'm at.

 

The "realistic" F1 calendar:

 

R1. Australian GP / Adelaide

R2. Malaysian GP / Sepang

R3. South African GP / Kyalami

R4. Monaco GP / Monaco

R5. Spanish GP / Jerez

R6. Portuguese GP / Portimão

R7. Canadian GP / Montreal

R8. USA - East GP / Long Beach

R9. French GP / Paul Ricard

R10. British GP / Silverstone

R11. German GP / Nurburgring

R12. Austrian GP / Red Bull Ring

R13. Belgian GP / Spa-Francorchamps

R14. Italian GP / Monza

R15. Turkish GP / Istanbul

R16. Singaporean GP / Marina Bay

R17. Japanese GP / Suzuka

R18. USA - South GP / Austin

R19. Argentinian GP / Potrero de los Funes

R20. Brazilian GP / Interlagos

 

The "dream" calendar... this wouldn't be suited at all to formula cars to be honest, I'm thinking more of some sort of international tintops championship. Sort of a WTCC on steroids with proper spectacular cars like the Aussie V8s:

 

R1. South African GP / Kyalami

R2. Australian GP / Bathurst

R3. Monaco GP / Monaco

R4. Portuguese GP / Portimão

R5. Canadian GP / Mosport

R6. USA - Northeast GP / VIR

R7. USA - Southeast GP / Road Atlanta

R8. French - Centre GP / Charade

R9. French - North GP / Le Mans

R10. English - South GP / Brands Hatch

R11. English - North GP / Oulton Park

R12. Scottish GP / Knockhill

R13. German GP / Nordschleiffe

R14. Austrian GP / Red Bull Ring

R15. Belgian GP / Spa-Francorchamps

R16. Italian GP / Mugello

R17. Argentinian GP / Potrero de los Funes

R18. Brazilian GP / Tarumã

R19. Japanese GP / Suzuka

R20. Macau GP / Macau

 

[Loops]

People really do need to just get over F1 going to other countries that don't suit their political outlook. Most people who complain about these countries, have no idea what is actually going on. Just regurgitate crap they read in the media while ignoring things much closer to home.

[AustinF1]

Yep. Think I'll stick to my choices again:

...

R8. USA - East GP / Long Beach

 

East & LB don't compute. Did you mean West or New York?

[sabjit]

Firstly I'd cut to 18 races - I prefer quality over quantity, and more to the point I don't have time to see more than that in a year!

 

 

It seems that a few people think that the number of races and the quality of the races is some sort of a trade off. When I see no reason why that would be the case.

[JeordieX]

1. New Zealand - Taupo (or Upgraded Hampton Downs)

2. Australia - Phillip Island (or Bathurst Permanent Circuit)

3. Indonesia - Sentul

4. Malaysia - Sepang

5. Sinagpore - Marina Bay

6. Thailand - Buriram

7. Japan - Suzuka

8. South Korea - Inje

9. China - Shanghai

10. India - Buddh

11. Qatar - Losail

12. Bahrain - Sakhir

13. Turkey - Istanbul

14. Spain - Catalunya (or Jerez)

15. Portugal - Estoril (or Portimao)

16. Monaco - Monte Carlo

17. France - Le Mans Bugatti

18. Belgium - Spa-Francorchamps

19. Netherlands - Assen (or Zandvoort)

20. Austria - Spielberg

21. Great Britain - Silverstone

22. Germany - Nurburgring

23. Sweden - Anderstorp (Upgrade Needed)

24. Russia - Moscow

25. Azerbaijan - Baku

26. Hungary - Hungaroring

27. Czech Republic - Brno

28. Italy - Monza

29. Canada - Montreal (or Mont-Tremblant/Mosport)

30. United States - Indianapolis

31. Mexico - Mexico City

32. Argentina - Termas de Rio Hondo

33. Brazil - Interlagos

34. South Africa - Kyalami

35. Morocco - Marrakech

36. United Arab Emirates - Yas Marina

Edited by JeordieX, 05 May 2015 - 21:55.

[MatthewA]

1. Australia - Albert Park

2. Malaysia - Sepang

3. Bahrain - Sakhir

4. San Marino - Imola

5. Spain - Catalunya (without chicane)

6. Monaco - Monte Carlo

7. Canada - Montreal

8. USA - Road America

9. Austria - Red Bull Ring

10. Great Britain - Silverstone

11. Germany - Old Hockenheim

12. Hungary - Hungaroring

13. Europe - (rotating)

14. Belgium - Spa

15. Italy - Monza

16. Singapore - Marina Bay

17. Japan - Suzuka

18. Argentina - Potrero des los Funes

19. Brazil - Interlagos

 

[AustinF1]

Indy? Really?

 

I totally understand wantin g to go to some of the other venues besides COTA ... but Indy was an awful track for F1.

[ionutz2oo0]

 1.Australian Grand Prix            Australia Mount Panorama Circuit, Bathurst                      1-3 April 

 2.Singapore Grand Prix            Singapore Marina Bay Street Circuit, Singapore                8-10 April

 3.Japanese Grand Prix             Japan Suzuka Circuit, Suzuka                                              22-24 April  

 4.South African Grand Prix      South Africa Kyalami Grand Prix, Kyalami                          6-8 May

 5.Spanish Grand Prix                Spain Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, Barcelona             20-22 May

 6.Monaco Grand Prix                Monaco Circuit de Monaco, Monte Carlo                             26-29 May

                         
 

 7.French Grand Prix                 France,Circuit de la Sarthe, Le Mans (Run in the same weekend with the 24h du Mans as support race for the main event) 9-11 June

 

 8.Austrian Grand Prix               Austria Red Bull Ring, Spielberg                                            1-3 July        
 9.German Grand Prix                Germany, Nürburgring, Nürnburg                                           8-10 July 

 10.British Grand Prix                United Kingdom Silverstone Circuit, Silverstone                  22-24 July

 11.European Grand Prix           Different European Venue Each Year                                      29-31 July
 

Summerbreak
 

 12.Belgian Grand Prix                Belgium Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Stavelot                          26-28 August   

 13.Italian Grand Prix                   Italy Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza                                       2-4 September  

 14.Canadian Grand Prix             Canada Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal                                      16-18 September

 15.United States Grand Prix      United States Watkins Glen International, Watkins Glen, NY          23-25 September

 16.Mexican Grand Prix               Mexico Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Mexico City                   7-9 October 

 17.Argentine Grand Prix            Autódromo Juan y Oscar Gálvez, Buenos Aires                              21-23 October

 18.Brazilian Grand Prix              Brazil Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo                              28-30 October

 19.Abu Dhabi Grand Prix           United Arab Emirates Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi                      11-13 November

 

* I made a lot of back to back races I know, but I start a a month later basically, and it ends in the 2nd weekend in November. 

* French Grand Prix race to be held on Saturday between the warm-up for Le Mans and the actual 24h race. 

* I also inserted a 3 week break after Le Mans. I would really like to see F1 on the Circuit de la Sarthe and it would create a really good atmosphere for the 24 hour race. 

* I kept the summer break for teams to have time to organise for the remaining 2 euro races and the fly-away ones on the American continent. 

* I do not see the point of having to GP's in the same country, so that's why I didn't include Imola, however it could be used as the European GP. Other candidates for that would be Istanbul Park, Dijon-Prenois, Zolder or Hungaroring. in my oppinion. 

* I don't see the point of the Russian GP so that's why it didn't make the list. 

* Argentinian GP venue could also be the MotoGP track however i prefer the one above as it looks a bit more technical. 

* I tried to pick interesting tracks and I hope I managed that. Mount Panorama must be one of my favourite tracks while Kyalami has so much history 

* If I'd try to fit all the tracks that I like, I'd probably end with 50 races and 90% of them in Europe...some countries would have 3GP's so I tried my best to create something entertaining for everyone with races all around the world, grouped in such a manner that the teams wouldn't have to fly to Asia, return to Europe for a race and go back to Asia after. 

* I'm not a fan of the Tilke tracks so i tried to avoid them.

* I kept Monaco on it's usual date and I tried to integrate the first part of the season around that. 

Edited by ionutz2oo0, 05 May 2015 - 23:21.

[AustinF1]

Dates based on this year...each line skipped is a weekend skipped...European races in bold type.

 

Mar 15 - Australia

Mar 22 - Malaysia

 

Apr 5 - China

Apr 12 - Bahrain

 

 

May 3 - Spain

May 10 - Imola 

 

May 24 - Monaco 

 

June 7 - Montreal

June 14 - Rotation of N. American tracks or street circuits (Sonoma, Miami, Long Beach, Mosport, Laguna Seca - fantasy, I know - etc)

 

June 28 - Austria

July 5 - Silverstone

 

July 19- Hungary

July 26 - Turkey

 

 

August 16 - Belgium

August 23 - Monza

 

Sep 7 - Singapore

Sep 14 - Suzuka

 

Sep 28 - Sochi

Oct 4 - Germany

Oct 11 - France

 

Oct 25 - Austin

Nov 1 - Mexico City

Nov 8 - Interlagos

 

Nov 22 - Baku

Nov 29 - Qatar

Dec 6 - Abu Dhabi

Edited by AustinF1, 05 May 2015 - 23:45.

[D1rtyHarry]

I think the leaked proposed calendar is pretty good to be honest, I don't mind it starting later if we don't have these 2-3 week breaks between races we have been doing this season.

 

If it means waiting an extra month so the season can be consistent in it's offerings then so be it. At the minute it's too stop/start for my liking.

[Ensign]

Probably being picky here but on the OP's calendar I don't like back to back races at similar circuits - in this case flat street circuits to start the season. I prefer for example Spa followed by Monza or Sepang followed by Singapore.  Back to back anticlockwise races (Interlagos/Austin) are fine I suppose but with only a few I'd prefer them spread out.  Korea/Singapore/Austin then Interlagos would be annoying. 

 

BTW I thought Sepang was one of the more interesting of the new(ish) tracks and Imola one of the worst for its last ten years or so on the calendar.

[AustinF1]

^^^ Mexico (clockwise) separates Austin & Interlagos on just about every schedule I've seen.

[Atreiu]

People really do need to just get over F1 going to other countries that don't suit their political outlook. Most people who complain about these countries, have no idea what is actually going on. Just regurgitate crap they read in the media while ignoring things much closer to home.

 

Yawn, what's your ideal calendar?

[Stugg93]

1. Australia- Melbourne (Rough date: 1 March)

2. Malaysia- Sepang (15 March)

3. China- Street circuit around Shanghai, Beijing or one of the other coastal cities. (22 March)

4. India- New Mumbai area circuit (5 April)

5. South Africa- New track near Cape Town (12 April) 

6. Spain- Barcelona (26 April)

7. Monaco (3 May)

8. USA- New York (17 May)

9. Canada- Montreal (24 May)

10. France- New circuit- probably near Paris (7 June)

11. Britain- Silverstone (14 June)

12. Germany- Nurburgring/ Old Hockenheim (28 June)

13. Austria- Red Bull Ring (5 July)

14. Romania- Replacing Hungary- either street circuit in Bucharest or a normal track in Bucharest or on the coast. (19 July)

15. Turkey- Istanbul (26 July)

16. Russia- Sochi (although it be better with a track that produces better racing) (16 August)

17. Italy- Monza (23 August)

18. Netherlands- Zandvoort (or a new track) (6 September)

19. Belgium- Spa (13 September)

20. UAE- Abu Dhabi (27 September)

21. Singapore (11 October)

22. Japan- Suzuka/Fuji (18 October)

23. USA- Austin (1 November)

24. Mexico- Mexico City (8 November)

25. Argentina- New track probably near Buenos Aires (22 November)

26. Brazil- Interlagos (29 November)

 

Interestingly though Spa is located in Wallonia, and if Belgium were ever to split and the French and Dutch speaking part join those respective countries the French GP could return ;) probably the best chance of it ever making a comeback!

[ionutz2oo0]

Firstly I'd cut to 18 races - I prefer quality over quantity, and more to the point I don't have time to see more than that in a year!

 

Secondly, I'm using circuits that already exist, though not all have an F1 grade licence. 

 

1. Australia - Melbourne (traditional season opener, I love it).

2. China - Shanghai (we need the race in China, and this would be the best venue for it) 

3. Bahrain - Manama (outer circuit) (the sole race in the Middle East, at the speedy outer circuit).

4. Spain - Catalunya (without chicane) (Keeping in this challening track, with the final corners restored to their former glory).

5. Monaco - Monte Carlo (A must-have in the F1 calendar)

6. Canada - Montreal (ditto Monaco)

7. USA - Elkhart Lake (a trip down to Wisconsin for great racing on this fast and hilly circuit).

8. Austria - Red Bull Ring (a great little track with an excellent race weekend)

9. Great Britain - Silverstone (the traditional mid-summer slot for F1's first venue)

10. France - Paul Ricard (with full mistral straight) (the return of an old classic and its monster straight. Sorry Honda).

11. Germany - Nurburgring (my favourite of the two German tracks since the castration of Hockenheim)

12. Hungary - Hungaroring (keeping F1 in Eastern Europe at this great little track)

13. Belgium - Spa (just because... Spa. But regravelled). 

14. Italy - Monza (with a regravelled Parabolica). 

15. Singapore - Marina Bay (night race, long and challenging - a mainstay on the calendar)

16. Japan - Suzuka (no question)

17. Argentina - Potero del Funes (probably the most spectacular track on the calendar if this happened)  TOTALLY AGREE AFTER WATCHING A GT1 ONBOARD. 

18. Brazil - Interlagos (the best place to finish the season)  

[HuddersfieldTerrier1986]

Wouldn't choose Paul Ricard as it's just too..........yeah, when I see races on it I struggle to work out where the track actually is due to all the paint all over the place due to the different configurations (maybe if you changed configuration every year then possibly?)

 

Not sure that anyone would really go for races on 7 consecutive weekends towards the end of the season (also not sure about going from Italy straight to Canada)

 

Abu Dhabi isn't a great track in my view and really you can tell by the shots they use that they're more interested in focussing on the celebs/hotels/fancy fluff

 

Germany I'd be happy with either track (alternate years maybe as it is now)

 

Would like to see Turkey in there somewhere too.

 

1 thing I would say (if it was up to me) is I'd make every race have enough laps to last at least 90mins (if there's no rain, safety cars etc). Good examples being Monza and Spa which currently generally last anywhere between about 75-80mins, so Spa would maybe go to 55-60 laps and Monza perhaps 65-70 laps.

Edited by HuddersfieldTerrier1986, 06 May 2015 - 08:57.

[Kristian]

Indy? Really?

 

I totally understand wantin g to go to some of the other venues besides COTA ... but Indy was an awful track for F1.

 I miss Indy. There were some brilliant races there. Better than COTA in my opinion. 

[ConsiderAndGo]

How anyone can possibly include Abu Dhabi in their ideal calendar is beyond me!!! Cannot compute.

[noikeee]

People really do need to just get over F1 going to other countries that don't suit their political outlook. Most people who complain about these countries, have no idea what is actually going on. Just regurgitate crap they read in the media while ignoring things much closer to home.

 

Can only speak for myself, but the reason I don't include Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, India, China, Russia and South Korea is nothing about politics but because I don't like those circuits from a technical point of view. China's quite good actually, but far too similar to Sepang and I'd rather have that.

 

There's also an element of those countries not having motorsport tradition and a national structure of racing series to support F1, but that's not exactly political. That's one of the reasons Japan is okay with me but South Korea is not, despite both being similarly politically aligned with the West (and the fact Suzuka shits all over the Korean circuit as a track design).

 

East & LB don't compute. Did you mean West or New York?

 

Yeah someone had pointed that out in the original thread, it was just a geographical fail from myself.

[Kobasmashi]

Round 1: Australian Grand Prix - Albert Park
Round 2: Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos
Round 3: US Grand Prix - Austin
Round 4: Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir
Round 5: Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park
Round 6: Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo
Round 7: Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya
Round 8: Portuguese Grand Prix - Portimao
Round 9: Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal
Round 10: Austrian Grand Prix - Red Bull Ring
Round 11: German Grand Prix - Nurburgring
Round 12: British Grand Prix - Silverstone
Round 13: Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring

--Summer Break--

Round 14: Belgian Grand Prix - Spa
Round 15: Italian Grand Prix - Monza
Round 16: Russian Grand Prix - Sochi
Round 17: Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay
Round 18: Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai
Round 19: Malaysian Grand Prix - Sepang
Round 20: Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka

Some explanations:

I think 20 races is just about the maximum you can fit in. Melbourne and Suzuka bookending the season is how it was when I started watching as a young child in the late 90s and I think they're perfect for that.

I think Russia and China have to be on the calendar just for their size. Shanghai isn't a great circuit but it does produce interesting racing, and Sochi was mainly boring last year due to the freaky bulletproof tyres.

I think there has to be one race in the Gulf States, and Bahrain, particularly as a twilight venue, is a better circuit than Yas Marina or Losail.

I don't like the idea of a Mexican Grand Prix on the old circuit but with the bumps flattened and the Peraltada ruined. The same goes for Imola with its neutered first sector.

Like most I would have Catalunya's proper last two corners returned to their former glory. Portimao is the best modern European circuit never to have held a Grand Prix and I think it should be included in an Iberian double bill.

I don't like Hockenheim at all in its truncated form, at least the Nurburgring has some pretty scenery and elevation changes.

I can't think of a good enough circuit in France or South Africa to justify their inclusion. Kyalami is not what it was, Magny-Cours is meh and in the middle of nowhere and Paul Ricard isn't much better.

I've tried to keep the logistics relatively logical while sticking to traditional dates for certain races. The main exception is Montreal's climate making a spring race impossible.

[HuddersfieldTerrier1986]

I can't decide on the exact order (or dates therefore) for my calendar but this would be my calendar which isn't specifically in round order (this is assuming all current and previous tracks used for any form of motor racing would be given a licence to hold one):

 

Australia - Bathurst - It'd be pretty challenging to start the season!

Malaysia - Sepang - Seems to produce decent racing even without the rain

China - Shanghai - See Malaysia

Canada - Montreal - Classic track, rarely a dull race

Monaco - Monte Carlo - May not always be the most exciting but the challenge and history means it has to be there

Britain - Silverstone - Can't leave it out

Italy - Monza - Cathedral of speed. Can't leave it out

Germany - Hockenheim 2000 version and Nordschleiffe alternating - 2 distinct sections at Hockenheim, Nordschleiffe just because it is what it is

Singapore - Singapore - Challenging due to the walls being so close plus the intense heat and it always getting close to the 2hr mark

Turkey - Istanbul - Always been a fan of that track

Portugal - Portimao - Think it's a good track

Belgium - Spa Francorchamps 1998 version - Classic track. Can't leave it out

USA - Laguna Seca - Just because?

France - Le Mans full track - Would never happen but would be interesting to see how it played out

Japan - Suzuka - Classic track, possible season finale

Brazil - Interlagos - Classic track, possible season finale

Macau - Macau - Challenging!

Mexico - Mexico City old version - Why not?

Hungary - Hungaroring - Could be worse

Austria - Red Bull Ring - Can't think of a really bad reason why not

 

In terms of some tracks I've left off:

Barcelona I left off as it's generally pretty dull plus they test there etc so they're just far too familiar with it

Dumped Russia as due to falling asleep during the race last season I'm not sure how good it actually is (I was ill that day so struggled to stay awake)

Decided not to choose Bahrain though it was tempting to pick it

Australia would've been Melbourne until I remembered Bathurst

USA could've picked any number of tracks, just plumped for Laguna Seca because I did

Was tempted to pick Estoril for Portugal as well, but chose to go for Portimao instead

 

All races would have to have enough laps (and this could change yearly if cars were significantly quicker) for the period from lights out to the chequered flag to last 90 minutes as a minimum if there was no rain and no safety cars. If they last longer already, or if rain/safety cars would make them last longer still, then all the better (with no maximum time limit other than common sense, eg if it's getting dark or if you know you're going to be sat for hours in pouring rain with conditions not improving enough to race).

Edited by HuddersfieldTerrier1986, 06 May 2015 - 12:57.