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[superstring]

Michèle Mouton not winning the 1982 WRC.

Edited by superstring, 23 June 2016 - 01:46.

[asdf24]

https://www.youtube....h?v=FsMoktU88GE

my heart ****ing sunk when Alonso crashed at Fuji in 2007

[Collombin]

superstring, on 23 Jun 2016 - 01:27, said:

Michèle Mouton not winning the 1982 WRC.

Because she is a she or because she actually deserved it? Genuine question.

[JRodrigues]

messy, on 20 Jun 2016 - 20:23, said:

I'll also always remember Richard Burns rolling out of a massive lead in Rally New Zealand, 2002. He deserved that first win for Peugeot so badly, but it wasn't to be.

 

Also in Safari Rally.. just a few meters from assistance and this happens:

 

Edited by JRodrigues, 23 June 2016 - 06:55.

[William Hunt]

Damon Hill losing the win in Hungary in an Arrows in the final laps, that would have been Arrows first F1 win, devastating.

[Balnazzard]

Jimisgod, on 20 Jun 2016 - 18:07, said:

 

So close.

Still makes me laugh 

Anyways, not counting terrible accidents, Brazil 2008 easily takes the cake, Massa being 1 corner away being champion....now THAT was close.

Edited by Balnazzard, 23 June 2016 - 11:20.

[ElJefe]

JRodrigues, on 23 Jun 2016 - 06:55, said:

Also in Safari Rally.. just a few meters from assistance and this happens:

 

 

I remember this vividly, I was rooting for him to win the Safari for the third (!) time. Richard Burns was a pretty tragic hero anyway. Brilliantly smooth behind the wheel and if fate had taken a turn for the better he could have easily been world champion multiple times. 

[MaxCrazyEddieCayer]

Let's see, Hill, Adelaide 94, JV Melbourne 96, well on his way to win his first GP. Massa 08, but handled it like a man and got my undying respect for it. Hill in Hungary in 1996, De Cesaris at Spa 1991. Of the top of my head, that it.

[Kimsterbacco]

Jimisgod, on 20 Jun 2016 - 18:07, said:

 

So close.

I attented to that race,went nuts when vettel spun on the opening lap

 

Regarding the topic,i think Nurburgring 05 was quite tough for mclaren

[chhatra]

I know this may sound trivial compared to all the moments listed already, but for it is every time I watch an F1 race since 2014.

The sound of these high speed washing machines break my heart every time.

Bring back proper engines!

[Nobody]

And in hindsight, he could have been champ

 

[sjakie]

Mark Blundell and Mauricio Gugelmin both running out of fuel on the last lap at Detroit in 1997, both losing Pac West's first Indycar win

[Dick Dastardly]

What about the 66 Le Mans for Ken Miles / Denny Hulme?

Leading until very close to the finish, Ford wanted, for publicity, the 1st & 2nd cars alongside each other, so were instructed to slow and allow the Bruce McLaren / Chris Amon car to draw alongside then they crossed the line......Officials then decided that as the latter car had started further down the grid than the former, it had travelled further so was declared the winner, thus depriving Ken Miles the Daytona - Sebring - Le Mans hat trick that he deserved due to his work as development driver on the GT40 

[CoolBreeze]

Michael Schumacher Silverstone 1999. My heart was in my mouth, as it did remind me of Senna's crash. Luckily he was fine, but no more 1999 WDC. Hard to swallow considering, he was leading the WDC at that time.

 

Felipe Massa Hungary 2008. After such a massive start, and then the engine expired 3 laps to go.

[PayasYouRace]

CoolBreeze, on 25 Jun 2016 - 05:58, said:

Michael Schumacher Silverstone 1999. My heart was in my mouth, as it did remind me of Senna's crash. Luckily he was fine, but no more 1999 WDC. Hard to swallow considering, he was leading the WDC at that time.

 

Felipe Massa Hungary 2008. After such a massive start, and then the engine expired 3 laps to go.

 

He was 2nd at the time. 32 points to Hakkinen's 40.

[CoolBreeze]

^My bad!

[byrkus]

Not sure if it was mentioned before. But it HAS to be mentioned.

 

Jim Clark, Monza 1967.

[PayasYouRace]

byrkus, on 25 Jun 2016 - 17:18, said:

Not sure if it was mentioned before. But it HAS to be mentioned.

 

Jim Clark, Monza 1967.

 

Definitely unlucky after a masterful drive, but it would have denied us the Brabham/Surtess fight for the win at the finish.

[Ev0d3vil]

Vettel getting hit but not breaking anything to end his race. Hamilton getting tapped and retiring. Brazil 2012.

[wrcva]

[f1paul]

The 1 minute silence for Jules Bianchi at last year's Hungarian Grand Prix

[7MGTEsup]

sjakie, on 24 Jun 2016 - 09:09, said:

Mark Blundell and Mauricio Gugelmin both running out of fuel on the last lap at Detroit in 1997, both losing Pac West's first Indycar win

 

There was a silver lining to that as Blundell  won at Portland not long after.

[dierome87]

Papis, Kanaan and Montoya, Michigan 1999.

[messy]

Colin Edwards at Assen circa what, 2004/5? He led going into the final chicane IIRC, then ran off the track. Would have been his first and only MotoGP victory.

[Redzone]

Jim Clark at Monza. 1967.  A great drive beyond compare.

 

 

There re the crashes, but I will save that for another day, except I remember too well my mother's reaction to the news of Bruce McLaren leaving us...

She is not a fan of motor racing, but had met him earlier the year before while she was waiting for me as I went cavorting through the pits at a can-am race.

 

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Edited by Redzone, 27 June 2016 - 19:16.

[Collombin]

Can't help wondering how famous Monza 1967 would be if Graham Hill hadn't retired.

Speaking of which, 1960 British GP.

[teejay]

dierome87, on 27 Jun 2016 - 16:32, said:

Papis, Kanaan and Montoya, Michigan 1999.

 

Wow, literally watched this race last night! 

 

What. An. Ending.

[Henri Greuter]

teejay, on 28 Jun 2016 - 06:34, said:

Wow, literally watched this race last night! 

 

What. An. Ending.

 

 

Maybe to some extend also kind of heartbreaking that of these three drivers two are still active within the current Indycar racing, illustrating the stagnation of influx of younger upcoming new drivers that younger fans can identify themselves with.

 

I know, why retire if you're still at the top of your game but ......

 

 

 

Henri

Edited by Henri Greuter, 28 June 2016 - 10:50.

[swintex]

Jean Alesi, Monza 1994

[alfista]

JHSingo, on 20 Jun 2016 - 11:23, said:

It got me wondering how it compares to other particularly dramatic or heartbreaking moments in this sport. What are some A couple that stand out to me -


This was one that a few people immediately drew comparisons to yesterday. Carlos Sainz was about to win the 1998 World Rally Championship after main rival Tommi Makinen went out early. But then Sainz's engine expired only a few hundred metres from the finish on the last stage.

 

Sainz's co-driver Luis Moya famously threw his helmet through the rear window of their Corolla. I wonder what might have happened had Nakajima tried to do the same on TS050?

And returning to Sainz-Moya, even if the engine had pulled them to the finish of the final SS, they still had to get to the actual finish at rally base. If I am not very much mistaken, it meant some 150 kms.

Edited by alfista, 28 June 2016 - 13:21.

[dierome87]

Henri Greuter, on 28 Jun 2016 - 10:49, said:

Maybe to some extend also kind of heartbreaking that of these three drivers two are still active within the current Indycar racing, illustrating the stagnation of influx of younger upcoming new drivers that younger fans can identify themselves with.

 

I know, why retire if you're still at the top of your game but ......

 

 

 

Henri

 

Yeah, but it's not like a lot of talent has gone to waste because these older drivers are still active. 

 

Bourdais, Power, Pagenaud, Newgarden and Hinchclife (the only truly talented drivers from more recent generations) are still competing anyway...

 

JPM, Kanaan, Castroneves and Bourdais will probably retire within the next two years. It will be interesting to see how those seats will be filled. I expect the standards of driving to go quite Indycar from then on!

[Dan333SP]

dierome87, on 28 Jun 2016 - 14:09, said:

Yeah, but it's not like a lot of talent has gone to waste because these older drivers are still active. 

 

Bourdais, Power, Pagenaud, Newgarden and Hinchclife (the only truly talented drivers from more recent generations) are still competing anyway...

 

JPM, Kanaan, Castroneves and Bourdais will probably retire within the next two years. It will be interesting to see how those seats will be filled. I expect the standards of driving to go quite Indycar from then on!

 

Speaking of Helio, has there ever been any other driver in either the top US open-wheel series or F1 with a longer continuous tenure at the same team? He's now in his 17th consecutive season racing for Penske between CART and IRL/IndyCar. That's mind-boggling. I still sometimes think of him as the newcomer who moved into the Marlboro cars after Moore's tragic accident.

Edited by Dan333SP, 28 June 2016 - 15:43.

[OO7]

messy, on 27 Jun 2016 - 18:17, said:

Colin Edwards at Assen circa what, 2004/5? He led going into the final chicane IIRC, then ran off the track. Would have been his first and only MotoGP victory.

I can't believe it was so long ago!

[Burtros]

1992 BTCC Finale, Cleland vs Harvey vs Hoy. Soper takes Cleland out. Dramatic and heartbreaking.

 

And while we are talking about heartbreak for Toyota, another BTCC memory is a race in 1993. Toyota were heading for their first ever BTCC race win with their drivers running first and second. Until Julian Bailey in second rammed Will Hoy in first place off so hard he ended up upside down and both were out. I think Nissan picked up the peices that day. 

[sopa]

This Le Mans finish surely is up there...

 

In F1 - Clark losing the 1964 championship basically on the last lap must have been pretty dramatic too...

[Rob]

sjakie, on 24 Jun 2016 - 09:09, said:

Mark Blundell and Mauricio Gugelmin both running out of fuel on the last lap at Detroit in 1997, both losing Pac West's first Indycar win

 

It was unlucky at the time, but their luck turned around, so I don't feel too bad about it now! 

 

Blundell won three times that year and Gugelmin took his solitary CART win at Vancouver.

[smr]

McLaren's Formula 1 cars from 2013 to the present day.