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[Prost1997T]

Looks like Honda have the edge so far with Munoz fastest.

[Prost1997T]

Aleshin takes provisional pole with both laps over 220mph.

[Prost1997T]

Sato also over 220. Interesting front row

Edited by Prost1997T, 20 August 2016 - 18:29.

[swintex]

jonpollak, on 20 Aug 2016 - 16:56, said:

I've made my picks based on the names of the Dutch woman's volleyball team.

Jp

Aiming for second then JP?  

 

EDIT FOR IDIOCY: read "Dutch woman's" and got straight to hockey

Edited by swintex, 20 August 2016 - 18:35.

[Prost1997T]

Newgarden on the front row with the second best run.

 

edit: That's it, Aleshin has the pole position and bonus point.

Edited by Prost1997T, 20 August 2016 - 18:51.

[Frood]

I'm back for this race! Which means it won't be an interesting one, as I seemed to have only missed the interesting races this year (Birmingham, Mid-Ohio...). Freshly battered and bruised from my very first competitive motorsports race last weekend (British 24hr kart race). Hasn't dented my enthusiasm for IndyCar though.

 

Also, SATO

[paulb]

Heads up pickers, I've cursed the front row. Just saying! 

[Muppetmad]

I have too.

[Dr. Austin]

Vitesse2, on 20 Aug 2016 - 17:39, said:

The Targa was remarkably fatality-free. But Masetti wasn't the only one - Giovanni Alaotti in 1934, Sergio Der Stepanian in 1958, Fulvio Tandoi in 1971 and Charles Blyth in 1973. Plus Guido Meregalli's riding mechanic in 1922 and three spectators in the 1970s.

 

In contrast, the Mille Miglia claimed sixty - drivers, co-drivers and spectators.

 

That's good work. I googled for an hour and could only find one fatality.

 

I look at today's isle of man, and view it as the motorcycle equivalent of the Targa and the Mille Miglia, if not even more dangerous. Even in the old days with poor safety standards, those were still considered dangerous races.

[Prost1997T]

Stream is up for second practice:

 

[Prost1997T]

Second practice results:

 

[Afterburner]

From Racer:

 

Quote

Pocono Raceway was a scary place Saturday. Juan Montoya, Charlie Kimball and Ryan Hunter-Reay all pounded the wall in morning practice and the wind picked up for qualifying, which made the Tricky Triangle even trickier. It wasn't a place for the faint of heart going into Turn 1.

 

In other words, a perfect scenario for Mikhail Aleshin.

I've said before that Aleshin is a really wild driver–that pole lap must've been absolutely "go-between-them-are-you-crazy" nuts in person.

[MattPete]

swintex, on 20 Aug 2016 - 07:23, said:

Oh, OK

 

I never quite got UFO, Sabbath on the other hand… and I do mean early 70s here.

 

I think I'll stick with Wyatt if you don't mind.

 

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who "got" it.

 

I first read it as "Michael Schenker", er, "Michael Schumacher", wait, I'm confused!

 

 

 

BTW: early 70s Sabbath and late 70s UFO (e.g SITN) are as good as it ever gets.  I love Clapton.  I love EVH.  But Schenker is my man.

[paulb]

MattPete, on 21 Aug 2016 - 02:48, said:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who "got" it.

 

I first read it as "Michael Schenker", er, "Michael Schumacher", wait, I'm confused!

 

 

 

BTW: early 70s Sabbath and late 70s UFO (e.g SITN) are as good as it ever gets.  I love Clapton.  I love EVH.  But Schenker is my man.

Lights Out in London live is a great tune.

[Afterburner]

David Gilmour fan here. Like all of the ones you guys mentioned but that man's guitar speaks to me in places I didn't know I had ears.

(Also, did get your message paul; just been too busy to reply at the moment.)

[Xentas]

I see the picture of Mikhail lifting the P1 award trophy and i can't help but smile at the fact a Russian is beating the Americans in their own championship in America. Delightful to watch, i hope he keeps it for a win in Pocono, that i would love to see.

 

Just hope i didn't jinx his race!

[PayasYouRace]

With a Russian in with a shot of winning I wonder how many top drivers will mysteriously fall ill this evening?

[Risil]

Xentas, on 21 Aug 2016 - 07:52, said:

I see the picture of Mikhail lifting the P1 award trophy and i can't help but smile at the fact a Russian is beating the Americans in their own championship in America. Delightful to watch, i hope he keeps it for a win in Pocono, that i would love to see.

 

Almost every other country already has. After about the 300th occurrence it even seemed to stop being a big deal for the Americans.

[Vitesse2]

Dr. Austin, on 20 Aug 2016 - 20:25, said:

That's good work. I googled for an hour and could only find one fatality.

 

I look at today's isle of man, and view it as the motorcycle equivalent of the Targa and the Mille Miglia, if not even more dangerous. Even in the old days with poor safety standards, those were still considered dangerous races.

Motor Sport Memorial

 

A work which is continually in progress. The search engine only works on names, but if you search by circuit under Madonie (two entries, for the medio and piccolo versions) you'll find all the details. The Mille Miglia ones can be found the same way. Each fatality is - as far as possible - documented with details. Additions and corrections welcomed.

[greenman]

I can understand a sort of unease when it comes to tracks like Pocono - especially a year after a death of a driver. I'm certainly more nervous before a super-speedway race in general, whether it's Pocono, Indy, Fontana, or Texas for that matter, the speeds are just that much higher, and when something goes wrong, it can go very wrong. Still I wouldn't say that Pocono is any more dangerous than other tracks I mentioned. In fact I seem to recall the first two races after its return to go largely without any incident. Maybe something with the aerokits unsettled the cars, I don't know... Because it's true that last year lots of guys lost it by themselves.

 

But anyway, Fontana's had its own share of crashes from '12-'15, including broken bones, Indy had a couple of near misses last year in practice sessions, we saw what happened in Texas this year, and Pocono, unfortunately, had Wilson's death. I wouldn't say it's because it's more dangerous than the others, it just had more bad luck.

 

But superspeedways like this are in the DNA of this series. I want them to be safer and as safe as possible, but at these speeds you can never be 100% safe. But like other guys have said, that's part of the draw...  I don't mean death of course, but the sense of speed and the kind of racing it provides. You know what can happen, but ultimately it's a question of whether you deem the risk acceptable. These drivers obviously do, and it's just a reason more to admire them.

[Peat]

Weather looks poor for this afternoon.

Sigh.

[Muppetmad]

Gahhhh. It looked like the race was going to start at the perfect time for Europeans. Hopefully the rain holds off and we can have a good race.

[greenman]

Crap. It really doesn't look good. At least tomorrow looks dry, but Pocono needs a good attendance and it's not going to happen this way. 

[Disgrace]

Please take the politics to the Paddock Club. It doesn't belong in here and it will be removed.

[Dr. Austin]

Disgrace, on 21 Aug 2016 - 16:16, said:

Please take the politics to the Paddock Club. It doesn't belong in here and it will be removed.

 

My apologies. I did not mean for that to be political.

[prommer]

In this video, the drivers are confronted with the photo of the million-wide restart from last year:

 

[jonpollak]

Disgrace, on 21 Aug 2016 - 16:16, said:

Please take the politics to the Paddock Club. It doesn't belong in here and it will be removed.

So here's my problem with this ...

I think we* deserve special dispensation.

 

I'd love to discuss whatever the Dr. was on about but the Paddock Club is a self-absorbed, circle jerk of mind numbing proportions with the narrowest pool of respondents. I think we are a fairly erudite bunch here in IndyCar Thread World* and can deal with thoughts, perceptions, perceived political blah blah blah or whatever with greater aplomb than your average thread here on Uh Oh Sport dot com.

 

So I say..

"Let 'em All GO"

 

Jp

[OvDrone]

Last year this race was the most fun until tragedy unfortunately struck. First and foremost I hope for a better one this year, and my thoughts are to Justin; rest easy Badass.

 

Having said that I am due some Indycar, it feels like a billion years since the last race. Maybe it's been my own busy August, but man, need me some Indy banter with y'all.

 

I had to resort to watching the bloody MotoGP race on the phone while on the coach earlier today so I wanna chill with a comfy race and some Heinekens. Nigerians on the phone ain't that fun.

Edited by OvDrone, 21 August 2016 - 17:43.

[Lotus72b]

I'm at the track and it's raining. Starting to rain hard.

[Risil]

Was just about to ask.

 

Find some cover Lotus!

[Lotus72b]

It started to drizzle around one. Now it's even raining harder. Why Mother Nature. It was so beautiful on Saturday. Now today!!!!

[Lotus72b]

Risil, on 21 Aug 2016 - 18:16, said:

Was just about to ask.
 I'm in my car right now and watching the rain coming down. Real good!!!!
Find some cover Lotus!

[Muppetmad]

Hopefully it will ease up soon for your sake Lotus!

[Risil]

If they can't get the laps in today there's always next weekend. Bet Josef Newgarden would be keen.

[Lotus72b]

Well I'm parked outside of turn 3 and hearing them doing driver introductions. The sad part about this I think we would've had good crowd today. I take some pictures today and posted on Monday evening or Tuesday.

[jonpollak]

My water says...Monday Monday Monday.
As will Bristol.. (Wouldn't wanna be the NBC Sports programmer today)

Jp

[OvDrone]

It's raining at Pocono AND at Bristol for the Nascar race. Cal Crutchlow won. Something ain't right.

[Muppetmad]

I'm reading that security at the track is telling people that the race has been delayed until tomorrow. Naturally, this shouldn't be taken as gospel.

[HistoryFan]

is there a live stream?

[jonpollak]

Jp

[fridge46]

IndyCar Series ‏@IndyCar 8s8 seconds ago

Due to weather, the #ABCSupply500 @poconoraceway will be postponed until tomorrow. Green flag will be at 12:09PM ET. #INDYCAR

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fridge46, on 20 Aug 2016 - 13:48, said:

Dilemma: IndyCar or Robot Wars

 

Solution: Pray to the weather gods to delay the start by exactly 1 hour.

 

Plan B: Record Robot Wars

 

Sorry guys, Ill take the blame for this one

Edited by fridge46, 21 August 2016 - 19:00.

[Lotus72b]

I'm waiting for twitter.

[OvDrone]

*sigh* I had plans for tomorrow. Races/Heineken tonight, the opposite sex the next. 'tis the ficklest year.

[muramasa]

　

pocono postponed til tomorrow

 

 

too many "o"'s

[Spillage]

Damn. I was looking forward to this.

[Vitesse2]

FAAARK!

[HistoryFan]

fridge46, on 21 Aug 2016 - 18:57, said:

IndyCar Series ‏@IndyCar 8s8 seconds ago

Due to weather, the #ABCSupply500 @poconoraceway will be postponed until tomorrow. Green flag will be at 12:09PM ET. #INDYCAR

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Sorry guys, Ill take the blame for this one

 

what time is it now in Pocono? So 2 hours earlier than today?

 

[ArchieTech]

BT say it will be on at 5pm UK time tomorrow, but cannot confirm channel details yet.

[Nzapper]

Oh well, not much you can do about this.

If it is raining, it is raining.

 

Hope all spectators get home safe and most can come out tomorrow.

[OvDrone]

HistoryFan, on 21 Aug 2016 - 19:01, said:

what time is it now in Pocono? So 2 hours earlier than today?

 

 

Three.