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[GrumpyYoungMan]

What are your predictions for day 1 of the first pre-season test?

Will Mercedes do what they have done for the last few years and go out and clock up over 100 laps...

Will the are Renault cough Tag Heur ERS problem hinder any running?

I couldn't find any other pre season test topics!

Edited by GrumpyYoungMan, 25 February 2017 - 07:46.

[LiftAndCoast]

It won't be the first day, but at some point Force India will do a low fuel glory run, and some people will therefore claim that they start the season as a top 3 team.

[w1Y]

Mercedes will do a lot of laps but won't have the speed. Ferrari wil show signs of speed and so will red bull

Everyone just assumes the pace from merc will come but it never does

Edited by w1Y, 25 February 2017 - 08:51.

[jonpollak]

Hammy crashes on first out lap. Wins title by September

[JIndia]

What are your predictions for day 1 of the first pre-season test?

Will Mercedes do what they have done for the last few years and go out and clock up over 100 laps...

Will the are Renault cough Tag Heur ERS problem hinder any running?

I couldn't find any other pre season test topics!

 

Difficult to say. We don't know which program a team is following. Laptimes, like last year, will tell us something but certainly not everything 

[TheKerb]

At a certain point I foresee a 'Felipe, Fernando is faster than you'. 

Besides that, there will be sandbagging, there will be leak in some car and Honda will announce they are still on the backfoot. 

 

Bring on testing  

[DutchQuicksilver]

Mercedes will be very reliable again, not setting fastest laptimes, sandbagging.
Ferrari will do glory runs, like back in 2014, to cover up that the car is bad.
Haas will be poor.

Something like that.

[Timstr11]

What about Laptime predictions?

1:18:00? Or lower.

[OO7]

What about Laptime predictions?

1:18:00? Or lower.

That looks about ballpark.  Testing times in Barca are usually faster than during the actual GP event, due to cooler temps if I recall correctly.

[LiftAndCoast]

What about Laptime predictions?
1:18:00? Or lower.

Low 1:20s at the first test. They'll break into the teens at Test 2.

Edited by LiftAndCoast, 25 February 2017 - 12:29.

[muramasa]

1:16:737

[TomNokoe]

Really looking forward to it. 1:1x on day 1 please.

[OO7]

Which car, on what lap and which corner of the car will suffer from an exploding Pirelli.

[McLaren]

Which car, on what lap and which corner of the car will suffer from an exploding Pirelli.

 

Ferrari on lap 1 turn 1.

Edited by McLaren, 25 February 2017 - 13:01.

[milestone 11]

Weather looks fair

[Shade]

1. Mercedes racking up a thousand laps and their only concern being what they're gonna have for lunch.

2. Ferrari posting quite the laptimes and giving us false hope.

3. Sponsorless teams going on fumes, though this will probably happen later in the week, just like everyone thought BrawnGP did back in '09.

4. McLaren being very happy with their aero and wanting more from their PU.

5. Sauber's blue looking incredible on track 

 

P.S. Hello! Long time lurker-reader here 

[OO7]

Welcome to the forum Shade .

[muramasa]

日陰

[Timstr11]

日陰

Shade - Shadow 

[f1paul]

The weather looks very dry for next week n Barcelona with the temperatures at around 15 degrees celsius.

As for my predictions, doing hundreds of laps is the key for the first week. I also expect some teams putting 2 drivers in the car on the same day, therefore changing the original test line-up plans. Driver A in the morning and Driver B in the afternoon, or vice versa. 

 

Reliability next week and speed the week after is the way forward IMO

[Marklar]

Will we have for every single day a thread this year?

As for predictions: ominous, doomed, etc.

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

Thursday is planned to be a wet tyre test day next week. Let's hope not for the whole day!

[Maustinsj]

καλωσόρισμα!

[Marklar]

καλωσόρισμα!

I didnt knew that we are testing in Greece this year

[TomNokoe]

As mentioned, I expect Mercedes to stay true to form and only run Hards and Mediums for the entirety of the first week, and then moving to Softs for probably 1 or 2 runs apiece on the final two days.

The only reason I expect this could change is because Pirelli have noted the durability of the tyres this year. Already in Australia they are trying to combat this by bringing the ultra-soft compound.

Will we have a season where every circuit we go to is run one step softer than last year (which seems to have become a trend)?

If so, maybe we will see experimentation from all the teams, as every compound of tyre will be useful for more than one lap.

It will probably be very coy around the top 3.

I suspect the order around McLaren, Williams, Force India, Toro Rosso and Renault to be much more hectic. These teams have less to reveal by topping a timesheet, and will certainly disrupt the order more than once before Melbourne.

I love testing. In the age of information, it's the only remaining part of F1 where none of us really know what's going on. We all see the same laptimes and we all try and corroborate it to our own hunches.

Edited by TomNokoe, 25 February 2017 - 19:56.

[Maustinsj]

I didnt knew that we are testing in Greece this year

 

It's much cheaper than it used to be.

[Shade]

καλωσόρισμα!

Haha good day to you kind sir ;)

[apoka]

3. Sponsorless teams going on fumes, though this will probably happen later in the week, just like everyone thought BrawnGP did back in '09.

Brawn pace was seen as genuine by many I think. I tried to bet on a Brawn WDCs at 1:50 odds but they closed all bets before.

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[FPV GTHO]

I think most of the attention will he on the tyres. How Pirelli have dealt with developing them when the mule cars lacked downforce, whether the backup tyres are brought in straight away, which teams are getting more from them or using different methods to work them.

[Meindlhuemer]

Hello everyone!

 

I would like to ask if someone can tell what the testing procedure is? What are the teams doing the whole day?
I only found this article of gary anderson a while ago: http://www.bbc.com/s...rmula1/21221526

Anyone knows other sources of information ( links, books, ...) or can describe the testing procedure in detail?

 

Thanks in advance and have fun following the test days!

 

[scheivlak]

Brawn pace was seen as genuine by many I think. 

Indeed. First week impressions: 

Alonso: "Brawn pace is real"  http://classic.autos...rt.php/id/73678

Massa: "Brawn pace unreachable" http://classic.autos...rt.php/id/73698

[GrumpyYoungMan]

Hello everyone!

I would like to ask if someone can tell what the testing procedure is? What are the teams doing the whole day?
I only found this article of gary anderson a while ago: http://www.bbc.com/s...rmula1/21221526

Anyone knows other sources of information ( links, books, ...) or can describe the testing procedure in detail?

Thanks in advance and have fun following the test days!

No one knows what they do exactly, only the teams, but given the new found freedoms and tight testing and race schedule I would say as many laps as possible every day, I wouldn't be surprised to see driver changes throughout the day as well if they are on course for 100+ laps....

Edited by GrumpyYoungMan, 26 February 2017 - 17:51.

[lio007]

Do any of you know a good Live Timing site for the preseason tests?

[FullOppositeLock]

F1today.net will do one and has a photographer on site, as the did last year. F1i.com did a good one as well last year, plus text updates from BBC and Sky F1.

[Marklar]

Do any of you know a good Live Timing site for the preseason tests?

Copy & paste from last year

Autosport
F1today
BBC
ESPN
Sky
Motorsport.com
Crash.net
F1i
AMuS (German)
SoyMotor (Spanish)
FormulaPassion (Italian)
Eurosport (French)
F1-direct (French)

I recommend the first few on this list. AMuS and SoyMotor are great for stint times

Last year the official F1 app was also offering a real live timing IIRC. Dont know if this is again the case.

Also, that is the link for the IRC channel as the Autosport Live Chat seems to be stil not back...

https://kiwiirc.com/....com/atlasf1/"]

Edited by Marklar, 26 February 2017 - 19:15.

[BuddyHolly]

Merc 100+ laps on day 1

Ferrari to do 20-40 laps with intermittent issues

McLaren to break down after 5-8 laps (unless it gets a little windy around turn 3 ;))

Williams in the/a wall before the day ends

Haas to splutter around and get only 14-18 laps in total

[Szoelloe]

Mercedes will go out in the morning and from then on, 150 laps/day

McLaren will blow an engine within 15 laps and be done with it for the day.

Red Bull will do 3-5 lap runs every 60 minutes and finish an hour early

Williams will be running a solid 100+ laps with massa

Renault and Toro Rosso will blow an engine the first day

Ferrari will blow an engine and/or catch fire on track

Haas will run 70 laps without problems

So will Sauber

 

wait.... uhmm, I have no clue. Maybe the first line about Merc could be true. The rest is a joke.

[thegamer23]

F1 2017 is starting tomorrow. Colour me excited

[Marklar]

Via Albert Fabrega

 

 

(order between the Mercedes drivers on all days except of the first stil unknown)

Edited by Marklar, 26 February 2017 - 19:53.

[Markn93]

Makes sense for Merc to split each day. If Bottas were to lose a day over something technical going wrong it could be catastrophic.

I'd imagine tomorrow am he'll be doing systems checks and learning procedures which an engineer on one of the Merc videos pointed out he wasn't familiar with yet.

Expect some stints then from Lewis in the afternoon is my guess.

[Motorbreath]

Makes sense for Merc to split each day. If Bottas were to lose a day over something technical going wrong it could be catastrophic.

I'd imagine tomorrow am he'll be doing systems checks and learning procedures which an engineer on one of the Merc videos pointed out he wasn't familiar with yet.

Expect some stints then from Lewis in the afternoon is my guess.

 

They did the same thing last year, I dont know about 2015 and before though.

[Marklar]

They did the same thing last year, I dont know about 2015 and before though.

They weren't doing this in the first few days last year, but as they did an insane mileage on all days, particulary on one with Rosberg (something like 180 laps) they decided after he felt sore to better split the test days. That they are doing this this year again indicates to me that they are planning to run a lot again (or they are unsure about how the new forces are impacting the drivers)

[Hellenic tifosi]

Mercedes' plan makes sense - seems to me that every team should follow it. The only downside is the need to change seats during the lunch break, but in any case it is worth it I think.

 

In other news, arent't the pre season tests an excellent opportunity for the F1 App to provide free coverage, so as to promote the paid services offered during the season? I would have thought that Liberty would have been more active in providing testing coverage.

[9nelson]

What time is green light?

[TomNokoe]

What time is green light?

0900 CET

10 hours 12 mins

Edited by TomNokoe, 26 February 2017 - 21:49.

[w1Y]

Isn't it usually 8am

[FullOppositeLock]

Was 9am-6pm CET last year IIRC

[Marklar]

Isn't it usually 8am

8 GMT, 9 CET
 

Was 9am-6pm CET last year IIRC

Correct. Lunch break is from 1 pm - 2pm CET

Edit: http://www.circuitca...-days/schedule/

Edited by Marklar, 26 February 2017 - 22:12.

[HeadFirst]

As the covers are taken off the new Toro Rosso, a number of onlookers will throw up.