141 replies to this topic

[SB]

jonpollak, on 04 Apr 2017 - 16:21, said:

Race coincides with Yulin Festival...empty grandstands guaranteed.

Jp

 

Got nothing related to Yulin Festival whatsover, F1 itself is no longer a popular / trendy event to take part for local Chinese for some time already. So empty grandstands are guaranteed anyway.

[thegamer23]

SB, on 05 Apr 2017 - 06:31, said:

No they are different although some characters looks similar / same.

Japanese Kanji is inspired from the Chinese characters ("Kanji" actually means "Chinese words") set at around 600-900 A.D ( Tang dynasty in China )
The Chinese characters keeps evolved itself throughout next 1000 years and become the "Traditional Chinese" which is still the primary written language in Taiwan and Hong Kong.
On the other hand, after the PRC starts ruling the mainland China in 1949. The government has set up a new set of characters (aiming for less strokes) which is known as "Simplified Chinese" and used inside China, as well as Singapore and other Chinese societies in S.E. Asia.

Beware that while "Traditional Chinese" and "Simplified Chinese" would be interchangeable, some ( superset ) Chinese characters may have the same writing as Japanese Kanji however Chinese version could have different ( some even in opposite ) meaning from the Japanese one.

Thanks for that, very clear!

[Marklar]

Again two parts and again with Vettel

 

[Nonesuch]

 

Onto a more on-topic point; beware of Stroll on Friday:

 

Quote

 

“After Melbourne, which is a narrow track, I am going to change my approach a bit as it is a little more forgiving with the large run off areas.”

 

https://www.motorspo...nd-prix-889856/

 

Edited by PayasYouRace, 06 April 2017 - 07:43.

[Kristian]

Nonesuch, on 05 Apr 2017 - 14:36, said:

 

 

Onto a more on-topic point; beware of Stroll on Friday:

 

 

 

This is what pains me about the asphalt era of F1 - drivers openly saying its a lot easier as they can just use the runoff. 

 

Its a lot more impressive seeing drivers ramp up towards their limit and the best will push the envelope, rather than drivers going straight over the limit and coming back down from that. 

[RECKLESS]

Strolling off alotta times in FP's then.

[ANF]

CIRCUIT NOTES

► The track has been resurfaced across the start line to remove the bump that had developed.
► Additional tyres have been installed in parts of the barriers at Turns One and Eight.
► Grass-crete has been laid around Turn Two between the track and asphalt run-off.
► Additional ‘combination’ kerb elements have been installed behind the existing kerbs at Turns Two, Three and 12. These new elements are 50mm higher than the existing kerbs and are approximately 3m long and 1m wide.

From http://www.fia.com/e...-information-27

[Kristian]

ANF, on 05 Apr 2017 - 15:24, said:

CIRCUIT NOTES

► The track has been resurfaced across the start line to remove the bump that had developed.
 

 

Boo. That was starting to give the track character. 

[thegamer23]

Good news about the grass around Turn 2: 
 

I think Shanghai is one of the best circuits of the modern generation. 

It is challenging for the drivers & produced good racing almost every year 

 

Very much looking forward to it

Edited by thegamer23, 05 April 2017 - 15:35.

[ANF]

thegamer23, on 05 Apr 2017 - 15:34, said:

Good news about the grass around Turn 2: 
 
I think Shanghai is one of the best circuits of the modern generation. 
It is challenging for the drivers & produced good racing almost every year 
 
Very much looking forward to it

I'm not sure there will be any grass though. I think grass-crete is the stones that look like this:



And I think they're often just painted and placed behind the kerb without any grass underneath.

They're probably more slippery than tarmac anyway, so that's good.

[Muppetmad]

Grass-crete?

[Marklar]

ANF, on 05 Apr 2017 - 15:58, said:

I'm not sure there will be any grass though. I think grass-crete is the stones that look like this:



And I think they're often just painted and placed behind the kerb without any grass underneath.

They're probably more slippery than tarmac anyway, so that's good.

Yep

(via Albert Fabrega)

[DanardiF1]

Nonesuch, on 04 Apr 2017 - 16:31, said:

Buemi's crash was in 2010? Oh my...

 

The lap here always feel really short. Not sure why.

 

It's given us some interesting races in the past, so hopefully this year will also be a more engaging than the race in Australia was.

 

It is a short lap of 'proper' track, it's just there is a massive straight plonked in to make up the rest of the distance.

[Atreiu]

I'm not a fan of the track, but maybe it is wide and fast enough to suit these cars and allow some good racing.

 

But I'd sure be happier with a wet race. 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010; they were all outstanding GPs.

[Peat]

Kristian, on 04 Apr 2017 - 14:39, said:

However, this Tilkedrome might have an unfair reputation, as its had some humdinger moments in the past - not to mention the 161 overtakes last year. Will we get there this year with the new regs?!

 

Ooh golly! I can't wait to see that chap press that button and drive past the other chap on the straight. #awe #gladiatorial

Edited by Peat, 05 April 2017 - 16:52.

[Fomalhaut]

It seems rain is a possibility for this weekend. This came back to my memory:

 

Alonso + R26 in the wet, a perfect combination

 

[TomNokoe]

Air temperature for the race forecast between 12-16°C brRRRrRRrr!

[Laster]

Rain? Yes please. Dry is always good for having a clear idea where each team is at, but Melbourne was such a boring race a wet race would be an ideal tonic.

[MikeV1987]

161 overtakes last year and I don't remember a single one. Quality over quantity pls, never was a fan of the cheese tires and DRS flybys.

Edited by MikeV1987, 05 April 2017 - 19:54.

[Salming]

Marklar, on 04 Apr 2017 - 22:05, said:

Red Bull perhaps? I mean we didnt saw them with these cars under these conditions yet.

 

I don't think they have the right balance, and a tad shy on the downforce compared to Merc and Ferrari. That's the impression I got from Melbourne anyway.

[ANF]

MikeV1987, on 05 Apr 2017 - 19:51, said:

161 overtakes last year and I don't remember a single one. Quality over quantity pls, never was a fan of the cheese tires and DRS flybys.

I found these:


How ridiculous is the first corner anyway?

[Vettelari]

Somehow the rain will just miss us like the forecasted rain for Singapore the last few years.

Cloud seeding anyone?

[Neno]

Fomalhaut, on 05 Apr 2017 - 17:04, said:

It seems rain is a possibility for this weekend. This came back to my memory:

 

Alonso + R26 in the wet, a perfect combination

 

ah good old days 

[Kelateboy]

Peat, on 05 Apr 2017 - 16:52, said:

Ooh golly! I can't wait to see that chap press that button and drive past the other chap on the straight. #awe #gladiatorial

 

I prefer China to say Monaco where you press buttons after buttons and nothing happen except for a safety car....

[Wuzak]

SB, on 05 Apr 2017 - 06:41, said:

Got nothing related to Yulin Festival whatsover, F1 itself is no longer a popular / trendy event to take part for local Chinese for some time already. So empty grandstands are guaranteed anyway.

 

Was it ever popular?

 

I can't ever remember full grand stands - maybe the first year?

[Wuzak]

ANF, on 05 Apr 2017 - 15:58, said:

I'm not sure there will be any grass though. I think grass-crete is the stones that look like this:



And I think they're often just painted and placed behind the kerb without any grass underneath.

They're probably more slippery than tarmac anyway, so that's good.

 

I think grass-crete is concrete painted green. At least in F1 circles

 

http://www.f1fanatic...69614506160.jpg.

[SB]

Wuzak, on 06 Apr 2017 - 02:41, said:

Was it ever popular?

 

I can't ever remember full grand stands - maybe the first year?

 

Yes it was trendy social event in the first couple of seasons -- Olympic medalists, celebrities and government officials who have no idea about motor-racing have filled full in the VIP boxes, also those nothing-to-see stands in turn 11/12/13 were filled with ordinary people  .

[RedBaron]

Watching the drivers walking about the paddock trying to find their way to the press conference in the pouring rain is very entertaining.

 

Testing a new new on board camera too

 

Edited by RedBaron, 06 April 2017 - 07:35.

[wj_gibson]

Drivers who could do with a good weekend (in rank order):

 

1. Kevin Magnussen 

2. Jolyon Palmer (especially as he's spent the last week implying a chassis error was the root cause of his Melbourne struggles - best prove that this weekend in that case)

3. Kimi Raikkonen

 

You could maybe add Stroll but I think he can be forgiven some of the over-exuberance of being an 18 year old for now.

[Ruusperi]

The practice sessions look quite wet as well. You would expect the teams are keen to test the wet weather tyres tomorrow, since Barcelona testing was almost worthless.

But since F1 teams always act irrationally, they probably wont' go out to the track at all. And then complain during the race about the conditions and being unprepared.

[thegamer23]

So, rain for both tomorrow practice, sunny quali & wet race?

Should be mixed as hell

[blacky]

thegamer23, on 06 Apr 2017 - 08:39, said:

So, rain for both tomorrow practice, sunny quali & wet race?

Should be mixed as hell

 

Typical F1 weather I would guess. Wet in practice sessions, therefor barely laps because of dry predictions for quali and rain on sunday only in the morning...

[Niceone]

thegamer23, on 06 Apr 2017 - 08:39, said:

So, rain for both tomorrow practice, sunny quali & wet race?

Should be mixed as hell

Let's hope it stays dry..or we're in to a long safety car + red flag sessions..

[SB]

SB, on 05 Apr 2017 - 06:06, said:

Local weather forecast (Chinese language) , but u can still got the idea from the weather icon and date in numeric.

 

http://www.smb.gov.c...ex.html#fiveday

 

Updated at 4 Apr afternoon:

Sat : "cloudy" then "few drops of rain"

Sun : "few drops of rain" then "raining"

 

 

Updated at 6 Apr morning :

 

Fri : "light rain" throughout the day

Sat : "some rain" throughout the day

Sun : "few drops of rain" then  "cloudy"

[cotecine]

F1 2017 - Chinese GP - Drivers Press Conference - Part 1

https://youtu.be/oQdZhQ7SNS8

 

F1 2017 - Chinese GP - Drivers Press Conference - Part 2

https://youtu.be/U2X3AYMZ6F8

Edited by cotecine, 06 April 2017 - 09:32.

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

cotecine, on 06 Apr 2017 - 09:31, said:

F1 2017 - Chinese GP - Drivers Press Conference - Part 1

https://youtu.be/oQdZhQ7SNS8

 

 

Seb and Nico chatting towards the end at 22:09

 

"More than 100kg heavier..."

"Those things[cars] ar too heavy, much too heavy..."

[Seanspeed]

TomNokoe, on 04 Apr 2017 - 17:26, said:

Just wait for this years cars to tackle the sweepers in the middle sector!

Turn 7 is going to be flat out, at least for the better cars.  

 

Will be fun for drivers, but reduces the effect the corner has on the competition, which will be a shame.  

 

MikeV1987, on 05 Apr 2017 - 19:51, said:

161 overtakes last year and I don't remember a single one. Quality over quantity pls, never was a fan of the cheese tires and DRS flybys.

DRS is fine here, they just need to get rid of it on the back straight.  It's just not needed and if a driver doesn't stick a pass there, it conveniently allows drivers to get too easily setup for a DRS run on the main straight.  

 

This rigid requirement to have two sections at every track is silly in general.  If this place didn't have that pointless kink of a Turn 5, that run up to Turn 6 would have been a good spot, though.  

[johnmhinds]

They painted the drivers names in the pitlane which is pretty cool:

 

 

But then it rained, doh!:

 

[rjsports]

Looks even cooler now!

[Marklar]

johnmhinds, on 06 Apr 2017 - 10:32, said:

Somehow this pic is fitting.

[Jvr]

These guys have been very accurate:

https://www.yr.no/pl...nghai/long.html

 

Dry qualification, rain over night, expecting to stop just before the race.

Edited by Jvr, 06 April 2017 - 11:08.

[ruimig]

Ruusperi, on 06 Apr 2017 - 08:35, said:

The practice sessions look quite wet as well. You would expect the teams are keen to test the wet weather tyres tomorrow, since Barcelona testing was almost worthless.

But since F1 teams always act irrationally, they probably wont' go out to the track at all. And then complain during the race about the conditions and being unprepared.

 

Unfortunately, that's one of the consequences of having to make an engine last 4 GP weekends...

[Jerem]

cotecine, on 06 Apr 2017 - 09:31, said:

F1 2017 - Chinese GP - Drivers Press Conference - Part 1

https://youtu.be/oQdZhQ7SNS8

 

F1 2017 - Chinese GP - Drivers Press Conference - Part 2

https://youtu.be/U2X3AYMZ6F8

Vettel sounding a lot like Kimi there, starting every sentence with 'boah'...

[Lotus53B]

cotecine, on 06 Apr 2017 - 09:31, said:

F1 2017 - Chinese GP - Drivers Press Conference - Part 1

https://youtu.be/oQdZhQ7SNS8

 

F1 2017 - Chinese GP - Drivers Press Conference - Part 2

https://youtu.be/U2X3AYMZ6F8

I've stopped watching the Press Conferences - they're too much like PR exercises...

[EthanM]

ruimig, on 06 Apr 2017 - 11:17, said:

Unfortunately, that's one of the consequences of having to make an engine last 4 GP weekends...

 

5 weekends this season

[ruimig]

EthanM, on 06 Apr 2017 - 11:24, said:

5 weekends this season

Then it will be even worse!

Probably, by mid season, drivers will only perform parade laps during the free practices to please the sponsors, with all the testing being done in simulators!

Edited by ruimig, 06 April 2017 - 11:31.

[CoolBreeze]

Even the paint is crying for Alonso. There's no other sign to show this guy's career is pretty much done

[CoolBreeze]

Lotus53B, on 06 Apr 2017 - 11:22, said:

I've stopped watching the Press Conferences - they're too much like PR exercises...

 

Cue Hamilton's podium speech....'first of all I would like to thanks the fans, they are amazing...and then I would like to say congratulations to Seb for winning...etc etc..'

[ArrowsLivery]

I am hoping for dry weather. There is next to no racing in the wet anymore due to Charlie Whiting and some of the drivers who like to complain about how "undrivable" it is.

Edited by ArrowsLivery, 06 April 2017 - 11:54.

[Kristian]

ArrowsLivery, on 06 Apr 2017 - 11:53, said:

I am hoping for dry weather. There is next to no racing in the wet anymore due to Charlie Whiting and some of the drivers who like to complain about how "undrivable" it is.

 

Maybe with more downforce it will be better. 

 

All depends on Pirelli, I guess. 

Edited by Kristian, 06 April 2017 - 12:00.