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[rootten]

I very much hope for those numbers to come true

[Alburaq]

https://youtu.be/Uu5IgVB9dUk?t=162

"They know that Renault have made significant gains over this winter with the power unit side, in all areas of the power unit side"

 

And the aero problems he's talking about seem to be quite similar te the ones Renault had in 2018... and both cars have classic and not-swept-backaward sidepods... They even have/had an "aerocat" shaped sidepod deflector, amongst some other aero similarities...
 

Edited by Alburaq, 10 January 2019 - 15:09.

[Alburaq]

Budowski

Daniel is a super enthusiastic person who will push the team. He will impose his motivation by his personality, his speed, but also because he believes in the project. It's an amazing boost. We know what we have in preparation and that's what we sold him: this is what we do, this is what we're going to do, this is what we do well, this is what we do not good. "We are here, we want to get there, do you want to be part of the adventure?" That's the question we asked him. He took that risk, as Schumacher, Alonso and Hamilton actually took it before him because they did not arrive in teams that were winning. His satisfaction will be all the greater if the coming years prove him right. It's another thing to arrive in a stable that is already winning. I think he was seduced by this prospect and, concerning us, so much the better if it puts us an extra pressure to get out the car that will allow him to shine.

At Enstone, we see these amenities as an opportunity because changing the front of the car fundamentally changes the aero deal. Today, the stables that are ahead do better than us in this area, and as we all take a step back, we potentially have more to gain. That's the opportunity. The risk is that this regulation, which has evolved in recent months and was frozen at the last moment, gives a premium to the best interpretation. It will be even more true in 2021 with, on the Renault side, a roadmap which, in theory, should allow us to play the title and, on the regulations side, a major technical change in terms of the design of the car, tires, etc. This will be a new opportunity at a time when we will have the right organization in place with the right level of experience and stability to face this challenge. In theory this will put us in an ideal position to deploy what we have built for five years. "

 

We are not working in the short term, we are not only hiring experienced people but mostly young people coming out of university, apprentices. We invest in the future. We are not in the immediate result, we are still rebuilding the team. We could have done better last year if the short term had been our goal, but it is to build a team able to be world champion that interests us. After three years of construction, three years of attack are beginning! To the question: '' Did we do last year the best job in terms of car development? '', The answer is no. Our progress has been inherently worse than in 2017 and we are aware of it. It drives us to change things in the way we operate. There is a bit of disappointment in not being able to get closer to Top 3, but we must not forget that we are talking about "catching up"; which means to develop faster and put more performance in the car than Mercedes, Ferrari or Red Bull. These are teams of 900 people with very high budgets. Above all, they have been in place for years. They have created a strong infrastructure and stability, and they capitalize on these assets. It's hard to hire - about 100 people last year - and at the same time perform better than them on a season. It puts things in perspective. With a constant engine, we developed as fast as Red Bull in 2018 we would have liked to do more, but it is necessary to relativize the size of the challenge.

 

 

 

Edited by Alburaq, 10 January 2019 - 20:00.

[DILLIGAF]

If the engine makes 50hp more but fails a few times, I think Renault would be happy enough for 2019. Would at least make them take the odd podium which would be massive against the big 3.

Good signs ahead.

Agree. So it appears that they have found the ponies but the turbo bearings can't cope.

For the coming season I'll be happy if Renault can halve the gap to the frontrunners, not get lapped during races and get through the season only using 4 or 5 PUs. Preseason testing should be interesting for Renault, and Honda for that matter.

[DILLIGAF]

"There is a bit of disappointment in not being able to get closer to Top 3, but we must not forget that we are talking about "catching up"; which means to develop faster and put more performance in the car than Mercedes, Ferrari or Red Bull. These are teams of 900 people with very high budgets. Above all, they have been in place for years. They have created a strong infrastructure and stability, and they capitalize on these assets. It's hard to hire - about 100 people last year - and at the same time perform better than them on a season. It puts things in perspective. With a constant engine, we developed as fast as Red Bull in 2018 we would have liked to do more, but it is necessary to relativize the size of the challenge."

Glad to see Budkowski making realistic statements about Renault's prospects in the short term. Cyril could learn a thing or two from him.

Edited by DILLIGAF, 10 January 2019 - 22:31.

[Reddington]

Glad to see Budkowski making realistic statements about Renault's prospects in the short term. Cyril could learn a thing or two from him.

 

Amen! Budkowski is using common sense instead of wishful thinking. Definitely a good addition to the team. Pay attention Cyril!

[Neno]

"There is a bit of disappointment in not being able to get closer to Top 3, but we must not forget that we are talking about "catching up"; which means to develop faster and put more performance in the car than Mercedes, Ferrari or Red Bull. These are teams of 900 people with very high budgets. Above all, they have been in place for years. They have created a strong infrastructure and stability, and they capitalize on these assets. It's hard to hire - about 100 people last year - and at the same time perform better than them on a season. It puts things in perspective. With a constant engine, we developed as fast as Red Bull in 2018 we would have liked to do more, but it is necessary to relativize the size of the challenge."

Glad to see Budkowski making realistic statements about Renault's prospects in the short term. Cyril could learn a thing or two from him.

problem isnt developing race. problem is car they make over winter during a break. that car is second and half slower in winter over RB car when it hit test track. that's itself is inexcusable. 

 

developing car over season = good job Renault

making new car over winter = horrible job Renault 

 

I am looking specifically into this year tests to look is this problem solved or we continuously false hoping  we will "catch up" top teams over season in development race. Which will happen never for already specified reasons in that quote. 

Edited by Neno, 11 January 2019 - 11:25.

[Alburaq]

They didn't do a "horrible job" during the winter, they took a decision: to build a conservative car, an evolution of the 2017 one, and they paid the price*. Was that decision good or bad? we dont know, if that decision helped them focus on the 2019 car and build a fast one then they took a very good decision. 
*the decision wasn't very bad because the price they paid wasn't that painful; they've succeeded to finish p4, their primary objective.

Maybe they felt they weren't ready yet to build a fully new concept, to revolutionize their design, like Williams or Sauber did, and chose to wait and build the foundations first, like Mclaren, STR or FI did... 

"But we wanted to be fourth, or the best after the top three, and we wanted to be closer to them. It's very difficult to manage that, because we took a decision to prepare for next season in the best way, not to develop too much, especially around the engine.
"So in fact we've done exactly what we wanted to do so far. Now the next step is next season to be closer to the top teams."
Prost 
https://www.motorspo...-prost/4321854/

We could have done better last year if the short term had been our goal

Edited by Alburaq, 11 January 2019 - 03:51.

[rootten]

https://youtu.be/Uu5IgVB9dUk?t=162

"They know that Renault have made significant gains over this winter with the power unit side, in all areas of the power unit side"

 

And the aero problems he's talking about seem to be quite similar te the ones Renault had in 2018... and both cars have classic and not-swept-backaward sidepods... They even have/had an "aerocat" shaped sidepod deflector, amongst some other aero similarities...
 

 

Who is this guy?

[Alburaq]

Who is this guy?

Ex Mclaren mechanic and presenter. YouTuber. Commentator (Sky sports and other channels). Author. Speaker. : )

Edited by Alburaq, 11 January 2019 - 11:07.