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#1 PayasYouRace

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 16:12

Welcome to Pocono for our summer holiday 500 mile race. It's round 14 of the IndyCar Series this year, and the 12th circuit (due to Indy and Detroit holding two races each). It's also the last superspeedway of the year.

 

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Seeing as we're in the school holidays, I've prepared a lesson plan so the kids don't get too out of practice.

 

The two day timetable is as follows.

(Times are in Eastern time. Add 5 for UK and 6 for Central Europe, etc.)

 

Saturday 18th August

1030-1130 Practice 1

1330-1445 Qualifying

1645-1745 Practice 2

 

Sunday 19th August

1405 Race (200 laps)

 

Period 1: Geography

 

Pocono Raceway is located in the Pocono Mountains. It is near a place called Long Pond, which according to wikipedia is home to "racially diverse, and mostly married couples". It is located near the future southern boarder of Sylvania, near the Penn Republic. These lie on the eastern portion of the Kingdom of Mad King Donald.

 

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Homework: Write a 450 word essay on the influence of Rob Ramos on the local area.

 

Period 2: Maths

 

We'll start of with a bit of Geometry. Pocono is a triangular shape oval track. It is well known that the triangle is a basis for some of the world's greatest racing circuits. Spa-Francorchamps, Reim and Knockhill have all been based on a roughly triangular shape layout of roads. Pocono also takes the Magny-Cours approach of having it's turns based on turns from other, great circuits that existed at the time it was built. Fortunately two are still with us. Turn 1 was based on Trenton, Turn 2 aka the Tunnel Turn was based on Indy and Turn 3 on the Milwaukee Mile.

 

Here is a track map:

 

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The Pocono 500 will of course be using the oval configuration. It is a 4.023 km (2.5 mile) long circuit, and it's also wide enough that 7 wide racing is possible.

 

On to some statistics. The current championship standings are as follows:

 

  1. Scott Dixon 494
  2. Alex Rossi 448
  3. Josef Newgarden 434
  4. Will Power 407
  5. Ryan Hunter-Reay 399
  6. Robert Wickens 380
  7. Simon Pagenaud 344
  8. Graham Rahal 335
  9. James Hinchcliffe 328
  10. Sebastien Bourdais 293
  11. Marco Andretti 285
  12. Takuma Sato 258
  13. Ed Jones 255
  14. Spencer Pigot 239
  15. Tony Kanaan 227
  16. Charlie Kimball 212
  17. Zach Veach 211
  18. Matt Leist 182
  19. Max Chilton 162
  20. Gabby Chaves 158
  21. Ed Carpenter 148
  22. Jordan King 126
  23. Zachary Claman 122
  24. to 37. Anyone who hasn't scored 100 points.

 

This season has been characterised by the battle between veterans such as Scott Dixon, Will Power and Ryan Hunter-Reay and the new Young AmericansTM Alex Rossi and reigning champion Josef Newgarden. Plus we've seen ever more promising performances from Robert Wickens and surely a first win can't be far away.

 

Homework: List all the IndyCar Series circuits in order of internal area.

 

Break Time

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Typical. On her phone as soon as possible.

 

 

Period 3: History

 

Pocono has had two lives in the IndyCar Series. It's first life was often as part of a 500 mile Triple Crown (put your hand down Fernando!). The race was run from 1971 to 1989. The circuit had fallen into disrepair, and was considered dangerous with metal barriers and cracked tarmac. IndyCar's official youtube channel has uploaded the 1988 for us to study.

 

 

The circuit came back to the series in 2013, and since then has seen highs and terrible lows. In 2014, Juan Pablo Montoya took his first win on his return to the series, bulding towards a championship challenge in 2015. But the 2015 race was marred by the tragic death of Justin Wilson late in the race. His was one of many to influence most open wheel series to increase the driver's head protection.

 

Homework: Find the last common ancestor of all of the current IndyCar drivers.

 

Lunch

 

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When you said you were having a light lunch, I pictured something else.

 

Period 4: Science

 

Now for some physics. This year saw the debut of the new sexier universal body kit for Indycars. The reduced downforce generated from upper body aerodynamics coupled with a greater reliance on underbody shaping has resulted in a car that can produce great racing on road and street coursed. However, the speedway version of the body kit struggled to produce great racing at Indianapolis, which is a worry because Pocono is theoretically like Indy. Long straights are joined by fairly flat turns, so you need cars that can follow closely in the latter to slipstream each other on the former. So much so that Will Power and Scott Dixon were recently testing at Indy to determine how to develop the car for next year. Not that it was particularly bad this year, but it wasn't as good as previous years, so the pressure is on to do something.

 

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What can we expect from Pocono? It's hard to say, but hopefully we'll see some good competitive racing. Pocono has generally been a good race since its return to IndyCar, so hopefully it continues.

 

Homework: Calculate the Reynolds Number of an Indycar on an average lap of Pocono.

 

Home Time

 

That's it for today kids! Make sure you also make your fantasy league picks and enjoy the race!

 

ETA: Spotter Guide link https://digbza2f4g9q...0180815T203711Z



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#2 PiperPa42

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 16:30

Great OP PAYR, however you missed this picture :p

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#3 maximilian

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 18:09

Always one of the races I look forward the MOST each year!  :love:  :love:  :love:   Can't wait!

 


Edited by maximilian, 15 August 2018 - 18:10.


#4 f1paul

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 19:22

Too much homework teacher!   :D

 

Then again, there's never enough IndyCar. :)



#5 jonpollak

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 21:54

Schoolmarm rocks. !!!

#6 stewie

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 22:39

Great OP PAYR, however you missed this picture :p
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I do miss the 2012-14 speedway aero kit, I always thought it looked great with the little bat wing wheel flicks!

#7 jonpollak

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 22:47

Whoo boy..... Dredge up that 2013 thread. I'd wanna be there this Sunday. Picks in.

#8 rghojai

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 04:47

who is Rob Ramos?



#9 teejay

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 05:08

Go Monty!



#10 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 07:57

who is Rob Ramos?


According to Wikipedia, the only notable person from Long Pond.

#11 Frood

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 11:58

We triangle now!

#12 LeClerc

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 18:55

We triangle now!


That reminds of a good time I had once on Corfu.

Fitting as Greece has made great contributions to geometry, I thought.

#13 jonpollak

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 21:20

Sad news ... My friend and Al Jr's ex wife Shelley has died. https://racer.com/20...ley-unser-dies/

#14 B Squared

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 09:37

Sad news ... My friend and Al Jr's ex wife Shelley has died. https://racer.com/20...ley-unser-dies/

Thanks for posting this Jp; I saw it earlier today and was quite surprised. She was a fixture at the races during my time with CART and had the opportunity to talk to her and Junior a few times over the years. RIP Shelley, and condolences to family and friends.

#15 maximilian

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 11:29

Who thinks Fernando might put in a cameo appearance in the Pocono paddock this weekend?  :wave:



#16 Peat

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 11:39

Even if he does the opening stint at the SIlverstone6hr and has a private jet waiting on site, he won't make it in time....



#17 paulb

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 11:40

Sad news about Shelly Unser. My prayers and condolences to Al Jr and the family.



#18 Myrvold

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 12:09

Here is a track map:

 

pocono_2_5_clockwise_chicane.jpg

The Pocono 500 will of course be using the oval configuration. It is a 4.023 km (2.5 mile) long circuit, and it's also wide enough that 7 wide racing is possible.

 

Have they managed to make an infield road course at the same length as the oval? That's actually quite impressive!



#19 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 12:20

Have they managed to make an infield road course at the same length as the oval? That's actually quite impressive!


I would appear so. I only made one change to the map and it wasn’t the length.

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#20 jonpollak

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 13:15

Uhhh...Hold on a cotton pickin' minute here.

 

That track map...?

 

The back straight between 1 and 2 is called.....WHAT?

 

Jp



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 13:18

Even if he does the opening stint at the SIlverstone6hr and has a private jet waiting on site, he won't make it in time....

 

Excellent point!  :lol:



#22 jonpollak

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 13:40

I hope someone gets my last post.

 

Anyway..

Here's a stroll down Pocono Memory Lane... ALL the way back to 2013

 

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Jp


Edited by jonpollak, 17 August 2018 - 13:42.


#23 paulb

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 16:21

I miss not having Friday practice.



#24 Andrew Hope

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 16:23

I want one joker lap of the road course.

In it's proper direction.

#25 Frood

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 16:50

Pagenaud is stealth this weekend:

 

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#26 Muppetmad

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 16:56

I've intentionally avoided picking Pagenaud, so he should be in for a good weekend!



#27 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 17:00

I made some picks last week and I've forgotten exactly who now. I tried to play it safe.

 

That's a classy livery for Pagenaud.

 

Spotter Guide linked at bottom of OP.



#28 jonpollak

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 22:02

Once again.. Track map.. Back straight called ???

#29 PayasYouRace

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 22:14

Were you not here for the 2015 thread JP? I've only just recycled the joke from last time.



#30 jonpollak

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 22:20

Well I'm slow and 3 years late then.

#31 prommer

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 23:26

Looks I'll be making the same kind of cameo for this race as I did in 2013 (no posts til the last page!!) because I'm working that day. Will someone do a lap number count so I can check this thread as I'm watching it on delay? Ta very mooch.

 

So nice to see how many of us are still around five years after 2013. But I'm always surprised that some people who were Indycar thread regulars have disappeared. Hasn't Indycar gotten better and better and more entertaining each year?  We're getting a WDC next year for chrissakes! In 2013 we were lucky to get Aleshin in a basket!  The future is rosy!



#32 paulb

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 00:47

Once again.. Track map.. Back straight called ???

quite appropriate for this crowd.

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 10:59

THANK YOU...Ms. Backstraight !

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So here's your Saturday HughTuube coverage.

1st pracky at the tricky tracky is @ 15:30 BST

 

Jp



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Posted 18 August 2018 - 11:51

I hope someone gets my last post.

 

Anyway..

Here's a stroll down Pocono Memory Lane... ALL the way back to 2013

 

 

Jp

 

How do you always get gigs at the races? What sorcery is this??



#35 maximilian

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 11:53

 

Let's keep the Strolls out of IndyCar, shall we?  Ferrrruccccis are bad enough.   ;)



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Posted 18 August 2018 - 12:06

Sad news ... My friend and Al Jr's ex wife Shelley has died. https://racer.com/20...ley-unser-dies/

 

Very sorry to hear that, must've been well before her time. When I saw the news I thought a few of our regulars might've known her personally. Condolences. :|



#37 Risil

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 12:11

And thanks for the great OP, PaYR! Interesting to see how the race pans out with the new kit. Pocono has always raced differently to Indy but like in May I expect that the shape of the race will depend on whether we get a long stretch of green or not.



#38 Risil

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 12:19

So nice to see how many of us are still around five years after 2013. But I'm always surprised that some people who were Indycar thread regulars have disappeared. Hasn't Indycar gotten better and better and more entertaining each year?  We're getting a WDC next year for chrissakes! In 2013 we were lucky to get Aleshin in a basket!  The future is rosy!

 

We're like a pub with the usual mix of regulars, semi-regulars and tourists. Some people seem to never leave, some move on in their lives, some find other things to do with their Sunday evenings, some get tired of the loudmouths at the bar making jokes about Russian literature. Also you have to bring your own beer.

 

But I do have a shrine where a candle is always lit for the Return Of Stonefeld.



#39 B Squared

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 13:11

The weather is looking cooperative for the race:

https://weather.com/...l/USPA0935:1:US

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 13:14

Let's keep the Strolls out of IndyCar, shall we?  Ferrrruccccis are bad enough.   ;)

 

 

And there I was wondering if there was ever going to be a time when Rahal wasn't my least favourite Indycar driver...



#41 B Squared

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 13:17

Shelley Unser's obituary from the Albuquerque Journal:

https://www.abqjourn...dies-at-59.html

#42 LeClerc

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 14:08

And there I was wondering if there was ever going to be a time when Rahal wasn't my least favourite Indycar driver...


I just picked him. How bow dah?

I have a feeling my disastrous season will continue like it started...

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 14:16

I just picked him. How bow dah?

I have a feeling my disastrous season will continue like it started...

So... Ed Jones will have a good race?



#44 LeClerc

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 14:22

So... Ed Jones will have a good race?


No LeClerc jinx on him. He is squeaky clean. Pick him! You know you want to!

https://youtu.be/aGdPwWvXgXM

#45 maximilian

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 14:26

Making picks without the Tarot reading is really difficult...  :eek:



#46 ANF

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 14:54

Practice should have started 25 minutes ago, but livetiming says, RAIN DELAY.

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 15:02


LIVE NOW

#48 Risil

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 16:47

Zach Veach quickest so far? I'll take that.



#49 jonpollak

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 16:49

The weather is looking cooperative for the race:

https://weather.com/...l/USPA0935:1:US

 


My weather app says rain tomorrow?!?!

#50 Pete_f1

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 17:15

So, is that 19:05 start in the UK and approximately 21:30 end?