
Introduction of safety cars to European racing
#1
Posted 10 October 2018 - 08:47
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#2
Posted 10 October 2018 - 08:56
I seem to remember from a review video that the Safety Car concept was introduced at Le Mans in about 1980 or 1981 (though I guess a pace car for the formation lap must have come in when they moved to the rolling start in '71); not sure when it saw wider use in the WSPC, but from season review videos I do remember races around 1985-86 being neutralized.
#3
Posted 10 October 2018 - 10:34
First trialled in Austria 1973, first used in a race situation in Canada, the cars were simply not fast enough to allow the race cars to travel fast enough to cool the engines. It had been marginal in Canada, and the ambient temperature was very low.
Monaco had used the Countach and I recall a Renault 5 Turbo 2, which was crashed.
#4
Posted 10 October 2018 - 17:29
#5
Posted 10 October 2018 - 19:49
Silverstone also had a few different Safety Cars back in old days and during the 1990s.
This topic is definately very interesting or could be as a one indeed!
At Silverstone in 1992-1993 they used a Ford Escort RS Cosworth as a Safety Car with Mark Goddard behind the wheel and for the following thing I'm not so sure, but...
In the years of 1994-1996 they used Renault Alpine A610 Turbo Special for the 1994 race and Renault Clio Maxi or Renault Safrane BiTurbo Baccara for the years of 1995-1996, but who was the Safety Car Driver during the British Grand Prix those years?
I have heard that sadly late Steve Bell may have been the driver at least some of those (If not all of them?) occasions and from the 1997 British Grand Prix onwards, Safety Car Driver were Oliver Gavin.
#6
Posted 10 October 2018 - 20:06
IIRC what was then known as a 'Pace Car' was introduced in the U.K. for the Indy car races at Silverstone and Brands in 1978
In both 1938 and 1939 the JCC International Trophy at Brooklands employed a rolling start, the cars being driven by John Cobb. In 1938 he drove Jack Barclay's 4½ litre Bentley drophead coupé, with the starting signal being given by John Morgan, Secretary of the JCC. The following year he was at the wheel of his newly-acquired V12 Lagonda, with George Eyston waving the flag.
#7
Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:37

FWIW, a "Pace Car" is not the same as a "Safety Car"! When International Formula 3 (or, to be more precise, Formula III) was introduced in 1950, "flying" (i.e. paced) starts were specified, which were for some time refered to as "F 3/III (style) starts" as a consequence. Many reports and pictures exist, but once the novelty wore off those ceased to appear, and it's not entirely clear when that practice stopped. It would be interesting to find out.
Pace Cars in general never interfered with races once they were underway, hence the Safety Car. It's true that after that trial run in 1973, it was virtually extinct - many thanks to Steve for that very plausable explanation. However, when did it actually reappear? It was about the time I lost interest in the sport, so my memory is a bit fuzzy about it - can someone help?
#8
Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:46
Monaco had used the Countach and I recall a Renault 5 Turbo 2, which was crashed.
Crikey -- the Countach sounds like something suggested by a teenage boy. I have huge respect for anyone who got around the Monaco circuit at any speed in one of those. And almost as much respect for the driver of a Renault 5 Turbo 2.
Assuming an incident lasts for 5 laps or 12 miles, what average speed must a safety car maintain for a 3 litre F1 car to keep cool? Perhaps somebody who has been involved in running demonstrations on public roads has thoughts?
#9
Posted 18 October 2018 - 22:43
#10
Posted 19 October 2018 - 15:20
I've found photo of the Silversone Alpines.
From https://www.renaulta...opic.php?t=8807
Edited by bartez1000, 19 October 2018 - 15:21.