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#1 pkonsti

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 02:59

The official program covers of the Austrian GP's so far:
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#2 MasterOfCoin

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:06

Wow a thread not trying to make F1 great again.....nice.... :clap:



#3 sportyskells

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 06:43

And also a track that has no chicanes in its layout, a tight turn 1 (might be action there with both the F3 & F2s, also a race weekend for them) plus something that Lewis Hamilton likes on this race track Gravel traps. So the only penalty talk this race might be due to a tangle and not because of track limits



#4 klyster

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 07:37

Last years race was full of drama.

Maybe there'll be some this year as well?



#5 TomNokoe

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 07:39

Setting off for Graz tomorrow morning :up:

#6 statman

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 07:56

After the eighth success of Mercedes in 8 Grand Prix races in this 2019 Formula 1 season that took place in France, the eyes are on the next Austrian Grand Prix. Toto Wolff team principal of the German team, despite his team dominating the championship, remains cautious. The Austrian fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari. "Le Castellet, like Barcelona, ​​is a favorable circuit for our car. All these curves favor our single-seater but in Austria it will be totally different ”.
 
Toto Wolff fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari
 
:D 
 
 

Edited by statman, 25 June 2019 - 08:00.


#7 JeePee

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 07:57

:rotfl:



#8 Stallknecht

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 08:00

Driving to Graz tomorrow morning 5AM. Will be seated at the end of the Start / Finish straight all weekend. Really looking forward to my first time at the Red Bull Ring. Any good suggestions or tips?



#9 Fatgadget

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 08:00

9 on the trot..Get in there Mercedes and eclipse MacLaren's 1988 tally!



#10 JeePee

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 08:01

And also a track that has no chicanes in its layout, a tight turn 1 (might be action there with both the F3 & F2s, also a race weekend for them) plus something that Lewis Hamilton likes on this race track Gravel traps. So the only penalty talk this race might be due to a tangle and not because of track limits

Hate to burst your bubble... but their is more tarmac than gravel here. I believe this track started it all around 2002 even.

 

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2003 race start: https://youtu.be/WrgAiHP6l7g?t=1592


Edited by JeePee, 25 June 2019 - 08:04.


#11 OO7

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 08:02

 

After the eighth success of Mercedes in 8 Grand Prix races in this 2019 Formula 1 season that took place in France, the eyes are on the next Austrian Grand Prix. Toto Wolff team principal of the German team, despite his team dominating the championship, remains cautious. The Austrian fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari. "Le Castellet, like Barcelona, ​​is a favorable circuit for our car. All these curves favor our single-seater but in Austria it will be totally different ”.
 
Toto Wolff fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari
 
:D 

 

On this occasion you've got to give Toto some leeway, given the straights of Bahrain, Canada and possibly Baku suited the Ferrari.



#12 hodgy21

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 08:11

On this occasion you've got to give Toto some leeway, given the straights of Bahrain, Canada and possibly Baku suited the Ferrari.


You’d like to think so wouldn’t you. I’m sure it won’t stop them though.

#13 Jovanotti

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 08:59


After the eighth success of Mercedes in 8 Grand Prix races in this 2019 Formula 1 season that took place in France, the eyes are on the next Austrian Grand Prix. Toto Wolff team principal of the German team, despite his team dominating the championship, remains cautious. The Austrian fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari. "Le Castellet, like Barcelona, ​​is a favorable circuit for our car. All these curves favor our single-seater but in Austria it will be totally different ”.

Toto Wolff fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari

:D


https://mbenz.it/mer...favorita/11940/

Shut up already.

#14 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:02

After the eighth success of Mercedes in 8 Grand Prix races in this 2019 Formula 1 season that took place in France, the eyes are on the next Austrian Grand Prix. Toto Wolff team principal of the German team, despite his team dominating the championship, remains cautious. The Austrian fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari. "Le Castellet, like Barcelona, ​​is a favorable circuit for our car. All these curves favor our single-seater but in Austria it will be totally different ”.

Toto Wolff fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari

:D


https://mbenz.it/mer...favorita/11940/

He CANNOT believe that people even bother finish reading these kind of comments anymore, surely?!

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 25 June 2019 - 09:03.


#15 Nonesuch

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:03

"Le Castellet, like Barcelona, ​​is a favorable circuit for our car. All these curves favor our single-seater but in Austria it will be totally different ”.
 
Toto Wolff


Totally different, so... P19 and P20?

 

No? Guess not that different.
 
Oh well, let's buy into the hype.
 
FIRST WIN FOR LECLERC. :cool:



#16 Nonesuch

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:04

By the way, that 1984 poster is some proper 80s artwork.

 

JETS! :up:

 

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#17 Ivanhoe

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:10

Will be attending the race weekend, me and my brother take the old man as a present for his 75th birthday, 39 years after he took us to Zandvoort for our first GP. He is still a frequent visitor of historic races and never saw/heard these hybrid V6T, so I hope he'll appreciate the gesture :p

 

Anyway, the weather looks to be good, staying in Graz from friday till Monday, rental car for transport to the track and a 3 corner ticket for the weekend, with seats on Steiermark on Sunday, sure we'll have a good time either way :up:



#18 Marklar

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:19

Track should suit Ferrari nearly as good as Montreal and it's one - if not the - weakest track for Hamilton. Perhaps we'll get the result the majority wants ;)

#19 Astandahl

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:20

1-2 Mercedes easily. They should do it even with Bottas


Edited by Astandahl, 25 June 2019 - 09:23.


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#20 jonpollak

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:27

Will be attending the race weekend, me and my brother take the old man as a present for his 75th birthday, 39 years after he took us to Zandvoort for our first GP. He is still a frequent visitor of historic races and never saw/heard these hybrid V6T, so I hope he'll appreciate the gesture :p

Anyway, the weather looks to be good, staying in Graz from friday till Monday, rental car for transport to the track and a 3 corner ticket for the weekend, with seats on Steiermark on Sunday, sure we'll have a good time either way :up:


Well done Ivanhoe... as an old man I approve this initiative.
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#21 TomNokoe

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:44

F1 has a habit of producing thrillers immediately after massive fan outcry (Australia 2010, Bahrain 2014). I have a few friends who swear blind that strings are being pulled behind the scenes, WWE style... yeah right.

Hoping the altitude doesn't hamper Ferrari's challenge. Looking scorchio again, and always the outside chance of a shower.

Shorter lap will be interesting in quali. I think Red Bull will again be vulnerable to the midfield. Hopefully Mercedes don't dominate the final sector.



#22 Kalmake

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:45

Hasn't been a good track for Hamilton with 1 win and 1 pole out of 5. Bottas has 1 win and 2 poles out of 2 with Merc.

 

Mercedes 4/5. Last year both cars broke down.

 

I don't think Ferrari will be as strong as Canada. There are more longer corners.



#23 TomNokoe

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:47

Mercedes 4/5. Last year both cars broke down.

Toto Wolff spoke post-France of a few cooling issues, echoed in Mark Hughes' race report.

 

Altitude, scorchio, maybe this is the Mercedes weakness, as seen last year.

 

It will probably rain now, lol.



#24 Baddoer

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:51

Won't rule off McLaren podium here



#25 MrMonaco

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:56

Won't rule off McLaren podium here

I wish I had your degree of optimism towards life   ;)



#26 JeePee

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:00

Won't rule off McLaren podium here

Then there has to happen something to the top 4.

 

I can see them beating Verstappen on saterday, but not on sunday.



#27 Arundo

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:00

Looking forward to this one but will probably still be a Mercedes 1 - 2, hope Ferrari can challenge, doubt Redbull can. 



#28 Jon83

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:03

Hate to burst your bubble... but their is more tarmac than gravel here. I believe this track started it all around 2002 even.

 

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2003 race start: https://youtu.be/WrgAiHP6l7g?t=1592

Feels slightly kinder on the eyes than the last one though.



#29 Jon83

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:04

Won't rule off McLaren podium here

 

5 and a half years since their last one.

 

Unimaginable, ten years ago!


Edited by Jon83, 25 June 2019 - 10:28.


#30 Laster

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:21

Looks like it’s going to rain there....on Monday. :/

#31 Pimpwerx

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:25

I fully expect a Ferrari walk at this track. This and Monza I think are simply too much with the Ferrari MGU-H. Not many opportunities for them this year, but this one is prime.



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:26

F1 has a habit of producing thrillers immediately after massive fan outcry (Australia 2010, Bahrain 2014). I have a few friends who swear blind that strings are being pulled behind the scenes, WWE style... yeah right.

Hoping the altitude doesn't hamper Ferrari's challenge. Looking scorchio again, and always the outside chance of a shower.

Shorter lap will be interesting in quali. I think Red Bull will again be vulnerable to the midfield. Hopefully Mercedes don't dominate the final sector.

 

Canada 2019 outcry produced France 2019... don't get your hopes up.

 

Toto Wolff spoke post-France of a few cooling issues, echoed in Mark Hughes' race report.

 

Altitude, scorchio, maybe this is the Mercedes weakness, as seen last year.

 

It will probably rain now, lol.

 

Yeah, so they only run half a second a lap faster now. 

 

No rain, Europe is melting this week.



#33 SonGoku

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:26

Hamilton's weakest track and long straight galore for the Ferrari engine. If they don't beat him here it won't happen soon again.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:30

Looks like it’s going to rain there....on Monday. :/

Was apparently raining last Sunday too, as it was in Monaco, as it was in Canada...I've given up, it'll never rain again on race day.

36.

Edited by JonnyJ, 25 June 2019 - 10:33.


#35 SilverArrow31

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:51

If Hamilton wins this, good bet he is going to break Vettel's 9 in a row, this is the only difficult one I see for him. I just hope that the media doesn't lap it up and go all Bottas 2.0 again if Bottas does win on Sunday.

 

Edit: Also just watched the 2018 highlights and its reminded me how so many people where saying race over when Mercedes led 1-2 and then look what happened!.... I doubt it will happen this time.


Edited by SilverArrow31, 25 June 2019 - 11:06.


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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:23

Hamilton's weakest track and long straight galore for the Ferrari engine. If they don't beat him here it won't happen soon again.

 

There are enough places for Vettel to spin and Leclerc to mess up his suspension in Q.



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:30

Maybe Red Bull will get a secret set of indestructible super fast tyres for race day, spice it up a bit !  



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:32

Got a feeling, might not be Mercedes' weekend, not saying they wont be competitive pace-wise, but my unscientific gut feeling says Hamilton retires from the race, Bottas has a coming together with Vettel and either Verstappen or Lecelrc take the win :drunk:



#39 Retrofly

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:33

If Ferrari don't win this one they are in deep deep trouble.



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#40 JeePee

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:35

If Ferrari don't win this one they are in deep deep trouble.

And if they do they aren't?



#41 Retrofly

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:39

And if they do they aren't?

Only deep trouble.



#42 krapmeister

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:39

Maybe Red Bull will get a secret set of indestructible super fast tyres for race day, spice it up a bit !


Why? Is it Dietrich Mateschitz's birthday or something?

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:43

Hasn't been a good track for Hamilton with 1 win and 1 pole out of 5. Bottas has 1 win and 2 poles out of 2 with Merc.

 

Mercedes 4/5. Last year both cars broke down.

 

I don't think Ferrari will be as strong as Canada. There are more longer corners.

Actually 1 win and 2 poles (2015, 2016). But yeah, not one of his strongest circuits. My money is still on him winning it this time around.



#44 Hela

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:44

If Ferrari don't win this one they are in deep deep trouble.

 

 I think Ferrari have the chance here as well as Silverstone, Spa and Monza



#45 AnR

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:45

Only deep trouble.

 

like a second off Merc race pace with these tyres?

nothing new, so are all other teams...



#46 OO7

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 13:15

Only deep trouble.

:lol:



#47 sportyskells

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 13:40

At least we know why we have tarmac run off on this track. We had turn 1 issues and turn 3 issues here before. at least that runoff is on the outside and not inside.



#48 JHSingo

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 14:27

 

After the eighth success of Mercedes in 8 Grand Prix races in this 2019 Formula 1 season that took place in France, the eyes are on the next Austrian Grand Prix. Toto Wolff team principal of the German team, despite his team dominating the championship, remains cautious. The Austrian fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari. "Le Castellet, like Barcelona, ​​is a favorable circuit for our car. All these curves favor our single-seater but in Austria it will be totally different ”.
 
Toto Wolff fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari
 
:D 
 
 

 

 

Any quote from Toto Wolff just comes across as the rantings of a man increasingly detached from reality.



#49 Astandahl

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 14:34

 

After the eighth success of Mercedes in 8 Grand Prix races in this 2019 Formula 1 season that took place in France, the eyes are on the next Austrian Grand Prix. Toto Wolff team principal of the German team, despite his team dominating the championship, remains cautious. The Austrian fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari. "Le Castellet, like Barcelona, ​​is a favorable circuit for our car. All these curves favor our single-seater but in Austria it will be totally different ”.
 
Toto Wolff fears that the characteristics of the track of the next Grand Prix will favor Ferrari
 
:D 
 
 

 

Woto Tolff still bullshitting like a mad man.



#50 monolulu

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 14:39

Any quote from Toto Wolff just comes across as the rantings of a man increasingly detached from reality.


I think it’s just his paranoia that keeps him focused on doing a brilliant job!