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The Triple Crown
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, Aug 09 2019 21:25
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Posted 08 November 2022 - 12:51
Of course it goes without saying that the most important Triple Crown of them all is the Australian one.
The Fosters Cup (a figment of my imagination after a few too many Friday frothies) is awarded to the winner of the AGP, Gold Star Oz Drivers Championship and of course that vulgar Maxi-Taxi bash, the Bathurst 1000.
It’s never been awarded actually, quite a few blokes have two bites of the cherry but no-one has all three; Lex Davison, Stan Jones, Alec Mildren, Frank Matich, Kevin Bartlett, John Goss, Max Stewart, John Walker, John Bowe, Graham McRae, Mark Skaife, Jason Bright and Rick Kelly are the ones which spring to mind.
The featured cars are Kevin Bartlett’s Brabham BT23D Alfa in 1968, and Ford Falcon GT Coupe in 1975, both at Bathurst. KB won the Gold Star in 1968-69, and Bathurst 1000 with John Goss in 1975, he led an AGP too, but in the words of the great Maxwell Smart, Missed-By-That-Much…
Edited by MarkBisset, 08 November 2022 - 13:09.
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Posted 08 November 2022 - 21:36
My turn in pedant's corner . Goss/Bartlett won Bathurst in 1974.
Of course it goes without saying that the most important Triple Crown of them all is the Australian one.
The Fosters Cup (a figment of my imagination after a few too many Friday frothies) is awarded to the winner of the AGP, Gold Star Oz Drivers Championship and of course that vulgar Maxi-Taxi bash, the Bathurst 1000.
It’s never been awarded actually, quite a few blokes have two bites of the cherry but no-one has all three; Lex Davison, Stan Jones, Alec Mildren, Frank Matich, Kevin Bartlett, John Goss, Max Stewart, John Walker, John Bowe, Graham McRae, Mark Skaife, Jason Bright and Rick Kelly are the ones which spring to mind.
The featured cars are Kevin Bartlett’s Brabham BT23D Alfa in 1968, and Ford Falcon GT Coupe in 1975, both at Bathurst. KB won the Gold Star in 1968-69, and Bathurst 1000 with John Goss in 1975, he led an AGP too, but in the words of the great Maxwell Smart, Missed-By-That-Much…
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Posted 08 November 2022 - 22:25
ha, ha,
well done Librules, I'm not even interested enuff to check!
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Posted 08 November 2022 - 22:48
And so the AGP and Bathurst double wins no accolades for Gossy?
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Posted 09 November 2022 - 00:06
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read the original post #102
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Posted 09 November 2022 - 10:28
Apologies, Mark...
I had read that too.
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Posted 04 March 2023 - 14:17
Recently I was busy with the Michel Vaillant Graphic novels another time.
This is probably only to follow for people with knowledge of these albums, regrettably they are not available in English except for the very first edition.
Anyway, within the world of Michel Vaillant, Graham Hill would not have been the first winner of neither version of the "Triple Crown" as they are defined.
Michel's buddy Steve Warson would have been the first ever to win the crown that consists of Indy, Le Mans, and the WDC title.
Steve has won Indianapolis even before the very first adventure that was drawn in 1957, he won Le Mans in an adventure taking place in about 1961 and becomes World champion in an adventure that I have traced back as taking place in most likely 1964.
If it isn't the WDC title that needs to be won but the Monaco GP, then that crown was won even way earlier by Michel.
He won both Indianapolis and Le Mans in the very first album drawn in 1957 and in the next album, drawn in 1958 or 1959 he wins the Monaco Grand Prix.
Just for fun....
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Posted 04 March 2023 - 15:27
Does Jacques Villeneuve have a realistic chance at Le Mans this year?
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Posted 04 March 2023 - 17:32
Does Jacques Villeneuve have a realistic chance at Le Mans this year?
Probably less of a chance than Alonso had at Indy. Very long odds, at best.
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Posted 04 March 2023 - 17:45
Yes probably an outside chance at best.
More intriguing is news of a full factory return by Ferrari with the 499P Hypercar. Could an outright win be possible 58 years after the last one?
https://www.motorspo...-499p/10392385/
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Posted 04 March 2023 - 18:32
Yes probably an outside chance at best.
More intriguing is news of a full factory return by Ferrari with the 499P Hypercar. Could an outright win be possible 58 years after the last one?
Not exactly news, unless I missed something in there. The ByKolles also looks like it may end up being something other than a Vanwall.
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Posted 06 March 2023 - 13:21
It is not a human but I do know at least one piece of equipment or company that could say or be said of that they had won the Triple Crown.
"The Cosworth DFV engine.
"Multiple winner of both F1 world championships and Indy 500 and also two Le Mans victories. OK, the Indy engine was slightly reduced in capacity and turbo charged.
"In fact, in 1980 the Cosworth won all three Triple Crown events. (Alan Jones WDC, Johnny Rutherford Indy 500, Jean Rondeau & Jean-Pierre Jassaud Le Mans)
I think that there are drivers who managed to win two of the three achievements in a single year (Jim Clark 1965 and AJ Foyt 1967 come to mind) but that is the maximum achieved by a driver."
If you expand the criteria to include parent company, then the answer is Ford in 1969....WDC- Jackie Stewart / Matra Ford Cosworth Indy- Mario Andretti / Hawk Turbo Ford LeMans- Jackie Ickx / Ford GT40.
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Posted 06 March 2023 - 17:37
To wander further off topic: In the fifties the ACO considered the Index of Performance winner was the true winner of the GP d'Endurance (could it be because French tiddlers usually won?). So, Lotus won the Index in 1957, Monaco in 1960 (or the Manufacturers' World Championship in 1963), and Indianapolis in 1965. A manufacturers' triple crown no less!
Edited by D-Type, 06 March 2023 - 17:39.
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Posted 06 March 2023 - 20:54
If I’m not mistaken, McLaren are the only constructor to win the triple crown, both the Monaco and the WDC (or WCD or DWC) variants.
Edited by lustigson, 06 March 2023 - 20:55.
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Posted 06 March 2023 - 21:02
If you expand the criteria to include parent company, then the answer is Ford in 1969....WDC- Jackie Stewart / Matra Ford Cosworth Indy- Mario Andretti / Hawk Turbo Ford LeMans- Jackie Ickx / Ford GT40.
Mmm, but Ford is not Cosworth's parent company, or at least it wasn't in 1969.
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Posted 06 March 2023 - 21:05
To wander further off topic: In the fifties the ACO considered the Index of Performance winner was the true winner of the GP d'Endurance (could it be because French tiddlers usually won?). So, Lotus won the Index in 1957, Monaco in 1960 (or the Manufacturers' World Championship in 1963), and Indianapolis in 1965. A manufacturers' triple crown no less!
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Really intersting 
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Posted 06 March 2023 - 21:08
If I’m not mistaken, McLaren are the only constructor to win the triple crown, both the Monaco and the WDC (or WCD or DWC) variants.
Mercedes also has won all triple crown events as a constructor.
The Indianapolis 500 in 1915 with Ralph DePalma
The Monaco Grand Prix and the DWC on numerous occasions...
And the 24 hours of Le Mans in 1952 with Hermann Lang and Fritz Riess
