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[Risil]

I haven't seen it yet but I want to talk about it.

[PayasYouRace]

Seb recreating Turkey 2010.

[Vielleicht]

Snap verdict from me is Vettel’s fault. He was given more than enough room by Leclerc

[Kev00]

I’ve never seen such small contact lead to such a big mess.

[anyeis]

Another Vettel meltdown

[Dalton007]

Vettel at fault. What a careless move.

[registered]

Turkey 2010 p2

[Acathla]

Have to re-watch, but I'd say 100% Vettel

[Disgrace]

Obviously Vettel. His attempts to bully other drivers in wheel-to-wheel situations always seem to rebound, and he just doesn't learn. He moved a car's width towards Leclerc who didn't.

[Junky]

Turkey 2010 take two.

 

Vettel has not the mental strength to fight wheel to wheel.

[Myrvold]

Poll please!

[Okyo]

Could have made it stick if kept it straight, but for some reason moved in to Leclerc. WHY SEB?

[F1 Mike]

Vettel should be sacked 😂

[Massa]

Could have made it stick if kept it straight, but for some reason moved in to Leclerc. WHY SEB?

Anger

He was surprised by Leclerc fantastic overtake.

It was pure road rage once again

[Claudius]

Seb is a danger on track! 

Silly to think a 4wdc to lack spatial awarness but there you go.

Sack him ffs.

[tourister46a]

100% Vettel fault. Karma to Leclerc for swiping Bottas at Hungary? 

[pit5bul]

Vettel should be sacked

 

really, sack him for such a small mistake ? Biased much ?

[AlexS]

The movement and contact was relatively small but with huge consequences.

[Acathla]

really, sack him for such a small mistake ? Biased much ?

 

One of the many mistakes. 

[Disgrace]

Well, Vettel needs to tread carefully now. He isn't the future, Leclerc is. He isn't going to win the political game.

[derstatic]

I don't think it's that obvious. No reason for Vettel to squeeze Lec to the inside, but it's Leclerc who has the better view of what's happening. They are both 50% idiots in this imo. 

[AlexS]

I don't think it's that obvious. No reason for Vettel to squeeze Lec to the inside, but it's Leclerc who has the better view of what's happening. They are both 50% idiots in this imo. 

How is that even possible...

[Blackoutjulian]

I would say more Vettels fault then Leclerc

[Tosh]

No need for Vettel to go left. All his fault.

[Massa]

I don't think it's that obvious. No reason for Vettel to squeeze Lec to the inside, but it's Leclerc who has the better view of what's happening. They are both 50% idiots in this imo.

Lol

[Myrvold]

I don't think it's that obvious. No reason for Vettel to squeeze Lec to the inside, but it's Leclerc who has the better view of what's happening. They are both 50% idiots in this imo. 

 

When you are going so close together side by side, then you start to go towards the other car, what do you expect? He didn't learn from Turkey in 2010 at all.

[Massa]

Turkey 2010
Singapore 2017

[Tsarwash]

Need to see some replays to be honest. It looks like Vettel's fault, but it is marginal. Unlucky for such small contact to cause so much damage. 

[F1 Mike]

really, sack him for such a small mistake ? Biased much ?

I have no bias, i just think he's past his best and making far too many mistakes for a top team

[ebc]

Nobody's fault, such small contact shouldn't break the car, we see contact all the time between cars and nothing happens, this was just a freak incident.

[Claudius]

really, sack him for such a small mistake ? Biased much ?

 

It was his 87th "small" mistake. 

[Topsu]

Webber to Leclerc:

 

[djparky]

Racing incident, but the golden rule is dont crash into your team mate!!

[CL16]

Can Vettel not drive in a straight line?

[SB]

really, sack him for such a small mistake ? Biased much ?

 

How many "smaill mistake" like this in these two seasons ?

[Okyo]

When you're wheel to wheel, half a meter apart, you dont f***ing move to your competitor on a darn straight.

Edited by Okyo, 17 November 2019 - 19:00.

[Spillage]

Vettel's fault. Turkey 2010 redux. Alas, he didn't learn from that and I doubt he'll learn from this either.

[Topsu]

How is the penalty point tally looking for Vettel?

[GoldenColt]

Reminded me of Turkey 2010. Vettel turning into his teammate.

 

[Disgrace]

This isn't to defend Vettel but remember Leclerc pulling a similar swipe at Norris in the early laps? Perez did it in Singapore last year too, IIRC. They're all at it - horrible driving.

[CSF]

Morons both. Leclerc's initial squeeze was ridiculous, Vettel then moves.. why. 

 

However if there was any justice Leclerc would have been out on lap 1, what he did to Norris was far far far worse and only Norris somehow spotting it avoided a big crash. 

[Myrvold]

Nobody's fault, such small contact shouldn't break the car, we see contact all the time between cars and nothing happens, this was just a freak incident.

 

It's not the consequence of the incident that is penalized, it is the actual incident.

It's a freaking dangerous move.

[screamingV16]

Lewis is driving like mad man the last two laps and Vettel gets the flag for race incident in close racing, this was nothing like Turkey 2011, here minor contact with horrible consequences. 

 

No it wasn't, but it was very much like Turkey 2010

[noikeee]

50/50 in my book. It can happen when both drivers are trying to minimize the space they're giving to the other guy, then all it takes is the slightest trajectory deviation... which bears the question of why the **** are they both doing this to their team-mate.

[Marklar]

Vettels fault, but the crime was much smaller than the consequences. No penalty for me.

[FLB]

What amazes me is how the hell such as a light contact cause so much damage?

[Albertino]

LEc drove towards the middle of the road, VET pulled up alongside and veered into him. If LEC maintains trajectory, which he did, I don't see how he could be at fault.  

 

Imagine being in your lane on the highway and the guy passing you scrapes your door. The guy behind has the best view, Vettel is 100% at fault here. 

 

No penalty, not finishing is bad enough. Small mistake huge consequences.

Edited by Albertino, 17 November 2019 - 19:02.

[SophieB]

 Few posts removed. Not every thread has to be about Hamilton instead, and indeed when he’s not involved at all, it’s just derailing.

[Unicast]

It was a freak raceing incident... We were just unlucky that both our drivers were out of the race.

It was but a minor touch... I think vettel was looking for a bit more room in expectation for the incoming corner and Leclerc didn't move.

Edited by Unicast, 17 November 2019 - 19:05.

[JeePee]

Vettel and Leclerc are the real Crashtappens. But what Marklar says is true.